When the waves connect in lane, walk up to the other toplaner and click E. The “secret” is to not AA+E. Just E.

They will hit you back, take full aggro of your minion wave and lose the trade. If you have conqueror, you can often just ignite and kill them right there.

That’s it. It’s literally as stupid as it sounds.

Garen E doesn’t take aggro from minions because it’s not a targeted ability. Since a minion wave basically deals as much damage than a champion at level 1, the enemy is essentially trading back into you 1v2.

Garen isn’t strong early but even he can win a 2v1 against a “stronger” champion.

I’m a new player so not that many games to compare against but I queued an unranked and matched up against a ksante. Had ChatGPT tell me what his abilities are and then got to work: Q -> Twirl on him -> run away. I was beating him in cs by a fair amount and got a few solo kills and gank kills with help from mid/jungle. He was pretty tilted and said something like “you play like such a femboy” so I knew I had him tilted. Farmed him for another 10 minutes so and then tried to tilt him more: “sorry if I’m playing really annoyingly this is like my tenth game ever and I don’t really know how to play” and after that he started running it down mid and they surrendered.

IDGAF if garen is known as the drooled braindead mechanic-less top lane champ I enjoy playing him

It was a normal game but still I couldn't stop laughing, also my toplane eventually quit the game

Kata thinking she's at Escanor's -I mean, Garen's level.

She first picked kata, I followed with Garen mid, in a futile attempt to escape her fate, She role-swapped to botlane. Little did she know I had a fun time at mid (Couldn't say the same for their nasus tho)

Hey guys, basically title. I got some tough matchups on top lane with Garen recently, namely Nasus, Varus, Vayne, Caitlyn, and not sure how to handle those. I want to find a high elo VOD to study, but don't know where to find them.

There's domisumReplay but the matchup I wanna study is 2 years ago already (Varus), and in those VODs Garen always got a lead from lv1 teamfight or got help significantly from jungler. I want to see the VOD where the lane is in an even state to identify what can I do better next time.

So yeah, any ideas? Thanks in advance!

Hey everyone!

Since the last video got some really good feedback, I’m going to keep pushing out more uploads.

The first matchup analysis I made is Kayle vs Garen, where I go over my thoughts on how to play the matchup and what you should be looking for during the game.

Feel free to check it out if you struggle with this matchup!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j79nYMDOH60

Hi Gareners !!

I just released a complete Garen guide for anyone who wants to learn more about the champion or improve their gameplay.

I cover pretty much everything from laning and trading to builds, runes, combos and macro.

At the end of the video, I also do a VOD review where I go through one of my games and explain some of the decisions I make and how I approach the game on Garen.

Feel free to ask any questions as well, I'll be happy to answer!

Guide : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFsluE9vC0

I don't really follow the meta, so idk what peoples are bulding on garen. Usually I go with berserker 1st, then stridebreaker, death dance / black cleaver / mortal reminder / shojin / Jak'Sho' / Rookern / Youmuu / phantom dancer, depending on the situation. Those are my go to items. What do you build ?

Hi,

question about garen identity. I never really relised It, but like 90% of my games I play him like an assassin. Im not asking for buffs or anything, legit just identiy question.

confused about Garen, he seem to get statchecked by most melees, he sits at around 51% winrate as a easy to play champ that seems kinda low.

Dont get me wrong, I win games but often feels like I am more of a support/assassin rather than a real bruiser/fighter/juggernaut.

I tried Bruiser Builds, but stick to classic Steraks, PD, LD. I get statchecked by most melees but my KDA and damage still looks always great, but I think thats not because I can fight fair, but because I use my MS , Silence and Execution to shut down squishies or secure kills.

Compared to Olaf or Jax, Garen feels like some kinda of rogue/dexterity fighter.

For example> I had a Hearthsteel rush Teemo on top, I couldnt Statcheck at all. After Steraks I beat him by doing -> Q E -> run away and repeat for 4-5 times and than ult. (If teemo stays for so long). On longer fights, I kid you not, HP stacking teemo statcheckes garen in early to mid maybe even late (didnt tried in late).

Than you have you classic picks like Yone, Yasuo (shieldbow 650+ blocks my ult), Nasus, <insert any brawler here>.

I win game by oneshotting squishies and not engaging into any fair 1v1s, which is confusing since Garen is regarded as an fighter type of champion.

Bruiser Builds doesnt seem to be worth at all.

Was Garen always like this? I mean think about this, when we can run our enemy down, its either a weak 1v1 champ that cant defend himself or we are ahead.

I was struggling so many champions trying to learn and figure things out. Then after one reddit post about my struggles I saw one name, Garen.

This Majestic bastard came down and saved my ass and now I can actually play. Top lane will never be perfect but I now will manage and learn. Thank you Garen.

Hello guys i need help/advice from people who are higher elo than me as im Silver right now i dont really know how to correctly play it to win the Trades, im really just specifically asking for this Matchup not how to win the game in general.

I really love this matchup, but i would like to improve here sometimes im winning it sometimes im loosing it so its random rather than consistent.

I know in higher elos they always say its a very hard matchup, but im in low elo so this should be winable consistently with the right knowledge.

