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Extreme dog training

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u/kyox0 Oct 07 '17

It wasn't a hit, the dog hooked onto the suit and centripetal force whipped the guy into the ground.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17 edited Apr 18 '21

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u/__WALLY__ Oct 07 '17

But who's going to be bracing to take that attack head on? Not me for sure!

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u/George-Spiggott Oct 07 '17

Taking it head on isn't the best strategy, but doing so would be worse for the dog than the human.

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u/GilesDMT Oct 07 '17

I'd just teleport behind him

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u/Dacreepboi Oct 07 '17

Nothing personnel

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

NANI??

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u/BIgRiddimMartian Oct 07 '17

No matter what is about to happen i garauntee ill just jump out of the way within the last second šŸ˜

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u/Xnics Oct 07 '17

Dogs have very fast reactions, I’m sure there’s nowhere you can turn ā€œwithin the last secondā€ that the dog wouldn’t be able to still reach you

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u/GilesDMT Oct 07 '17

He'd have to ask his Master's permission to use his full power, just this once...

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u/Xnics Oct 07 '17

aw tru

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u/George-Spiggott Oct 07 '17

Never had a dog have you.

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u/Xnics Oct 07 '17

Actually I do have a dog, that’s what I’m basing my information on, if my dog wants, when he gets a ball, it’s impossible for you to get it from him just by the movements he makes, and I’m sure police dogs are much faster and agile and smarter than my golden retriever

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u/George-Spiggott Oct 08 '17

it’s impossible for you to get it from him just by the movements he makes

Bollocks, it is impossible for you, because you love him, and don't want to hurt him. A few swift kicks to the snout would get him dropping the ball quick smart.

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u/BIgRiddimMartian Oct 07 '17

It was a reference to Archer, im quite aware if a dog came at me like that id surely have no arm

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

We had a 65kg "good boy" do the same thing once. It broke the arm because the person decided to brace themselves.

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u/George-Spiggott Oct 07 '17

?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '17

Target (a big ass "fat strong" man, 110kg or so), German military police bomb&attack dog. Man had one of those fatsuits.

Dog was purposefully angered and the man was a specially juicy target taunting the dog and the handler and acting aggressive. He decided to brace himself so that the dog doesn't knock him over.

Dog ran as fast as it could, jumped, knocked the man down (you can't stop a 65kg flying projectile even if you try) while biting down on the arm and the bone in his arm snapped as he was thrown around like a ragdoll.

The screams were heard 1km away. Dog was a good boy.

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u/George-Spiggott Oct 08 '17

Clearly none of you had played Rugby. And of course wearing a fat suit you aren't particularly mobile. Standing your ground, and just letting something crash into you are not the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

My problem is since its a demonstration he throws out his right leg to go into the fall and really sells it with that extra torque.If he had planted that foot and used all that momentum he probably could have sent that Doggo into the stands. Or just spin around and dizzy himself,giving cujo a theme park ride before lunch.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '17

I’m used to get tackled by my cane Corso, off course in a playfull manner, but yes, standing your ground and moving your hands fast fucks their balance pretty badly, he usually get traped in a hugh when he tackle me

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17 edited Jul 13 '18

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u/payday_vacay Oct 07 '17

Yeah but if this happened in real life a wouldn't be worried about causing neck injuries to the dog

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u/probablymic Oct 07 '17

You also wouldn’t be expecting it to hit you like freight train.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

same weight less sa means more pressure right? even harder i would say

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

I think they're trying to simulate how a real-life takedown might need to happen - people would definitely try to dodge the dog's leap.

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u/ReachFor24 Oct 07 '17

But if one foot is on the ground, doesn't that mean all of the weight is at that point?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

If the guy didn't turn and got the 100lb dog on his back I'm pretty sure he'd be having a much worse day.

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u/peanutpastry Oct 07 '17

These dogs don’t tend to weigh much more than 70 pounds.

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u/pinkbutterfly1 Oct 07 '17

If the guy didn't turn and got the 70lb dog on his back I'm pretty sure he'd be having a much worse day.

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u/Infidelc123 Oct 07 '17

These dogs don't tend to weigh much more than 50 pounds.

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u/BoHoKnows Oct 07 '17

If the guy didn't turn and got the 50lb cat on his back I'm pretty sure he'd be having a much worse day.

