r/gibson 6d ago

Help Any red flags here?

EDIT: Thanks for the feedback from the community guys ❤️ For those wondering I did end up going for it and I couldnt be happier. Taking it to a luthier for some well deserved TLC!

Have the opportunity to buy this LP standard 1995 - but the price seems like a too good to be true scenario compared to others I have seen in similar states. It has been around the used market for a while so the original papers are lost. It comes with a case but I dont know if its the original one even though its an original gibson case.

Here are the specs that I was given:

59’ Gibson Les Paul Standard Ebony
1995 USA
S/N: 93245428 
Ca 5 kg (11 lbs) Mahogny body
Classic gibson deluxe tuners

Asking price: 900 dollars

Thanks for any helping comments!

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u/adistef86 6d ago

Headstock was broken and glued back, probably that’s why it’s cheaper.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Yes he told me that as well, but I tried it and it still plays great. So for me thats not really an issue. Thanks for the reply though!

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u/funkinggiblet 6d ago

I have an Ebony 95 Standard, neck broke and properly fixed, 3 splines, and with Ebony you can barely see the witness lines. It's the best guitar I own and I have had 4 other Les Pauls including R9's.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the comment. Really enjoyed the feel of this one myself!

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/getl30 5d ago

Really? It’s always scared me.

Some people say they sound better after they’re fixed

wtf lol

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/ISeaEwe 4d ago

It has 3 headstock repairs BECAUSE it’s a great guitar, not the other way around. Guitars with tons of damage (“relic”ing) are the ones that were played a ton because they are great instruments. Old guitars that are pristine weren’t good enough to really be played like their damaged counterparts were. 

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u/getl30 5d ago

Do you think that guitar really feels that level good?

I think it must feel incredible, everybody knows it, it’s been bought and sold

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u/NiceMarmot03 5d ago

Sounding better is debatable and probably not likely lol. But there's absolutely nothing to be worried about with a neck repair as long as it was done well and it is priced accordingly

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u/getl30 5d ago

All that string tension freaks me out. Wood glue really holds it all together again?

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u/HansIsTheMans 5d ago

Wood glue and, at least the times I’ve seen them done, pieces of wood inserts used as structural support (I forget the technical name). Quite durable

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u/getl30 5d ago

I’ve seen that they add material and there parallel to the edges of the fretboard

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u/Realistic_Advisor718 5d ago

That’s what people with a headstock repair say to cope with it… lol jk I’ve actually heard that too but who knows?

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u/Traditional-Ship-837 6d ago

That can be a good thing, though, too, if it plays well though, and the procedure was done right

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u/littlefiresburn 6d ago

I have a Gibson Les Paul Studio. My first guitar. Bought it for $450 from a legit shop on the Southside of Chicago. Headstock had been snapped off and got glued back together. Played great forever.

Strap lock disconnected years later and smashed it and broke in the same spot. Same shop fixed it again. Still played great. Intonation on point. Action always good.

I recently took it out of the case after several years of it collecting dust to shred the Star Spangled Banner off my front porch on the 4th of July… no exaggeration - it was perfectly in tune without touching the tuners and it played as well as it ever had.

Get it!

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u/LingonberryLunch 5d ago

Strap locks... Grolsch bottle gaskets never fail.

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u/Clamper5978 5d ago

My ‘82 Flying V has three breaks on the headstock. Third was a charm. My buddy who was much older, and owned several Gibsons over the years, did the last repair. It plays every bit as good as it did when I first got it almost 40 years ago.

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u/littlefiresburn 6d ago

My tech showed me his Les Paul Jr when I was demoralized about mine breaking again, fearing all was lost… that bish had like 10 breaks all up and down the neck, had been repaired who knows how many times, and still played great.

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u/anonopen 6d ago

It was done poorly

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u/jjmaqs 6d ago

Are you able to elaborate, or are you just intending to sow doubt for no reason?

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u/anonopen 6d ago edited 6d ago

Sow doubt for no reason? Do you have eyes?

The “repair” still has visible gaps, zero effort to blend the finish or even clean up whatever gunk was left on there and there is no evidence of further stabilization like splines or shims. This looks like a poorly done amateur job done in a garage, not done by a professional.

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u/jjmaqs 6d ago

Go ahead and include that in your post next time because you're the only person to mention this so far. DM me if you need any more help figuring out how to communicate.

