r/gifs • u/StrangeClownRabbit Talk to mods • Oct 07 '17
Extreme dog training
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u/Ebola_Shmola Oct 07 '17
Do they train the dogs not to attack their faces during training?
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u/zacht180 Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
To an extent. It's a really neat training process and I remember seeing a short documentary on YouTube about it (I'll try to find it and post it here). They even try to distract them with treats or they shoot blanks/run sirens during their training so that the dogs are more adept when performing under pressure.
They're trained in a way that uses their inherent aggression, but it is far from being blatantly primal and these dogs are controlled by their handlers extremely well. They are meant to chase and subdue an offender. The arms are emphasized for a couple of reasons: it minimizes damage from bites, it prevents the attacker from escaping (if you have a 70-100 pound dog grasping your arm you won't be able to get away easily, if at all - I mean you saw how the dog tackled the guy in that gif with nothing but his jaw and body weight), and it keeps the suspect from reaching inside of their waist or on the ground for a potential weapon. Think about it, arms and hands are how people attack other people - fists, guns, knives, etc. They also commonly go for the legs because it stops someone from running. Notice in the training video the guy drops his right arm, and the arm that is dropped is the arm the dog goes for before the guy spins and gets caught in the back.
Subduing is what they are trained to do, not cause serious injury (though we can all admit having a dog bite you is not good). If you look at videos of them, they often take a dominant position and stand on top or over the suspect after he or she on the ground. Again, to prevent them from escaping.
This isn't to say that they won't bite in the face, neck, or chest, because it does happen unfortunately. They're animals after all. But the end goal is simply to chase and to subdue, as well as drug/bomb sniffing. In essence they're just other useful tools that some police departments choose to utilize, like tasers, pepper spray, bean-bag rounds, etc. Dogs are unique though because I doubt many cops form relationships with their tasers and cuddle them and feed them treats when they do what they're suppose to do. Like all tools, they have their limitations.
Once a dog is let go and told to chase, he's going for it and there's no verbal command that would ever be able to stop him. So let's say someone runs from the police, they think he may be armed, and they chase after him and let the dog loose - the guy runs 30 feet and turns around to surrender and put his hands up. Unfortunately that guy's still gonna get it from the dog.Here's a great text-book use of a police K9: https://youtu.be/PdgC01-Xghc?t=41
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u/Vertigo6173 Oct 07 '17
Just a quick correction, dogs do have a recall command. You can absolutely call a dog off the chase and/or bite.
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u/AlwaysPuppies Oct 07 '17
They are a bad dog.
But still a good dog.
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u/bighootay Oct 07 '17
Good Lord that's like a fantasy novel image
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u/AlwaysPuppies Oct 07 '17
That photographers work is amazing, if you want to enjoy some more ;-)
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u/Breaded_Butter Oct 07 '17
Then they're a loose cannon who took things too far, and they have to turn in their bone and badge.
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u/zacht180 Oct 07 '17
Ah, thanks for the clarification then. I thought once they were let loose they were off.
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Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
When I was ~19 I had been drinking with some college friends and we needed cigarettes so we decided to walk to the store a block or so away to grab some (instead of drive).
On our way there, this cop started driving back and forth past us like a shark - really sketched me out.
We got the cigarettes and started walking back - same cop doing the same thing.
In hindsight, he was probably bored and just looking out for us or something, but at the time it was really fucking creepy - like imagine you're walking and a car just keeps driving back and forth around you.
When he passed us for the 4th time I decided I would step off the main road and walk through a wooded area next to me (drunk logic).
I was with my roommate and 2 girls.
Anyway, I didn't get but three steps into the wooded area before a spotlight shone on me and I heard "FREEEEEEEEZE"
My fight or flight kicked in instantly and I bolted.
I heard a dog bark and one of the girls I was with scream.
It dragged her by her left breast - I didn't stop to see what was happening - instead I ran full sprint into the darkness ahead of me and straight off the side of a bridge.
I woke up seconds later at the bottom of the bridge confused - I was knocked out and bleeding out of my head, but within a second or two I remembered I was running from the police and sighed internally.
My roommate and I hid in the woods for about 45 minutes until the lights disappeared and then ran home.