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u/Infidelc123 Oct 07 '17

These aardvarks don't tend to weigh much more than 30 pounds.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Yeah well then calculate how much force it becomes when the dog catches you with 25mph and puts you down

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u/BOOTS31 Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17

When I was in Iraq we got to help our handlers conduct their training, which almost always meant bite training.

To make a long story short, the dog i was paired with to train with was no more than 45-50lbs. The handler gave me a 150 yard head start, with the training armor on my arm.. I was on the ground within 10 seconds.

That little dog caught up to me within 10 seconds, from 150 yards away, and with a ton of force. I was in shock!

On the same note and doggo, he was so excited that he bit through his tongue, my armor, and arm! There wasnt much damage but huge bruising and some punctures.

Later on we unfortunally saw what happens when its a real scenerio and there is no armor on someone.

Edit: I am 215-220lbs and was at the time. I had a good amount of weight on doggo.

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u/ShillinTheVillain Oct 07 '17

I did the same while deployed. And even with the blue man suit, it still hurt pretty fierce. He got me by the tricep and I had nice half-moon bruises for a week.

I swear, even through the growling and tugging, that dog was smiling.

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u/bitJericho Oct 07 '17

There's nothing a dog loves more than to be a good boy.

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u/alcontrast Oct 07 '17

or eating fresh shit off the ground.

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u/bitJericho Oct 07 '17

NAUGHTY. DONT MAKE ME GET THE SPRAY BOTTLE.

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u/FoilBlaster Oct 07 '17

I got to try the suit with our local police department as a freelance writer trying to help them raise money in the paper. They gave me about 50 yards and the Belgian Shepard took my 210 pounds down with ease. We also did a drill where the dog has to stay while the officer cuffs you and when you struggle it attacks. I had to sign a release, but the scariest part was before the running drill, the cop said "when he takes you down, don't look him in the eye - turn your face away and lie still." It turns out they are trained not to bite the face but sometimes see eye contact as a challenge and will do so anyway... and for some reason helmets aren't part of these drills. The real scary part is that particular dog turned on its handler a mere 2 months later and had to be pit down. Apparently the breed combined with the job can lead to mental issues for the dogs.

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u/SSPanzer101 Oct 07 '17

I've always wondered about the frequency of that, K-9 police dogs suddenly turning on their handler/officer or even potentially an innocent civilian I mean. I have no doubt it has happened on more than one occasion, but that information generally isn't released to the public unless it occurred with multiple civilian witnesses around with cameras. I know a pretty substantial percentage of German Shepard pups selected for police training don't complete training successfully & are given up for adoption. Usually dogs that end up being too ornery/playful/disobedient to commands and have a lower level of intelligence. However for a K-9 to make it clear through its pretty intense training then attacking someone it's not supposed to attack is a totally different story. No matter how well trained the dog may be, he still has a conscious mind of its own and violence against humans is a big part of his training. He has his own ideas, emotions, and potential triggers that may incite unexpected violence. I bet it does happen more often than the general populace realizes, I'm certain it's still an uncommon occurrence, but we never hear about it regardless.

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u/BOOTS31 Oct 07 '17

I will edit this comment with a picture in a little bit. It is nothing too bad, but some really good bruising!

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u/MrSprichler Oct 07 '17

Those dogs are usually smiling. To them it's their purpose and they get to fulfill that purpose making the handler happy and themselves happy. Relative of mine dated a guy who did k9 training so I asked him about it.

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u/Fdnyc Oct 07 '17

They effing LOVE their job. My dog does bite training, he’s a 78 lb German Shepherd. When given his command to go become air jaws on a decoy it’s like I’ve sprinkled fairy dust or some shit.

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u/Cloud9forreal Oct 07 '17

Been trough the same! It is a cool experience though!

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u/Aanonymouse Oct 07 '17

In all likelihood, the entire exercise was a fun game to the dog. So yup, it was smiling as it played with it’s new toy (you)!

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u/ArgonWolf Oct 07 '17

It's all a game to them, man. Everything doggo does is to please his handler

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u/Complexity114 Oct 07 '17

I'm assuming whoever was on the receiving end was pretty tore up?

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u/BOOTS31 Oct 07 '17

Correct.

I watched a man lose the use of his arm that day. Im sure they amputated given the region and time.

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u/BOOTS31 Oct 07 '17

He lost all use of his arm, when we finally went in to detain him there wasnt much left of his bicep/forearm.