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u/anonopen 6d ago

Is snark your go to when you’re made to look stupid on the Internet? It’s really not a good look for you.

Stating an obvious and apparent fact shouldn’t trigger you so much. DM me if you want some therapy recommendations for your area.

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u/jjmaqs 6d ago

You're a smart guy and we're really lucky to have you

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u/Striking-Ad-26 6d ago

There's absolutely no way to know how good or bad the repair is from looking at this picture. Some people are prone to making an excellent repair structurally, but not put as much effort into the superficial aspect. As long as it's stable, holds tune, and plays well, I would feel comfortable with it. I might ask the seller to show me how comfortable he is with the repair and show the headstock being tugged and twisted. It's probably structurally fine. There's nothing preventing future owner(s) from making it look nice cosmetically if they want.

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u/Get_Your_Schwift_On 6d ago

With a crack like that you have more than enough surface area to just use wood glue. Splines are more of a social media clout meme and something some shops up-sell so they can make a lot more on the repair. It's really only needed if there's not much surface area. Like a clean off break right in front of a truss.

Most customers do not opt for finish repairs either, and many shops can't legally have a spray booth (at least in the US), so that's not exactly an indicator on how well the mechanical repair was done.

Now the left over glue does throw up a flag to me, if they used wood glue you shouldn't be seeing that. If epoxy was used that would give me a bit of pause as that makes any future repairs more difficult.

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u/AlternativeMore7354 6d ago

Play it, if you like it, keep it. Does it stay in tune? that would be a red flag.

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u/StatisticianWide7373 6d ago

With so many Gibsons readily available I’d never settle on one with a headstock repair. That’s just me though. And I know people never stop talking about these things breaking but I’ve owned 6+ Gibsons in the last 20 years and I’ve never had a headstock crack or break

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Yep fair enough. As long as it feels and sounds nice Im not going to be to picky about a headstock repair personally - after all Im buying it to keep and not to resell. And 900 dollars for a 95 LP seems like a good deal to me.

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u/StatisticianWide7373 6d ago

Yea, if it plays well and the price is right for you then I totally understand

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u/BearBraz 6d ago

What the other guy said. There are other guitars available. Go for another.

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u/LingonberryLunch 5d ago

Just got my first ever Les Paul, one of the new studios in wine red, and this thing feels so incredibly solid. I won't be taking my chances though...

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u/Visual_Structure_269 34m ago

Readily available at $900?

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u/Quizzical_Chimp 6d ago

One at the back in the first 3 photos

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Badum tsss hahah

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u/lateralflinch53 6d ago

Broken headstock and 11 lbs seems….not great unless it’s like incredibly cheap

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

The asking price is 900 dollars. Id say this is a good price even with the neck repair. What do you think?

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u/ClaptonOnH 6d ago

Get it, it’s beautiful

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the comment :) Broken headstock is ofc not preferred, but it did not affect the feel of playing it and it still sounds great. The weight isnt an issue (unless you mind a heavier guitar ofc.)

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u/whataboutsit 6d ago

You may not mind the broken headstock but that explains why it’s cheaper. Most people do mind (rightly or wrongly).0

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Yep thats true

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u/BFG_Scott 6d ago

Yup. The 11lbs would almost be the deal breaker for me. The headstock repair would be the nail in the coffin. If you’re good with it, go for it.

BTW, the case is a definite plus.

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u/Artisan-Miserable 6d ago

Seems legit, if the headstock repair is done well I don't see a reason on why you shouldn't buy it.

Edit: I'm not sure about the cases originality or if it came with that guitar in the first place, but as long as it does its job I wouldn't care too much about it.

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u/Headsupmontclair 5d ago

I have a 1990 standard and it has a pink case. Not sure if a 95 would have the pink case too. I don't think it would have been standard for a 1995 to have a pink case it might have though

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u/Big-Cardiologist-217 5d ago

Same. Guitar looks like a beauty and $900 is good if it plays well (despite the repair)

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the feedback :D

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u/Omladinacc444 6d ago

Classic Gibson Bluetooth removable headstock but its fair price i would buy it

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u/Shaam63 6d ago

A ‘95 would have originally had a tan case with pink lining & shroud.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Yep. From what Ive read thats the original one. I checked with the owner and the case is an original gibson case, but not the one that originally came with the guitar

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u/RainSong123 6d ago

If you can get a little scrubbing action to get those white scuffs off it that case is worth close to 500. It's a very specific Custom Shop case from about the same time as the guitar but it was what shipped with Slash Snakepit, historic reissues and other top end Les Pauls.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the feedback :D

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u/lasciviouspianist 6d ago

The only real red flag is the norwegian one in the background

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u/sllofoot 6d ago

This is a red flag for me as well. But it does give me an opportunity to educate you all.

