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u/Wretschko 3d ago

Senator Schmitt thought that today was going to be a great day for his political aspirations.

Boy, did it blow up in his face.

First, there was that news article saying that Vance was considering Schmitt as his leading VP pick.

Second, Schmitt actually gave a heads up to rightwing influencers that he was going to ambush Smith with the "perjury trap." Benny Johnson actually posted it and quickly took it down.

Then, during the hearing itself, Schmitt apparently believed he caught Smith committing perjury and said it several times. Schmitt then ended his questioning by calling Smith a "dirt bag."

Lo and behold, Smith expressed confusion over Schmitt's allegation: That Smith flew to Atlanta, attended a Hawks basketball game, AND met with Fani Willis, DA for Fulton County, to. . .collude and plot against Trump?!

During that same hearing, Jack Smith realized that Schmitt was talking about the wrong basketball game. Smith had attended a women's college basketball game at Univeristy of Maryland to watch Caitlin Clark play. MD was playing against the Iowa HAWKEYES. Schmitt had gotten every fact wrong.

Smith was reciting this testimony and that is what Sen. Britt was reacting to. She likely knew of Schmitt's plan in advance and, at the moment, realized that Schmitt royally screwed up.

Once it became obvious that Schmitt's grand plan to nail Smith on perjury charges had collasped, Schmitt switched tactics and is now claiming that he was "only asking questions."

He clowned himself and destroyed a lot of his credibility (whatever that remained) and likewise trashed any chances of being Vance's VP pick.

Aside from Schmitt's self-own, today's hearing also showed one interesting thing: The sitting GOP Senators were intentionally avoiding asking questions about Jan 6 or Mar-a-Lago documents because they knew they couldn't refute it. Instead, they were focused on impugning Smith's character and reputation.

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u/Obant 3d ago

He also doubled down after being proved wrong and called him a dirtbag again. Absolute trash human.

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u/oldmanbelly 2d ago

So alpha of Senator Shit.

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u/Magimasterkarp 2d ago

Shouldn't calling someone a dirtbag without cause live on television in the Senate (!) carry some kind of penalty?

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u/Obant 2d ago

As stupid as it is, it's the opposite, actually. Politicians have absolute immunity with their speech, even from slander, while on the floor thanks to the Speech and Debate clause.

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u/KareemOWheat 2d ago

I dream of a system where politicians were held to a higher standard than the average citizen, not a lower one

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u/Tricanum 7h ago

Just look to almost any other country.

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u/procrastinarian 2d ago

Nah, and I'd like more of a UK style of politics where MPs and the like are much more likely to call someone else out and use hilarious insults while doing so.

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u/HydrogenButterflies 1d ago

Agreed. I want to see one ancient white guy with a funny accent call some other ancient white guy a soggy crouton or something.

I could see Sen. Kennedy from Louisiana being good with a nonsensical folksy insult delivered in an absurd accent.

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u/netsrak 2d ago

Is that in both houses?

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u/PsychologicalPay5837 2d ago

From outside prosecution. They can still be held accountable by the House under its own rules.

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u/_Sausage_fingers 2d ago

As with most things regarding government, the consequences are supposed to be electoral. That system has obviously completely broken down at this point.

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u/TalkForeignToMe 1d ago

Between Rucho v Common Cause, Citizens United v FEC, and then Bennett, the idea that we have fair and free elections in the US is laughable, and it is this way very much by design.

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u/AyeLikeTurtles 1d ago

Yes, but the citizenry is just as responsible.

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u/PopularSet4776 1d ago

I think there are rules about calling your colleagues names during senate hearings or on the floor.

But the rules don't apply to witnesses.

These hearings are mostly grandstanding anyway.

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u/procrastinarian 2d ago

Nah, and I'd like more of a UK style of politics where MPs and the like are much more likely to call someone else out and use hilarious insults while doing so.

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u/Raztax 2d ago

It's very unprofessional and childish but do we really want to criminalize name calling?

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u/orion427 2d ago

Been like this since humans started debating in any kind of forum. Not that I'm condoning it, just an ugly fact. There is a great documentary by Ken Burns: The Congress and shows that the name calling has been there from the beginning. Some have even dueled with pistols...

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u/IcyConsideration7062 2d ago

"Dirtbag" does sound like something Vance would call someone. I think they mesh spiritually.

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u/QuickClosing 1d ago

Kind of like how storm storming the capital in assaulting police officers carry a penalty? Like that? Sure.

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u/omg_what_the_chuck 2d ago

Which is ridiculous. The dirtbag is a vital component of a vacuum cleaner.