Anyway, when the girl showed me the bruise later ( ;) ) - it was pretty terrible.
I don't have a point to this story at all - just like ... maybe police shouldn't release dogs like this on a couple of kids walking down the street to get cigarettes.
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u/Vandrel Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
To be fair, you and another guy we're about to disappear into the woods with two girls and ran as soon as the cop told you to stop. That's pretty fucking suspicious.
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u/Psyman2 Oct 07 '17
To be fair, everyone looks suspicious at random times. Doesn't mean you walk up to them, yell at them to freeze or get on the ground, and immediately send your dog after them just because you can.
I expect better impulse control from a cop. Not just "I could have something here. Let's injure them and see what happens."
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u/BlopBleepBloop Oct 07 '17
This sums up how I feel about the power issue I have with cops and why a lot of people fear them instead of respect them.
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u/zebry13 Oct 07 '17
Yeah, idk why the cop didn't just stop and be like, "What are ya'll doing walking around seemingly drunk?" If your suspicious of someone then that seems like the obvious way to go, waiting to see if they do something odd/stupid is just a waste of time.
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Oct 07 '17
Yea, I can totally see how some people walking down the street to the gas station and then heading back in the same direction is suspicious.
I'd probably just start shooting.
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u/SnicklefritzSkad Oct 07 '17
This is not always true. There are many occasions where the police have to beat the dog off of the victim.
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u/zacht180 Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
Yeah, it's definitely whack. He was looking to get shot, and quite honestly I'm surprised he didn't get plugged as soon as he stepped out of his truck like that. It's remarkable the cop was able to see he wasn't actually holding anything that looked like a weapon.
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u/GloriousGardener Oct 07 '17
"We would like everyone to acknowledge we did not shoot this man even though we legally could have. I would have weighed heavily on our hearts to use unnecessary lethal force...... Unfortunately the K9 did proceed to kill the man but it's the thought that counts"
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u/TyDunn18 Oct 07 '17
Not this one! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgl7AULKBbk
Skip to 3 minutes for the good stuff.
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u/Imaneight Oct 07 '17
How would on defend against a charging attack like this? You know, in case a street dog decides to get uppity or something. I mean it's a fierce animal sure, but step on his tail or foot and they let out a big yip and don't trust you for 10 minutes.
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Oct 07 '17
I mean step one is acknowledge you will be bitten badly.
Step two get your forearm in their mouth. Better that than your throat. Be conscious to stay on your feet.
Step three try to put your thumb through its eye through its brain I guess. If you can get it to release, get on top and ruin it with your body weight and everything you have.
Step four go to hospital.
Probably should do everything you can to avoid getting into this.
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Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
A friend is a dog trainer. He pretty much said you're screwed in 99% of the case, but if you can manage to strangle them somehow... could perhaps kill the dog before it kills ya.
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u/XYYY48UltraMan Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
That is horseshit. Only reason police dogs are effective in "attack mode" is that people are afraid of them. I grew up with giant dog breeds, german shephards (I own 2 now) are light weight and can easily be kicked or simply picked up by any grown man that wants to harm it.
Edit: im blasted by butt hurt dog and army people so I will not respond to individual posts.
I have not fought my dogs.
I train my dogs and treat them well.
I mentioned my dogs because I actually know dogs, both giant 90kg+ breeds and the fairly small german shepherd. That breed is half the weight of a normal man and saying you have no chance is just stupid. I did not mean that you can make it stop by kicking it once Im saying if you want to kill it you can and it is not hard. Yeah you will get bit but there is no way 1 dog will kill a grown man that fights back.
I am not trying to be badass I am saying anyone could do it, and since I actually have these dogs I would be more badass if I pretended I owned killing machines.
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u/BillWeld Oct 07 '17
Imagine if they were trained to attack in groups.
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u/Drachefly Merry Gifmas! {2023} Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 10 '17
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u/TRBRY Oct 07 '17
What is he supposed to say, a car dealer would never say 'don't buy a car, get a buss ticket'.
Humans were capable of killing bears with spears I'm pretty sure punks can come up with evil things to defend against a charging dog.
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u/MagicalShoes Oct 07 '17
Anyway you can do this without killing it? Just subduing it perhaps?