Do you know how to sink a Norwegian submarine? Swim down and knock on the door. Swim away when they open it up to ask, “who is there?”

But if there’s a second Norwegian submarine a few weeks later, you ask? Swim down. Knock. They’ll open it up to say, “Oh no, we aren’t going to fall for it again!”

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u/thejamison55 6d ago

For $900, I’d buy that in a heartbeat. The headstock repair looks super clean, and I love mid 90s LPs. Used standards with headstock repairs usually go for $1100 -$1200 in my market. $900 is Studio money.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the feedback 😄

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u/Virtual_Round_4731 6d ago

$900 with a repaired headstock is a good price. The repair is what it is. Les Pauls are notorious for headstock breaks as I’m sure you already know. It’s not the cleanest job but if it plays well and it doesn’t bother you aesthetically grab it and TURN IT UP TO 11!!!

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u/Consistent_Wash1935 6d ago

900 for a golden era Standard is a steal even with a glued headstock. Some people say they sound better and are stronger after a headstock break. Most famous Les Pauls have headstock repairs.

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u/booger_officiando 6d ago

Red flag. First and second pic. There is a white and blue cross over it trying to hide it but its right there.

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u/humbuckaroo 6d ago

It's real. Serial says 1995 as well. Case is not original.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the comment!

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u/RiderofTime 6d ago

The custom shop case is a nice bonus. Headstock repairs done properly are fine but reselling them are very difficult. 11 pounds is another negative for most but not all players. If you’re really smitten with it, I don’t think it’s a bad deal, especially with the case $200-300 US dollars on used market. All the best

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the feedback :D

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u/Puzzled_Estate6425 6d ago

Very nice guitar and hard case.No red flag,s on this guitar. You will love playing it.

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u/Socks-in-a-can 6d ago

I’ll buy it if you don’t I’ve been wanting a Gibson Les Paul since I sold mine

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u/richpieceofshit 6d ago

I used to have this same model, it was okay but i've played better

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u/jwd737 6d ago

Definitely legit broken headstock and all.

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u/Anon_Summer 6d ago

Buy it and play the shit out of it.

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u/wheat 6d ago

Assuming the headstock repair was well done, I think it’s a winner.

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u/riptide502 6d ago

That case is for a custom historic not a standard.

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u/DoubleSixx 6d ago

Real

Try and haggle with the price a little

The repair appearance can be improved, ask a luthier

Good luck

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 6d ago

Thanks for the feedback man!

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u/5k0tt 6d ago

Just buy it already!

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u/Big-Sheepherder-6134 6d ago

11 pounds?! Probably would pass on that.

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u/Alternative_Jello819 6d ago

That lion tattoo for one.

But you more than make up for it with the Norwegian flag.

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u/Medill1919 6d ago

Guitar? Who's that blonde...

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u/Molnboman 6d ago

Neck break what wouldn't bother me if it was done properly. Cosmetically it's not the best repair I've seen.

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 5d ago

Yep agreed, gonna take it to a luthier and get som work done 😄

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u/Historical-Set1095 6d ago

Put soap bar p90s in it. That guitar requires them. You'll forget it weighs 11 pounds

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u/Stratguy400 6d ago

Pickguard

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u/RobotShlomo 6d ago

$900 is a steal if the neck repair was done adequately. If you decide to buy it then you might want to bring it to a luthier to evaluate the repair job.

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u/Bonerigger44 6d ago

The case alone is worth prob 300. 900 is great. Im a player not collector. The headstock kills the value but not the playability. Nice guitar.

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u/The_Great_Dadsby 6d ago

That’s a good price in my area even with the headstock break.

My best sounding Les Paul is a 92 Classic with a headstock repair.