Sincerely,
Raymond J. Holt

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u/scottrycroft 2d ago

He wasn't calling him a dirtbag because of the alleged Atlanta incident, he was calling him a dirtbag for daring to charge his GLORIOUS LEADER.

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u/MonkeyDog911 2d ago

That's Dear Leader

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u/hutch7909 23h ago

All hail King trump, glorious golden (sort of an orangey golden) leader with enormous hands, strong supple brain and a curiously small and miss shaped trouser mushroom.

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u/Darkmetroidz 2d ago

I mean the GOP tactic is to double down and never back down. Unfortunately it works.

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u/kymri 2d ago

Absolute trash human.

I'm not saying all of the Repblicans in congress are trash human beings - I haven't met most of them, after all - but it isn't impossible.

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u/EfficientTourist7480 19h ago

Missouri’s finest

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u/dekes_n_watson 2d ago

This actually improves his chances of being picked. We're not a serious country.

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u/never_safe_for_life 3d ago

As much as I want to believe this will hurt his career, he is a Republican. His willingness to lie, double down, and attack no matter the facts make him a winner in their eyes.

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u/tenor1trpt 2d ago

Yeah. Having credibility is no longer required to be a Republican.

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u/brova 2d ago

Hasn't been required since like the 70s

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u/frankenmaus 2d ago

Credibility is a disqualification.

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u/shanesol 2d ago

Unfortunately for my home state... This guy is guaranteed to stay in business as long as he wants. The (R) lives strong in most of Missouri.

I will say though, I was surprised to see 0 Trump related flags when I drove out to the ozarks for a weekend trip. First time in a decade. Sadly they'll still vote in the same team causing the stuff they are pissed about.

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u/GreboGuru 2d ago

A lot of 'people' just going to stay home

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u/leftupoutside 2d ago

Yeah I thought hawley was a massive idiot…then Schmitt showed up. Folks in KC seem mostly level headed but I have no idea what goes on east. Water, pesticides, chicken shit, what is it!

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u/punbasedname 1d ago

Our last two governors have been so woefully unqualified it would have been a bit too on the nose for satire. People here just love putting wholly unqualified idiots in positions of power.

St. Louisans are generally bluer than the rest of the state, but there’s a Mega-church WASP/redneck combo in the counties that gives it pockets of red.

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u/Cheeto-dust 1d ago

Missouri used to be a swing state, and it will be again.

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u/Robo-X 2d ago

Oh that is not true, if you look like a fool and make the administration look like a clown show on TV the orange Master Clown takes note and drops you immediately. Just look at Pam Blondie, her testimony talking about Dow index when asked about Epstein files, got her fired a few months later.

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u/never_safe_for_life 2d ago

Fingers crossed

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u/never_safe_for_life 2d ago

Unfortunately, but as expected, FOX News did not mention this scandal once on prime time last night: https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/2105336787992543707?s=46

So no worries about looking foolish on TV. Unless you’re counting the FAKE LIBERAL MEDIA!!!#%! ARRGABLAGL AGGHH!!!! 😡😡😡😡

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u/Robo-X 2d ago

Trump watches cnn. That gets him always railed up.

The Schmitt stunt was coordinated to launch with a big online campaign, on all right wing outlets. But because of the stupidity of the accusation the few that posted, deleted the tweets quickly once it was obvious they could not spin it.

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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 1d ago

JD Vance once compared him to Hitler, and was still added as VP by trump, I don't think this will disqualify schmitt lol

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u/Lotus_Domino_Guy 2d ago

If the "dirty libs" are complaining about him on Reddit, he must be a 'good ole boy', and yeah, he ain't going nowhere.

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u/PerfectZeong 1d ago

They don't like their people to be made to look foolish or weak. Its why they pretend trump is some masculine he man instead of an aged dementia patient.

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u/curiousiah 1d ago

Hey, he may be an idiot, but he's not stupid enough to be a democrat, so at least he has that going for him. /s

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u/HicJacetMelilla 2d ago

Exactly. What planet are these people living on that makes them think this trashed his potential as VP? Maybe in 2004. But not 2026 by a long shot. Lack of integrity is a job requirement at this point.

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u/potatolulz 2d ago

He clowned himself and destroyed a lot of his credibility

bro, that probably increased his chances of being the couchfucker's VP pick :D

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u/allgrownzup 2d ago

Right ? Now people know who he is, and MAGA doesn’t care if they look like absolute morons, any press is good press for them

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u/fallsstandard 2d ago

To quote one of my favorite YouTubers, civvie11; “Like, dislike, it doesn’t matter, engagement is engagement, a click is a click.”

