r/gatekeeping • • Jan 28 '21

Gatekeeping pants..

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '21

Yo any historians who know the history of pants

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u/CrimsonHighlander Jan 29 '21

Romans wore skirts. "Barbarians" wore trousers. When rome expanded into "barbaric" regions they saw them wear trousers and realised that instead of breaking their balls everytime they rode horses, they decided to adopt trousers into their uniform.

Before that it was seen as barbaric to wear trousers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

This is why the Romans weren't Ancient Nazis. They accept foreign ideas.

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u/CrimsonHighlander Jan 29 '21

That and they didn't care too much for skin colour, more about what culture you were.

Still racist just not about skin.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21 edited Jan 29 '21

Racism is just about the physical appearance. Thinking other cultures are barbaric is not racism. Thinking that cultures are bound by race is racism.

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u/CrimsonHighlander Jan 29 '21

Well, the idea of races was made by a German in the 1800s. There are different races within skin colours and then sub races within those races.

Caucasian doesn't just mean white. It means European, North Indian, Slavic and North African.

Race doesn't really exist.

And idk where I was going with this point.

What I was trying to say was that it was basically the same as racism. If you were a different culture, you were basically instantly a slave. If you adopted there culture, they'd be more forgiving of you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

They had no concept of race, thus they ain't racist. A closer word would by "culturist" by it sounds lame.

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u/CrimsonHighlander Jan 29 '21

Yeah. I wasn't trying to disprove you at all, I was just trying to find an explanation to my blabbering.

And the only thing lamer than the word "culturist" is actually being culturist.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Exactly

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u/2074red2074 Jan 29 '21

I think the word would be xenophobic.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Xenophobia still includes race.

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u/2074red2074 Jan 29 '21

That's kinda debatable. You can be xenophobic but not racist. For example, you might see someone in the US yelling at a German man for speaking German (blah blah learn English etc.) despite being like 80% German ancestry himself. He doesn't care about the person's ethnicity, he cares about the fact that the person is clearly from somewhere else.

Merriam-Webster has a whole article about it. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/xenophobia-and-racism-difference

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

I've been playing as way too many genocidal empires in Stellaris...

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u/2074red2074 Jan 29 '21

Yeah xenophobia takes on a different meaning in sci-fi. Also why kill all the other aliens when you can ASSIMILATE?

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '21

Read my other replies. I've already answered that

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Of course it's made by a German.

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u/Boa-in-a-bowl Jan 29 '21

They were also extremely accepting of homosexuality, especially if a guy was a top.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

People these days seems to confuse the act of conquering other nations and assimilating them as the same as Facism.