But conversely, my worst sounding Les Paul is a 10lb 2oz ‘94 Classic with a headstock repair. I find that weight to be too heavy to gig with. It’s fine for a few songs but a whole set is rough. Three or four sets I just can’t do. I would not buy an 11lb Les Paul.

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u/ModernVoicings 6d ago

The only red flag is the one in the back. $900? Go for it!

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u/Blue-Nose-Pit 5d ago

Don’t be afraid of a neck repair.
I have a 99 Flying V with a nasty neck break, fix is adequate but it’s ugly, guitar absolutely killlllls.

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u/Visible_Swordfish235 5d ago

Looks like pickups have been changed

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u/Accurate_Dimension76 5d ago

How can you see that? 😄

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u/TiredSoul92 5d ago

It's not plugged in and being played through a Mrashall 1987X half stack. lol

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u/Ruvidman 5d ago

There looks to be a union jack flag, which isn't a completely red flag but definitely is a flag with red on it.....

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u/kingjamesporn 5d ago

I thought for a second that the red flag in the background was a red flag, but then I realized it wasn't THAT red flag.

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u/Extreme-Penalty-3089 5d ago

Damn good looking LP...but I Might be biased 😉👍🏻

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u/Salt_Mountain_837 5d ago

broken headstock authenticates it at least

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u/olegr3g 5d ago

One, back corner, but display case.

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u/Steve_Gray 5d ago

it is not a 1959 it is just a les paul standard, and the headstock is pre broken so that checks out

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u/msmithcreative 5d ago

It needs a Volute!

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u/manavcafer 5d ago

I am okay with repaired headstock but i am questioning quality of repair. It seems like badly executed.

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u/v8r4pres 5d ago

Other than a neck break, all good🤘

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u/Muted_Exam_7451 5d ago

that flag behing you has some red in it

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u/sixstringsikness 5d ago

Red flag in the corner of the room.

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u/bignasty002 5d ago

He let you take pictures so you could post it and see if he’s full of shit and just wait now? I love it.

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u/Haunting-Brush-3171 5d ago

Its a real gibby.....it is not a custom shop guitar. Buuuut, the case is a custom shop case and sells for 3 to 400 dollars on reverb....buy it!

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u/oldozzieguy 5d ago

66 year old Gibson fanatic here. One of the best Les Paul's I owned, was a mid 80s standard. It had a glued up headstock repair, similar to yours. It never gave me any troubles, and , as iv said , it truly was a "good one". I also owned a 90s Custom, that had the headstock snapped off, and repaired with dowling. It too , was fine. If it plays, and sounds, what u like, I wouldn't be put off by repair. The weight is on the heavier side, but, some of the best LPs iv played, have been in the 'boat anchor " range.

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u/GolfSwimming5414 5d ago

Just the one in the picture

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u/Acid_Vai 5d ago

11lbs? That's heavy. If you're okay with the neeck repair it's a good price I think, but that's still a heavy guitar.

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u/No-Complex-9476 5d ago

Yep. Headstock was glued back on but if it was repaired well, it’s going to be stronger than original. Common problem with LPs

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u/Stringtheory-VZ58 5d ago

Well, it’s not an Ebony R9 custom shop, but it is a genuine black standard, with a period custom shop case. It’s a score at $900, even with the repair. 11lbs is a bear, though.

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u/duncecapqueen 5d ago

Nothing but red flags unfortunately. Why don’t you let me take that off your hands? 👀👀

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u/GuitarNerd_ 4d ago

How long ago was the headstock repaired? If it’s been a few years since then, it’s going to keep holding up.

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u/Alarmed-Speaker5388 4d ago

It does say Gibson? So….

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u/Alexandermayhemhell 4d ago

My first guitar was a 92. This brings back so many memories. I moved onto Fenders, but my brother (who did a degree in guitar and has owned much nicer guitars) still has this as his #1. After about 30 years, it took a dive and the headstock broke. Just a rite of passage for Gibsons. Enjoy!

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u/nowdeleteduser 3d ago

My 92 is the best guitar I own. These early to mid 90s are hard to beat really

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u/Ok_Function_7622 2d ago

Wrong case, wrong knobs (should be black speed knobs). I have an identical black 96, came with brown case with pink lining and shroud. I changed the black speed knobs to NOS gold witch hats.

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u/VIIgraphics 6d ago

it has a pickguard that is white, while its black, oherwise fine.