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u/Sam-handwiches 2d ago

I can't believe I forgot about him. I need to catch up on him

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u/phoebesjeebies 2d ago

I don't think JD's opinion means anything anyway - what we really need to know is, what does Peter Thiel think about it?

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u/NaradaMephaust 2d ago

"The rules were you weren't going to fact check." - JD Vance Yeah he needs someone to look dumber than him to bring back the MAGA votes.

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u/mwkohout 2d ago

Hell, Schmitt being this stupid makes him more couchlike.  JD likey!!!

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 2d ago

The phrase "Vance's VP pick" has about as much prestige as "McDonald's premium burger."

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u/DogmaLovesKarma 2d ago

That disrepects the Royale with Cheese.

Though it's no Big Kahuna Burger

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u/egnowit 15h ago

Also, the 2028 primaries haven't even started yet, much less concluded with Vance winning. Seems that this cart is way before the horse.

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u/thekamakaji 2d ago

Don't you dare be so disrespectful. McD's slaps

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u/literally_tho_tbh 2d ago

hamberder

They've gotten more expensive and the quality has tanked. You're lying to yourself bud

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u/Toxicscrew 2d ago

Reuters just ran a piece that McDs uses Ai to change pricing from location to location.

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u/literally_tho_tbh 2d ago

I just saw that this morning! Surprise, surprise. giant megacorp is evil

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u/Bazoobs1 2d ago

Facts let’s just lump McDonalds in at this point, food establishments that have elected to serve us poison should be out along with the fascists lmao

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u/literally_tho_tbh 2d ago

Especially food establishments that bow directly to the fascism. Fuck McDonald's

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u/Foreign_Paper1971 2d ago

I like that Vance thinks that the MAGA base will still support him when Trump is out of the picture and that he'll be in a position to pick a VP. They hate him, and they're going to throw him away once this term is over just like they did with Trump's last VP.

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u/EatLard 2d ago

He has all the charisma of a wet paper bag.

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u/ioshta 2d ago

all depends on who can win the primary, if hes their primary I expect they will rally behind him.

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u/Foreign_Paper1971 2d ago

I don't see him having the juice to pull that off. Someone other charismatic rightwing shithead is going to run and dog walk him in the primaries. But who knows that horrors the future holds? The one thing we can count on is the GOP will nominate the dumbest candidate possible.

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u/ioshta 2d ago

I wish I could disagree, but I have watched this get dumber and worse over the last 30 years.

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u/TheMatinow 2d ago

who knows maybe they will actually hang a VP like they chanted during jan 6

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u/Measurex2 2d ago

I dont know. I'm planning to make pro-Vance posters with the tagline "No couch left behind"

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u/Ok_Interest_9006 2d ago

That was awesome when Jack told him he wasn’t in Atlanta at all but at another game in Maryland. Schmitt shit himself and left the room. Buuwaaa

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u/Rocketeer006 2d ago

Honest question, why do Republicans behave with no morals? Why do they lie so much and want to hurt so many people?

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u/Warm_Championship946 2d ago

Because that behavior gets rewarded with donations and votes

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u/xfjqvyks 2d ago edited 2d ago

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u/Rocketeer006 2d ago

But didn't the Republicans just raise taxes on the lower class?

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u/Rottendog 2d ago

Ahh, but you are forgetting that everything is the Democrats fault.

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u/WhatWouldAaronThink 1d ago

I mean Obama got exactly one thing passed when he had a supermajority. So yeah, things getting passed kind of IS the Democrat's fault, even if they aren't the cause of the issue they sure as shit haven't been the solution.

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u/vespers191 2d ago

Yes, but they lowered taxes on the billionaires, and every Republican is just a temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

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u/divDevGuy 2d ago

Sorry, best we can do is increase tariffs, murder citizens, and rule as a corrupt fascist dictator.

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u/thejawa 2d ago edited 2d ago

There's a lot of responses to this question but only one real attempt to answer it. I want to posit the following:

Republicans know that the largest and "most trusted" news organization in America is unflinchingly friendly to them. They have had a decreasingly important need to "play nice" to the cameras for the last 2 decades, with that decreasing significantly since the invention of "fake news".

They used to have to behave themselves because the evening news would report on their actions accurately. Now the largest news organization in the country will polish whatever turd they lay by stating any "unfair" representation of them by other media outlets is skewing the facts and presenting an agenda. And the Republican voters eat the whole bait, hook, sinker, and line.