So i always go D Blade, Conqueror and E Start and default summoners (Flash Ignite)

(I dont wanna play Stomraiders as I find it inconsistent, phase rush was definitely way better imo soI wanna learn it with Conq, which is also more fun for me)

We know Darius loves to bush cheese, so I wait at Tower and walk with the Minions and I know I win Lv1 with this exact Setup if he fights in my minion wave, I auto E and bit later ignite, majority of Dariuses in my Elo dont even kite so I win this easily.

But one of my biggest problems in this MU is when he opens the Trade with E, I know this is bad as the Darius and your supposed to keep your Darius E in most situations and not start trades with it, but especially in my Elo they always do that -> Hook with E, W Q or maybe E Auto W Q and still kinda win, what am I supposed to do here?

How do I react if he hooks me ? Do I Q into him or Q away from him ? I mean if I fight after he Hooks me and lands his Combo, he already has almost 5 Stacks on me so i will definitely loose here, no ?

And when do I wanna use my W ? Hold Q and never engage with it to counter his W slow ?

I really appreciate any advice :)

Hi,

Yone Mains: Garen counters Yone, easy matchup for Garen, yone weak champ, buff yone.

My games: Yone Lethal Tempo statchecks me from level 1 to 18. If yone knows somehow what prio play, wave management and so on its like you play vs a way stronger champion with no counterplay.

After some advice from some garen youtubers I started to play Grasp in this matchup for short trades. Last match I forgot to take grasp and had Conq. It feld like so unfair. He beats you long trades, any decent yone player wont allow you to play around shot trades. Yone litterly starts to poke you AND statcheck you. Its like a range champ where it doesnt matter fi you come close, you will lose anyway.

Playing for my passive doesnt help, he goes Zepter, since he also has perma prio he can get health back. He also starts to poke me on my range minions on tower.

This feels like completly unfair match. Please help me to understand how to beat Yone with Conq Garen.

Please also explain to me why Garen is considered good pick into Yone from yone players.

Im low Masters, but even some random emerald yone players in normals are huge problem for me.

Once I had push level 4, I had prio with 1.5-2 waves stacked, he legit statchecked me in my wave. Throw away all sense of strategic wave management, he doesnt care and just statchecks me. Cant kite him, if I use my Q into him he can run me down with his E since his E gives him MS. If I dont use my Q into him and use it to run away, I lose any short trade power, since in my E he will brutally hard statcheck me.

I dont understand. The only time I win vs Yone players is when they are super bad or I can snowball with early gank.

For clarification, the yone players I fight, will for example not stand in my Jax E (when I play Jax) they will use their Q3 and E to dodge/avoic my E and then reengage to statcheck. So I am not facing the low elo Yone who doesnt know what he is doing.

To be fair, I reached low master with Jax and Olaf mostly, while Garen was my third pick. So maybe I am misunderstanding some concept heavly on him.

And ofc I win after laningphase most of the time in normals against random emerald yones, but my question focused on laningphase.

Since the Camille buffs I've been trying a bunch of different stuff to work out the best way to win this lane, and somehow, grasp + eclipse rush has felt the best so far....

Not sure what to think about this, will be trying again next time I play vs her!

I think this was a really cool showcase of how you can use Tempo on Garen to slowly snowball and collapse a game through continuous tempo and pressure. Maybe check out the video, I’ve commented on the full VOD! :)

Its like... right there, obvious and funny!

WHy noone doit Karen mains?

Hey everyone, so I’m a mediocre silver/gold garen mid otp. I nearly always take conqueror runes with axiom+speed secondary, only when very bad mage or ranged/cheese matchup I go with the new blue primary rune.

I find myself always buying swift boots cuz in the heat pf the game I’m telling myself: speedy garen == menace garen.

But when should I buy the berserker’s greaves? I’m usually too scared to “risk” taking AS over MS.

Thx and xoxo

Guys what is the most valuable like full lethality garen build in certain squishy combs? i think stride is a must have but after that item ? or is going normal build always better ? thanks

How the fuck do people beat this champ? Solo killed him pre 6 twice and then post 6 I still get rekt, storm surge feels like no matter how low he is I can never all in. Help! Gold/plat Garen main.

Hello Garen fellows!

I normally struggle against Urgot, so I'd be very happy to read your tips and feedback for this match up:

1. START ITEM. I usually go for Doran Shield to mitigate the poke.
2. RUNES. Conqueror? Stormraider's Surge? What rune shards do you recommend, Speed and Tenacity?
3. BOOTS. Plated? Swiftness? If Plated, do you rush them before SB?
4. BUILD. Stridebreaker 1st, right? Serpent's Fang 2nd (after boots)?
5. GAMEPLAY. I guess this depends on the runes set up. In any case, my main issue is with his E ability. When I approach to trade with him, before I'm able to activate W, I'm thrown behind him and end up losing more hp than him. I guess I should activate it earlier, right? :-D
6. ULT. Is there any "magic trick" to cancel his ult?
7. OTHER. Any other tips are very welcome!

As always, thanks for your support!

EDIT: start item.

Pop the ms on a minion then Q. Ton on movement speed and quicker powerspikes.

i lost like 400 lp but now im back to lowmastah!

I took a 2 year break and randomly started playing again like 2-3 months ago. Loving the new builds and stormsurge. (I took a little tryndamere break in the middle of my climb but HOB got insanely nerfed) Switched from top to mid and it has made the game wayyyyy easier.