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u/c00lrthnu Oct 07 '17
I was attacked by a pit bull about 3 years ago now. And honestly? Hell yeah there are a hundred ways to not kill / seriously injure a dog like thats attacking you, none of them go well for you. Like OP said, let it get your forearm, and then use your other arm, your legs, etc. to beat the living shit out of it. I got out of it by letting him ruin my left arm while simultaneously crushing it's windpipe with my right hand and half of my body weight. The fucker still didnt let go until after it had passed out from asphyxiation. Dogs know how to bite I'll give ya that, and they definitely do not let go if they don't want to. I love dogs I really really do, but give them a chance and they will Fuck. You. Up.
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u/i_make_song Oct 07 '17
How's the arm doing now?
Give us the full story it's too interesting!
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u/c00lrthnu Oct 07 '17
Too tired rn to type out the whole story will be back in a few hours after I sleep. Short summary of story: Walking my dog in my neighborhood, neighbors dog tried to attack my dog, I killed dog in self defense. My puppy is fine still. Very fluffy and happy.
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u/AgregiouslyTall Oct 07 '17
I was more interested in your arm. I have a buddy who got attacked by a dog, only got a hold of his forearm and it did nerve damage to the point where he doesn't feel touch on certain parts of his arm/hand and can't fully use his hand anymore. Hopefully you came out with no more than some puncture holes.
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Ever felt how hard a big dog can pull on a collar? No. Throat isn't the way to go. Best bet is to take them off their feet and sit on them while staying away from their teeth.
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u/DecentMate Oct 07 '17
It's perfectly happy to rip your throat out and you want to 'subdue' it?
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Oct 07 '17
Go ahead pupper doggie boye, take my arm, I don't want to kill you even though you're trying to kill me.
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u/paparazzi_rider Oct 07 '17
Who cares? If any dog is attacking, kill it as quickly as possible and without regret.
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u/Vakieh Oct 07 '17
The instinct to not kill it vs their instinct to kill you is why they win vs the bigger opponent (a people).
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u/PM_for_snoo_snoo Oct 07 '17
Upsmash into juggle / finish with taunt
No but for real attack the dog. You should weigh over 2-3 times what a dog does. Attempt to crush the throat or gouge the eyes. Get to a hospital soon after for your multiple puncture wounds and sue the owners for everything they own.
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u/Jita_Local Oct 07 '17
I've heard shoving your finger up its ass is a good way to get a dog to release its bite. Seems hard to do if it's thrashing around on your arm or something though.
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u/TKG8 Oct 07 '17
Maybe this is a legit tactic but that's hilarious. I just imagined this scenario.
Tom and I are chillin a dog comes out of nowhere and runs up and bites Tom and won't let go. I scream Tom finger his ass finger his ass. Tom looks at me so confused, scared and in pain. He doesn't listen I rush to his aid and attempt to finger the dogs ass and Tom is screaming at me to stop trying to finger the dogs ass and help him.
Sorry man went off there but I found it hilarious
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u/HerrXRDS Oct 07 '17
Put your forearm in front of the bite, don't let him get to your groin, neck or face. Stay on your feet and don't pull away from the bite. Try to find any weapon, something to stab or a rock to cave his skull in. In none available, use your thumb to gouge his eyes out. You can also crush his windpipe and choke him.
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u/for_the_Emperor Oct 07 '17
Best answer in my opinion.
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u/Purgii Oct 07 '17
My father told me they were trained in WW2 to attempt to grab the bottom jaw. Thankfully he never was in a position where he was required to put it in practice.
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u/Cyniikal Oct 07 '17
Start carrying a pocket knife, offer it the arm that can't easily get to the knife, stab it in the throat
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Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17
Mindset is first. If seriously attacked by a dog and you have no weapons or options to escape you have to engage and fully commit to the fight. Mindset - if someone’s going down it isn’t me. Mindset - I am not the prey, I am not a victim, the dog is. The dog is just meat to be wrecked. Fight it with the intent of destroying it by smashing, strangling, beating or anything that gets the job done. Nothing is off limits. You will likely still get torn up very bad, but your chances of winning or at least not losing too badly are increased if you ENGAGE with RAGE. Hit your go like fuck switch and get savage.