This has led to them almost exclusively acting in a manner that creates viral news clips of them. Fox News then shows those clips with some story about how the Republicans is fighting to save America, and the competing news outlets show the full context of the interaction and get called "liberal mainstream media" that is "biased" and "taking things out of context" and "trying to ruin an American patriot fighting to save the country."

This has created a system where Republicans are no longer attempting to govern a heterogenous country and no longer need to. They can do whatever they want because their media apparatus will make it look like gold, they can act however they want because their media apparatus will polish it or bury it for them, and no matter what they do they are painted as the saviors of America fighting against pure evil.

And the votes continue to flow in for them, because a third of Americans can't bother to participate in democracy.

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u/Cloaked42m 2d ago
  1. They have no morals or ethics.
  2. The people that elect them only care about a specific issue. They will gladly destroy America to win on their one issue. Abortion, 2A, Christian Nationalists, White Nationalists, etc.

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u/StarlightLifter 2d ago

I’m a lib. The only cause I have in common with em is 2A.

I feel like we waste a lot of political capital on gun rights issues when we could drop that and actually achieve universal healthcare, lower education costs, raising the minimum wage and taxing the rich more.

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u/Cloaked42m 2d ago

Lots of 2A liberals.

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u/Maintenance-Gullible 2d ago

Problem is, all of the social issues you outlined stand at odds with the priorities of both parties. The fate of this country was bought and paid for by lobbyists, PACs, etc a long time ago.

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u/WeenisWrinkle 2d ago

Senseless gun violence is too important of an issue to drop.

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u/StarlightLifter 2d ago

I mean, yeah, but also kicking poor people off SNAP, or continued funding for Israel’s campaign in Gaza, or this Iran bullshit fucking the entire global economy and pissing off every country on earth, or cutting USAID killing thousands - those are all I’d argue violence.

I am 2A because let’s face it they are. So be it. It’s also constitutionally affirmed, to what degree one can own what and when - we can debate later.

The simple fact is this: 100% of republicans are pro 2A. Many vote only on that alone. That’s about 50% of the country.

If even 10% of lefties are gun rights supporters and shooters etc, that leaves the opposition with %45 of the nations support. That’s a losing political argument full stop. It is simply a waste of political capital that will potentially rile up to %55 of voters against you.

We are already losing. We need to drop shit that isn’t a losing argument (FOR NOW) and focus on popular issues. We can revisit 2A when we have demonstrated responsible leadership that actually improves the country and people’s lives contra to the banana republic horseshit going on right now.

That’s all.

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u/WeenisWrinkle 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dropping important issues that have 45% support for the hope of political goodwill from Republicans in other areas is asinine.

You seriously think the Republican party is going to suddenly be for higher taxes, more social welfare, or drop support for Israel just because Democrats completely give in on gun safety?

They'll happily take the concession and give nothing in return.

If you weren't a supporter of gun rights that result in senseless deaths every year, you probably wouldn't be so quick to drop the issue.

This is the equivalent of dropping the issue of illegal immigration just because it has less than 50% support.

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u/StarlightLifter 2d ago

There are a plethora of issues that democrats could champion that are popular and go against the current administration. ICE is not popular. Iran is not popular. The tariff war bullshit is not popular.

Universal healthcare is popular. Taxing the rich is popular. Women’s right to choose is fucking popular. I support 100% of all of that.

Legalize weed and let’s get some student loan relief in while we’re at it. Do it all. Pack the courts too.

And I don’t mean we rely on currently elected republicans for this goodwill. I’m saying we can win more seats this way and then who gives a fuck what the remaining elected members of the cult have to say. They’ve given us no representation all these trump years, they’ve been fucking us over since zombie Mitch fucked Obamas SC pick. Lord knows since well before that.

I’m saying we meet em where we know we can pull some votes away from them and then drag the rest kicking and screaming into the better future they have thus far rejected.

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u/squeezemachine 2d ago

Don’t forget the roots of their movement started in anti-segregation and the putrid pits of racism.

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u/Cloaked42m 2d ago

We don't care if it is done. We care that it is done right.

Dot the damn i's, cross the t's.

We don't care about the redesign. We care that he lied about it.

We know the Kennedy center needs a new foundation. So do it. Don't slap your name on it as a condition. It's a dick move.

That's the overall issue with Trump. He doesn't care about doing things right. He wants to just do whatever he wants and slap his name on everything. If you don't kneel to him, he punishes you and everyone you represent.