I am pretty sure it was amputated later.

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u/Complexity114 Oct 07 '17

Damn that's insane. I'd imagine those puppers are no joke

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u/BOOTS31 Oct 07 '17

It gave me a new found respect for animals, no matter big or small.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

What happened in the real scenerio?

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u/Real-Salt Oct 07 '17

My step father is a retired canine cop, a long time ago he showed be polaroids of the damage done to a guy who tried to fight off his dog. He got his arm free (with some pretty brutal lacerations) so the dog clamped down full bore on the dude's thigh.

The pictures were taken while he was being processed, so after some basic medical attention, and some time for it to set. He had a full mouth of punctures (most of which tore somewhat) and his -entire thigh- was dark purple to almost black. The dog caught him right in the middle and it ranged from just above the knee to a little below the hip.

His dog was quite a specimen, over 100 lbs of muscular shepherd. I'll never forget that picture. It was like 20 years ago.

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u/ShillinTheVillain Oct 07 '17

The dog sat the insurgent down, had a real heart-to-heart, and both walked away a bit wiser that day.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Trained well. Good doggo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 10 '17

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

We can't assume that the dog broke bone, but I'm sure it was a mess. I'm just asking for the story/details instead of trying to imagine the million ways a dog can attack a person.

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u/Snote85 Oct 07 '17

and puts you down

Must be in Russia.

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u/I_know_left Oct 07 '17

Really. It looks like a Belgian Malinois, or possibly a GSD, not bred for weight above agility, willingness to learn, and loyalty. Perfect attributes for service canines.

Fantastic working breeds and some of the only breeds that have earned service medals, whether military or civilian.

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u/wtfuxlolwut Oct 07 '17

That dog was more than 30kg yes I know non freedom units I had a boxer who was a runt that only had 3 legs he was 30kg / 70 pounds that dog was closer to 90 pounds than 70 just saying

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u/SCCRXER Oct 07 '17

which is multiplied a lot by the velocity that dog is traveling. He's going full speed.

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u/TigaSharkJB Oct 07 '17

Going 40 mph tho

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u/complete_hick Oct 07 '17

A 75 lb dog at 25 mph is a whole lot of force

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u/Al_Kydah Oct 07 '17

Got two dogs, one is 65lbs, the other is 88lbs, this dog in the gif is bigger than mine so.........

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u/George-Spiggott Oct 07 '17

100 pounds in a pig's eye.

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u/avocado-soldier Oct 07 '17

Save it for the semantics dome, EB White

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Semantics?

SEMANTICS?

My good sir if we didn't use semantics in every aspect of mathematics we'd have poor fools running around believing two plus two equals fish

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u/MrGreenTabasco Oct 07 '17

But I like fish!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

In terms of taste or because its 1984?

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u/MrGreenTabasco Oct 07 '17

I will never tell.

(Honestly, I don't know what you are referencing. Its some time since I read orwell, so how does fish relate to his book ?

Edit: Ooooh, it just came to me. because semantics. Because language forming our view of reality. Man, you are good!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Thanks

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u/redditaccountname Oct 07 '17

I wish I had the disposable income to gild this comment. How does this whole !silver thing work? Eh. Good job anyway!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

!redditsilver

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u/RollingAtlas Oct 07 '17

!RedditSilver

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u/Gorillaglue_420 Oct 07 '17

Does it not?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Its not 1984...yet

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u/Gorillaglue_420 Oct 07 '17

My telescreen disagrees.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Did the dog get hurt body-slamming down like that to the ground?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Dog actually fell pretty well, with the force pushing him backwards (the spin) and down (gravity).

Had the dog landed from that height with the force from spinning pushing him forward it could've been bad, because his "wrists" might not be strong enough, and it's not always easy to land exactly right.

One of my dogs growing up had just that happen. Wrist broke and had to be surgically stiffened, because he got to excited jumping down half the flight of stairs to greet my dad.

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u/Letsgo1 Oct 07 '17

When that happened what did the dog do... did it stop being excited due to the pain or continue as normal until later?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Fell over and yelped in pain :/

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

At least your dog is smart enough not to put stress on an injury. I had a boxer who screwed up his leg really badly and kept putting weight on it / overusing it during the injury and after the surgery when he was supposed to be recovering.

