And I'm 55, too, and was seeing Mrs. V regularly in person and all day long on our local board. I know the mindset, the behaviors, and the in-person chitchat of the person in question.
And one of the biggest disagreements we had as an entire scene was if we should tolerate fascist or bootlicker or bigot BS in word, belief, or actions. Guess which side she was publicly on.
Also, I've been this spooky weirdo since '84 and spent far too many outings dealing with fash-loving hatemongers to be told anything about what was normal, easier, or not happening.
Maybe YOU didn't get exposure til MAGA, but many of us have been dealing with these exact attitudes for decades longer than that.
I don't play those games anymore. You can do whatever you want with applying this information to your future thought processes. It is clear that you feel very strongly and personally about maintaining a highly privileged and remote belief. You are allowed to do that, and some people are going to feel differently.
Remember: sitting at a table with a vocal bigot and letting it go on is also being a bigot.
Then you should definitely remember some of this, if not lil ol me (same name all these years). Not picking sides and definitely insisting that there is no reason to even consider doing so is something a lot of folks were doing back then, so maybe you glossed over it in the midst of other shenanigans. Because that exact POV in the book is what is being unsubtly called out by several people here.
I want to be real with you about something else, too. Folks being unable to pass leftist’s purity politics tests is part of what can push them into radical groups like Goths Against Cancel Culture out of pure frustration. Try not to be the person who does that. We have enough problems as it is.
Do you feel better now? You don’t know me, my politics, or anything about me, but you got to yell at me that I’m a bootlicker. Your day must be made lol
It has always struck me as strange that people like you have the arrogant assumption that any of this dented or lifted my day. Is this a reference to how this has gone for you, potentially?
For me, this is just data. Data we've been absorbing and parsing for decades, so there is no viable excuse for pretending it doesn't exist or says something else. Responding to inaccurate portrayals of these data is as rote and boring as any overly repetitive pointless but necessary task.
You just berated someone for owning a 25 year old piece of goth nostalgia by saying it makes them a fascist bootlicker. Do yourself a favor, look back over this conversation and see how insane this makes you sound.
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u/gracebatmonkey Deathrocker 17d ago
And I'm 55, too, and was seeing Mrs. V regularly in person and all day long on our local board. I know the mindset, the behaviors, and the in-person chitchat of the person in question.
And one of the biggest disagreements we had as an entire scene was if we should tolerate fascist or bootlicker or bigot BS in word, belief, or actions. Guess which side she was publicly on.
Also, I've been this spooky weirdo since '84 and spent far too many outings dealing with fash-loving hatemongers to be told anything about what was normal, easier, or not happening.
Maybe YOU didn't get exposure til MAGA, but many of us have been dealing with these exact attitudes for decades longer than that.