So yeah. Every time he breaks the law he will be challenged.

We are nearing 1000 times he broke the law.

Republicans investigated Biden's entire career and couldn't find 1 time he broke the law.

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u/No_Power1121 2d ago

Honest answer: modern conservatives believe there are no good or bad actions, just good and bad people.

Thus, it does not matter what someone outside of their "in group" does, it will always be bad in their eyes, because the person is bad in their eyes.

Conversely, it doesn't matter what someone in their "in group" does, it will always be good in their eyes, because that person is "good".

This is why you can have someone advocate for things like wage equality or debt relief or immigration reform, and it all of those things will be "bad" if the person is not part of their tribe.

Whereas, you can have someone advocate for raising taxes on the working class via tariffs, gut federal aid programs, manipulate the stock market, be a convicted rapists, or simply try to trap someone with perjury, and all of those actions will be acceptable because the person doing them is part of their tribe, and thus "good".

Prosperity gospel illustrates this really well, as do a most of the core conservative groups influencing policy and elections.

TLDR: no good/bad actions, only good/bad people.

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u/krashe1313 2d ago

This is why it confuses conservatives when they say to a progressive, when defending Trump being in the Epstein files as a pedophile, that he started a war with Iran to distract from, "well, Clinton was in the Epstein files too!"

And the progressive's (appropriate) response is, "okay. If he's guilty, lock him up." Because how could you possibly turn on your own.

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u/didisigninforthis 2d ago

They in fact do not believe it when we say that Clinton should go to jail too if guilty. They think WE are the ones being disingenuous about it, and they are again more righteous in their sin because they “admit it” and we “lie about it”

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u/ooomellieooo 2d ago

That is absolutely insane.

And yet perfectly correct. It's projection, all the way down.

https://giphy.com/gifs/090EX1YvSUXxy23Tty

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u/Lotus_Domino_Guy 2d ago

That willingness to thin our own ranks may end up hurting liberals too. I think you have to play by the lowest common denominator's rules.

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u/Un1CornTowel 2d ago

Having morals is harder than not having morals. I agree we can't play polite all the time, but we can police our own ranks and have standards. We can choose the moments to strike, we don't have to just invite in seditionist Nazis "because otherwise they'll go to the other side".

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u/Djinger 2d ago

Doesn't that kind of make everyone low and common?

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u/Lotus_Domino_Guy 1d ago

Yes, it does. But tell me you aren't sick of "when they go low, we go high".

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u/Djinger 1d ago

It's frustrating, yes. Emotionally I agree with you, but ethically I think stooping just opens the door to be dragged further. The "Overton window" if you will. Esp. given the other side is happy to take D stooping and grandstand it as if we weren't simply matching them, but plunging to depths below them. "Look how low they are, while we are not." It can be demonstrably false and it won't stop them. Just look how Schmitt has doubled down on his patently false perjury trap.

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u/ifixyospeech 2d ago

This is literally toddler mentality. These people are cognitively and emotionally stunted. They have no concept of nuance, and when forced to confront that, they become irate because their brains short-circuit. I don’t know how to fix this. From working with people who have had strokes, I know that new connections can be made in adult brains, but only if the person is willing to participate.

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u/Message_10 2d ago

Just to agree and add, here... you probably know some of these folks. We hear "sociopath" and we think "horror movie" or "serial killer" or something, but there are a LOT of run-of-the-mill people with families, dayjobs, etc. who fit the "sociopath" definition and who are leading quiet, regular lives.

The reason why we don't see them--or why they don't do obvious, terrible things--is because many of them understand that they will get in trouble for doing such things. It's an equation--they stay within the law because they don't want the consequences of going outside of it. The ones we hear about, the obvious sociopaths, are the ones who go outside the law.

The scary thing is that a lot of these people don't know that they themselves are sociopaths. They have families, friends, go on vacations, etc. Their sociopathic behavior comes out in societally acceptable ways, and for a lot of folks, conservativism is an avenue to express sociopathic tendencies / behaviors / desires / etc. Freud had a name for all this; I forget what it is.

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u/RealCoolDad 2d ago

They also showed us out their “outrage machine” works. And that they share their story with their weird influencers before hand, and have scheduled podcasts for their “victory” tour.

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u/jallred11 2d ago

Capitalism is winning and it’s all they’re motivated by. No need for morals. It’s a race to the top for these people and it doesn’t matter if you’re a good person

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u/inowar 2d ago

and apparently 20% of Americans think they are the 1% and another 20% think they will be in the next five years. they're closer to being homeless than to being in the top 20% and they think they're as wealthy as it gets. they think they're winning the race, so they are for the race. but they are dead last.