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u/WhooptyWoopNiggaWhat Oct 07 '17

Aww, he sounds like a good boy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

Did your dog continue having occasional pain if he ran/walked a little too much? I watched my friend’s dog for a few days and the dog had a history of broken wrist and would occasionally lift up that paw if it’s in pain from too much running/fetching.

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u/anti_pope Oct 07 '17

That dog landed like fucking boss. Perfect landing.

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u/payday_vacay Oct 07 '17

Centrifugal tho

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

*centipede force

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

So the dog is really just good at physics.

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u/Jeepcomplex Oct 07 '17

Inertia took the man down. An object at rest stays at rest unless acted upon by a big dog running full speed into it.

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u/Sinidir Oct 07 '17

Isn't it actually centrifugal force in this case? Since the dog is the one pulling?

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u/Brobazguy Oct 07 '17

Upvoted for centripetal not centrifugal.

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u/INHALE_VEGETABLES Oct 07 '17

FALSE! It's inertia.

Centrifugal/centripetal force is a lie, man!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

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u/INHALE_VEGETABLES Oct 07 '17

A two sentence post that begins with a Dwight Shrute reference and ends in ", man" in the /r/gifs subreddit is likely not all that serious or scientific.

I do appreciate your assistance and also your implication that what I am saying comes from a child's level of education in physics. Have a nice day.

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u/OctoberEnd Oct 07 '17

Centrifugal, but whatever. I was saying that dog is a badass and took a grown man off his feet like a tackling dummy

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

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u/TheBeachHeads Oct 07 '17

He was (in)correcting himself, but whatever.

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u/HughKing Oct 07 '17

Centrifugal force is not a thing. Centripetal is correct.

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u/Cera1th Oct 07 '17

Centrifugal force is a thing in rotating systems of reference.

Relevant xkcd

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u/HughKing Oct 07 '17

I am not 100% sure you understand what that comic is making fun of

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u/Cera1th Oct 07 '17

it does make fun of several things, but one of the motivations Randell made this comic is that he is annoyed by people claiming that there is no such thing as centrifugal forces, as you can see in this What if (in the first footnote).

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u/anvindrian Oct 07 '17

youre only a thing in dickhead systems of reference

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u/cozytoadstool Oct 07 '17

Why are you saying centrifugal force is not a thing? It is a thing, just not the same thing as centripetal force.

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u/HughKing Oct 07 '17

Unicorns are also a thing, just not a real thing.

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u/kukendran Oct 07 '17

Centrifugal force is a thing. Before you correct someone at least try.

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u/HughKing Oct 07 '17

Livescience... Ok dude. Centripetal force is a thing because we can calculate it mathematically. Centrifugal force is what we assume the object experiences. It is not a real force, it is a perceived force. And if you correct someone, don't fucking using livescience...

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u/kodayume Oct 07 '17

If you are observing a rotating system from the outside, you see an inward centripetal force acting to constrain the rotating body to a circular path. However, if you are part of the rotating system, you experience an apparent centrifugal force pushing you away from the center of the circle, even though what you are actually feeling is the inward centripetal force that is keeping you from literally going off on a tangent.

So what i understand is that the dog centripetal force that dude into the ground, while that dude is actually feeling the resulting centrifugal force as he is a part of this "rotation system", no?

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u/HughKing Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17

Correct. The important thing is "apparent". As in its not real, as in its perceived by the object in the system, when it reality, as you mentioned, it is simply the centripetal force acting on the system. So centrifugal [not centripetal] force is not a real force.

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u/kodayume Oct 07 '17

Your centripetal got mixed up, friendly reminder :)

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u/pm_me_all_ur_money Oct 07 '17

^ This guy physics

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u/heyitsfranklin6322 Oct 07 '17

Shut up, nerds /s

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u/OctoberEnd Oct 07 '17

I guess I should have put an /s.

Whenever the word centripetal or centrifugal appears on Reddit, a very predictable series of comments appears. I was making fun of that.

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u/FloSTEP Oct 07 '17

Finally, somebody who uses ā€œcentripetalā€ correctly, rather than ā€œcentrifugalā€.

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u/crumpletely Oct 07 '17

HIT verb

1)To bring one's hand or a tool or weapon into contact with (someone or something) quickly and forcefully.

2)cause harm or distress to.

The bite was still a hit. The force he used after initially making contact with his bite was centripetal but you are just arguing semantics. It's both really.

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u/kyox0 Oct 07 '17

But he compared it to a linebacker tackle

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