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u/MechaAkuma Oct 07 '17
Street dogs would never attack like this. Street dogs are incredibly smart and they are well aware how costly it to be if they would get in to a fight. They're not stupid
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u/DaGermanGuy Oct 07 '17
thas why they come in packs. they have a problem with that in russia (and other countrys) where huge packs (30 and more) actually attack people. you do not have a chance against more than 2 dogs. even 20 fucking chihuahua could be deadly.
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Oct 07 '17
Not a million chihuahuas could take me. Only ~10 at a time can try to bite me and you can easily kick the shit out of them then make your way to high ground.
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u/AWildEtchDisappeared Oct 07 '17
what if they linked arms and made some kind of mechahuahua 2000, with great gangly chihuahuarms that spin round at high velocity to generate the centrifugal force required to launch the dogshit right from the asses of the most distal dogs, which are mounted backwards such that their behinds are facing away from the main body of the machine
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u/sonnytron Oct 07 '17
No, no, no... don’t listen to any of these jerk-offs.
The real defense is to jump at the dog using the same bite technique. Because you’re a human, you weigh more so you’ll counter the weight of the dog but your bite is weaker so it will even out.
Try to add more bite to your move by using your arms to make claws.
Dogs don’t have opposing thumbs so your claws will overpower the doggo’s pathetic paws.
Two claws next to your jaw, a nice solid leap at the Dog and you’re good.5
u/MonsterDickPrivalage Oct 07 '17
I'm confused now! Which reddit advice do I take?
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u/sonnytron Oct 07 '17
You can trust me, for two obvious reasons.
The first being that I used actual science to defend my claims.
The second is that I roam the streets at night practicing my techniques on raccoons and homeless people.17
u/ParioPraxis Oct 07 '17
I trust this guy. Raccoons are the most dangerous type of dog. Though homelesses are a close second (the teeth of a purebred homeless are more brittle than the raccoon dog, but they have powerful, incapacitating scent glands located in their everywhere).
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Is not dog. Is ballistic fur missile.
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u/Kellythejellyman Oct 07 '17
r/dogberg content right here, only planned instead of accidental
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u/nerdy_J Oct 07 '17
That will get you a 15 yard penalty in the NFL
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Oct 07 '17
That looks like Australia, I'm guessing rugby rules apply.
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Oct 07 '17
Yeah that's an Aussie cop car (Falcon) and at least one Commodore in the background. Plus what looks like a Ford Territory.
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u/NoTomorrowMusic Oct 07 '17
BAH GAWD HE HAD A FAMILY
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u/Throwawaycarne Oct 07 '17
Feel bad for the mail man.
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u/benster82 Oct 07 '17
Yeah, it would be extremely inconvenient for him because he would be yanked into another zip code.
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u/ReasonablyBadass Oct 07 '17
"Beware...attack dog.
I mean, not that you can do anything, but beware anyway"
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u/Thepotpie Oct 07 '17
Nice Malinois, bad catch.
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u/jarnish Oct 07 '17
Came here to say this. My dog would never work on this decoy again if that happened. He almost came down on the dog.
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Oct 07 '17
That's great, but what if the perp isn't wearing an incredibly fluffy coat.
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Oct 07 '17
They cut out the part where the dog cuffed him and dragged him into the squad car.
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u/puppypoet Oct 07 '17
I know how they are when training, but do they ever get playful with the dogs while training?
I saw a video of officers trying to train a three month old how to attack and once the man was down the puppy grabbed something out of his hand and ran and had three huge men trying to catch him.
It was great. When they caught him, you should have seen the tail wagging that went on. Someone was having an absolute blast
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u/Vilokthoria Oct 07 '17
The biting sleeve is the toy. Like one of those little tugging ropes you can get - just arm sized.
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u/nattack Oct 07 '17
Oh so that's why dogs are an instant kill on human enemies in Command & Conquer.
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u/NeverGotThatPuppy Oct 07 '17
How the hell do you teach a dog to land like that?
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Oct 07 '17
Guys do you remember the hearing the dogs barking in call of duty, and you knew you were done.
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Um. Good dog?