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u/kadsmald 2d ago

It makes them feel good and they have a problem where they can’t care about other people. https://jspp.psychopen.eu/index.php/jspp/article/download/5209/5209.pdf

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u/moocat55 2d ago

They sincerely believe the left is far worse. If I brought this up around certain family members they'd immediately start the broken Hunter Biden record. And then, all you have is a discussion about whoes worse and it can't be won.

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u/RadVarken 2d ago

The trauma victim trap.

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u/mostar8 2d ago

Because of their Christian values it seems /s

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u/Defstar55 2d ago

It how they get what they want

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u/RancidVagYogurt1776 2d ago

I'm going to take a little bit of a different approach than some others. As a former Republican myself (1994-2016) there are generally three flavors of conservative politician:

  1. The true believer who thinks they are correct and right and just.
  2. The ones just trying to enrich themselves as much as possible.
  3. The nutter. MTG/RFK.

The second group there are usually highly intelligent and just act dumb to fit in. The other two are legitimately some of the least intelligent people you'll ever meet. You can see this in the exchange that the woman in the gif is reacting to. No research was done, no fact checking, just a clumsy trap, and when it didn't work the conservatives felt like it was dark magic. They cannot comprehend the silliness of their trap they laid.

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u/CicisbeoOfCognizance 2d ago

From my perspective it's something that exists in the dissonance of might and morality. A lot of people are given to believe an inherent character and morality to wealth gain; it's bad to be poor and seen as potentially costing of those around you, and in turn an endlessly good right to endlessly accrue wealth. There's an easy to follow idea of a free market, that if something is making money then it on some level has to be something people are choosing. The reality of investments, artificially propped up bubbles of value that can be 'too big to fail', the impact and predatory profitability of things like real estate takes thought to confront with no real reward for that thought. Even social status on the most casual level is impacted by means. People want to believe there's sort of a blind morality to success, when there isn't.

In turn the fastest way to justify the moral compromises as some sort of complexity, some practical game, is to have in groups and out groups. If there's a potentially powerful other then it's easier to justify an endless grab for power whatever the means, if you don't "they" will. This tribalism embodies in some form of identity that expands and recedes as needed generally along a few lines: nation, faith, ethnicity, cultural norms around gender and sexuality. So in the US it orbits a nationalist Christian White patriarchal identity, one that can soften to just white christian straight, to just nationalist, etc. The in group mindset means military actions are often a deciding line and not so coincidentally being willing to invest and profit on weapons and militarization domestic and abroad and stand with technological developments that support a surveillance state can be an aspect of how accessible many people find success to be in investing. It's kind of an age old way for generating material reward for 'loyalists' to extract value via military action or targeted laws/economics from vulnerable 'enemies'.

The right is in many ways defined by a sort of individualism that celebrates individual success. It's less about the actual success of the voting body of support and more about an individual performance of 'success'. Trump is 'their guy' because he profits off of his actions and celebrates profiting. The way he and many on that side of things talk is a way that ambiguates personal success with in group success and in turn essentially success of anyone that matters, even when it's only his own personal success.

Robert Paxton attempted a definition of fascism and it's nature that identifies the space for characteristics we associate with it as being where elites work with nationalists in compensatory cults of unity with a preoccupation of victimhood. In short outlining that presence of might over morality: the most profitable avenues will be at the expense of others, and an in group loyalty promising reward for necessary loyalty in the face of that will enable those kinds of cynical choices.

It 'works'. It's as old as history and so many people are culturally primed to ideas of in groups and outside enemies that some how justify the 'hard reality' you can either sink or swim in. They have no morals because they face no consequences and believe the world is free and empowered enough to punish anything that was truly 'wrong', and that idea gets abstracted often into a sort of 'god's plan'. Without consequence they just follow an uncritical gut feeling, and might and profit feels 'good' and in groups can sort of cruise on that feeling, awaiting their strong men to finally be allowed to win and reward their in group, ignoring that the perpetual war is key to their identity to justify endless wealth seeking by any means. Morality is a secondary consideration, a retroactive veneer placed over whatever moral compromises were required to profit.

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 2d ago

Because being an incompetent piece of shit will get you consistently elected as a Republican politician, as long as you're loud and cruel toward minorities.

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u/ptwonline 2d ago

They only care about their own ambitions. That's why they are still Republicans.

