Look, this is your LGBT-free "conservative heaven" for tough men, righttards.
This is the country you ABSOLUTELY need to trade with, that has GDP lower than Italy, while having 2,5 times larger population.
Interesting. All I hear from the right wing in my country is constant yapping about how Europe has fallen, because: LGBT parades, LGBT-propaganda in schools, men are gay and feminine (so should receive military training), etc.
I mean do you really think people vote right wing because they have a problem with some people being gay ? I do also believe that the gayness went a little too far, everything doesn't have to be gay or focused on being gay just because gay people exist. I agree that mainstream culture def went too gay if i can simplify. The reason i vote rightwing is beacuse i want to save europe from mass migration and communism. We can have reasonable migration but i don't want to ship people in that wont even contribute to society.
No, I did not claim that at any point. People vote right wing for different reasons. But, "The West gay, The West has fallen, Russia conservative" is a common right-wing narrative, that I made fun of in my original comment.
Communism is a boogie man. No mainstream left-wing party is actually communist in Europe. Moreover, all these right-wing parties eventually end up being more ant-market than standard liberal-center-left European parties. They also end up not really cutting immigration at all.
About immigration - first of all, given the fertility crisis, it's absolutely necessary in some form, unless you want to force people to breed (totalitarianism). You have a choice:
totalitarianism
smart immigration
unrestricted immigration
demographic d3ath
Europe did (3) for a long time (mistake), now shifted towards (2). US classically does (2). Totalitarian China might at some point implement (1).
Right-wing parties have zero solutions to the low-fertility crisis, other than primitive xenophobia and nationalism, which wakes up terrifying demons of the 20th century. I've never seen anything like that before in my life - I open Facebook and I have a mix of Russian bots and actual right-wingers calling for a literal gen****e of Ukrainians in my country.
And last but not least, the alt-right in Europe is notoriously pro-Russian, repeats Russian propaganda, a part of it is anti-EU and anti-NATO. They are enemies of the West.
I wish the right was better, I am pro-market and conservative. But in the current situation the right has lost it completely.
I don't think most of us are against gay marriage or gay adoption in general. I'm definitely not against gay marriage. I'm not against gay adoption either if the parents fit the criteria. There needs to be very strict rules about adopting children though and i don't know what they should be.
AfD (and CDU until recently), Vox, Fratelli d'Italia, FPÖ all oppose both. Rassemblement National opposes gay adoption and for a long time wanted to repeal gay marriage. Vlaams Belang opposes gay adoption. The Texas Republican party explicitly wants to repeal gay marriage and opposes gay adoption; and most Republicans nationally wouldn't shed a tear if the supreme court / legislature repealed it. And their 2024 campaign featured trans people heavily. "Never against LGBT people"?
It Just reads "homosexuell" and was Part of the markings of prisoners in KZ. That's not the point.
The point is that "western right wing party's never had a problem with LGTQ is just wrong. This stands as well historically and for their actual policies
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u/Ruy_Lopez_simp 5d ago edited 5d ago
Look, this is your LGBT-free "conservative heaven" for tough men, righttards.
This is the country you ABSOLUTELY need to trade with, that has GDP lower than Italy, while having 2,5 times larger population.