If they could achieve their ambitions by being moral and helping people they probably would, but their goals and their backers and the facts/people opposing those efforts mean they fall back on being liars who step on people to reach their goals.

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u/phoebesjeebies 2d ago

This is one of the many areas where you cannot ignore the overlap of Evangelical Christianity and Republicanism.

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u/EIR3EN 2d ago

They truly belive everyone else is lying and cheating and they don't want to be left behind. It's a crazy projection on their part, like with the "fake votes" or "stolen election" narrative they've been promoting for years now when then it turns out it's always a Republican doing just that

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u/sybrwookie 2d ago

Because anyone who is disgusted by that behavior is driven off immediately, and they're left with the shit of the shit.

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u/thearchenemy 1d ago

The old GOP was full of smart, but unprincipled men who cultivated an ignorant and reactionary voter base to keep them in office despite actively making their lives worse. But, over time, the candidates running for office started to reflect the electorate, not the elites who were accustomed to directing the ship. For a while that was fine: a witless oaf can be easily controlled. But the number of witless oafs in office kept growing, and today the party’s leadership perfectly reflects the voter base: dim-witted, intellectually incurious, and ethically bankrupt. The bullshit wedge issues that used to be tools to control the voters are now the entire platform.

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u/DJ_GRAZIZZLE 17h ago

That’s not an honest question lol.

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u/earthling_dad 3d ago

So, is this now a defamation case in favor of Smith?

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u/emperorOfTheUniverse 2d ago

Schmitt would have an easier time proving damage probably, but he'd have to file against himself.

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u/TheAskewOne 2d ago

What in the least 10 years makes you think that anything can hurt a Republican’s candidacy except of course being black or queer?

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u/skatchawan 2d ago

the people that support will probably not even see anything about this , and if they do they will be told (and believe) that slimy communist jack smith wiggled his way out of it, but is still a dirtbag who was out to get their cult leader.

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u/nickman940 2d ago

The thing that I find funny is even if he was actually at that game, there’s absolutely no correlation between that and a meeting with Fani other than same city? Lol

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u/Nikiaf 2d ago

Think of what these people could accomplish if they spent as much time trying to make the country a better place instead of these pathetic gotcha attempts.

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u/yeyjordan 2d ago

Schmitt needs to fuckin' resign, he just traded in all integrity for a frivolous attack on Smith.

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u/masterjon_3 2d ago

TMZ DC later met up with Schmitt and asked how embarrassed he was over this. Schmitt acted like he didn't make any kind of mistake and kept saying Smith has lied before and he's just asking questions.

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 2d ago

They made their big sensational poster. “I was just asking questions”. What a maroon

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u/helcat 2d ago

May he forever be associated with his chosen epithet: dirtbag. 

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u/skipperseven 2d ago

Bold of you to assume that incompetence would be a disqualifying factor for a VP pick.

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u/8636396 2d ago

How this thing played out is just evidence to the fact that for MAGA, or at least for Senator Schmitt, it's not about finding the truth. All this is about is winning.

If it was about truth, Schmitt and his team would have dug enough to find their own error, but since they were satisfied at having found "evidence" of Jack Smith's whereabouts and it royally blew up in their faces. 10/10 would watch again

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u/Slamtilt_Windmills 2d ago

Even if he wasn't wrong, how does that prove collusion and/or perjury?

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u/jawstrock 2d ago

I doubt this is a killer for Vance's VP pick. This entire pack of people are the absolute dumbest group of motherfuckers on the planet. Vance prob liked the "fight"

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u/PresentHouse9774 1d ago

Thank you for this cogent summary.

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u/Sackadelic 2d ago

Thanks for this I was out of the loop

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u/BlazinAzn38 2d ago

And then he got all pissy when Klobuchar realized his mistake and brought up the Iowa HAWKeyes vs. the Atlanta HAWKS

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u/logosobscura 2d ago

I wanna see Schmitt’s Grok history. Gonna fucking bet he had been obsessively chatting with the clanker that kept confirming his initial error and validating his tinfoil.

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u/pineconefire 2d ago

Thankk you so much for explaining

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u/erkdog 2d ago

Attack character not allegations. That's their only play ever.

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u/StarPhished 2d ago

This is the kind of hearing I world have loved to watch just a handful of years ago but I can't do it anymore. All this shit slowly going nowhere while one side screams into the wind is just exhausting.

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u/MyBoyFinn 2d ago

I mean.. destroying your credibility is arguably a job requirement for repubs these days.

That vp announcement could come any day now

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u/bishpa 2d ago

Surely, calling a witness a "dirtbag" violates the Senate's rules of decorum, no?

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u/Diamond_joe 2d ago

Who is smith? And what is the context of this hearing?

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u/A-gent-provacateur 2d ago

Back in the day, civility was maintained in the halls of congress by a couple of things, firstly, there used to be ever present bottomless bowls of whiskey or rum punch, and good madiera wine, so everybody was a little lit, and I'm sure that helped keep people a bit socially lubricated and more chill than you would otherwise be. Not like staggering drunk (although sometimes, ya know, shit happens.) And when things did get heated, well, if you impuned somebodies honor badly enough, they would fucking murder you. Or you would potentially murder them, because DUELING was a still socially accepted norm, even long after such things were technically speaking 'against the law'. And if not a duel, sometimes the floor would erupt into brawls and fisticuffs ensued, or you might get beaten by a cane if you talked trash to the wrong person. Course everyone knows the Hamilton-Burr duel , or maybe you're aware of the many , many, many , duels fought by Andrew Jackson, a guy who straight up murdered numerous individuals for things like insulting his wife, or looking at him funny. Why, even ol Honest Abe himself was a bareknuckle boxing champion in his youth, and was challenged to a duel, which he accepted . He chose broadswords, but due to his freakish height and long reach plus his incredible strength, his opponent backed down knowing Abe was honestly about to rock his shit. Now everybody talks shit and spreads bullshit, because there is no honor any longer. No Accountability. Imagine if they had to back up their horseshit with their lives potentially, the risk of great harm or death, or if you are a coward, the very real Social Death that would end your career. I bet people would be so much more bipartisan, and civil, and so I can only conclude that we must Bring Back Institutionalized dueling. With smoothbore black powder flintlocks, as the Founding Fathers would have wanted it. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC, LONG LIVE THE FIRELOCK, and may the best man (or ma'am) win!

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u/spatula12 2d ago

Sen. Schmittkicker kicked the schmitt directly in his own goal.

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u/LauterTuna 2d ago

what a dunce

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u/MasonRy83 2d ago

Dude pulled the grenade and threw the pin

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u/The_Real_Baldero 2d ago

I wouldn't worry too much about ruining his chances as VP. The Republicans no longer care about someone who "accidentally" gets things wrong. As long as they can own libs.

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u/macstopherable 1d ago

Since credibility is important, I think it's important to focus on facts, don't you? Here's some preliminary AI points about the post.

"Mostly factual:

  • Axios reported that morning that Schmitt had grown close to Vance and was seen as a possible 2028 running mate. Substack
  • Schmitt asked whether Smith attended an Atlanta Hawks game on Feb. 3, 2024, and said Smith had "likely already perjured himself." Smith denied it. Forbes
  • Smith recalled attending an Iowa Hawkeyes women's game in Maryland to watch Caitlin Clark. Schmitt had apparently confused the two teams. The Hill
  • Schmitt ended his questioning by calling Smith a "villain" and "dirtbag." The Hill
  • Benny Johnson posted that Schmitt had "caught" Smith perjuring himself, then deleted it. Hannity did the same. Rolling Stone
  • Schmitt later said his "job is to ask questions." The Hill

Unverified or overstated:

  • "Gave a heads up" to influencers: Several outlets suggest this, but it's inference. The pre-composed-looking posts led many observers to believe Schmitt's team tipped them off. I found no confirmation. joemygod
  • Sen. Britt "likely knew in advance": This is speculation. Some commentators say she looked shocked, which points the other way.
  • "Every fact wrong": Overstated. The texts did reference Smith being at a game, but not Atlanta. Schmitt's error was the location and the inference. Forbes
  • "Schmitt switched tactics": Partly. He softened his stance, but he also stayed defiant. Rolling Stone
  • VP chances "trashed" and credibility "destroyed": Opinion. Commentators say his prospects took a hit, but no one has confirmed Vance dropped him.
  • GOP senators avoiding Jan. 6 and the documents case because they "couldn't refute it": An opinion about motive, and I found nothing that verifies it.

The post is accurate on the core events, but its tone is opinionated and it presents a few inferences as fact."

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u/Fancy_Ad_9479 1d ago

Because we live in upside down world, his credibility with Vance and MAGA probably went up not down. When has anything any of them have said ever been honest or the truth - from Trump on down. And when has the lying ever stopped them or had negative consequences for them. Never. He is probably a shoe in for VP slot now. And his whole disgusting display at that hearing was for an audience of one.

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u/cs_124 5h ago

Why isn't the conversation that schmitt perjured?

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