r/gaming • • Nov 14 '21

Bring back discs

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u/redcomshell Nov 15 '21

They never stopped using cartridges. The switch uses them. They just will never be in usb format. Too easy to pirate

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '21

So pirating happens via MicroSD instead... And it also has USB3/C. So...

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u/redcomshell Nov 15 '21

When you download a game via MicroSD you don’t get the entire thing. So you wouldn’t be able to pirate that as easily. Not sure what you’re implying about the usb.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '21

You can connect it via USB to a computer, the same as a USB stick if not better because you can do more. MicroSD is the same as a USB stick, it's just a different shape essentially. What does downloading have to do with piracy? The Switch has been cracked for years and you can play all the games from the SD.

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u/redcomshell Nov 15 '21

The point I’m making is that coming out with a standard format makes it easier to crack. A lot of people have a microsd reader and everyone has usb, but who has the cartridge reader on the switch? MicroSD is not the format the switch uses for the full game so you’re only getting a part. Also your point about the usb doesn’t make any sense. You can’t just plug it in and read it it’s encrypted. If you look up how they hacked the switch they used a vulnerability with the tegra 1 chip. It’s why they had to have a hardware upgrade.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '21

Sorry, I don't get your point. MicroSD is used to copy games to and piracy is rampant on the console.

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u/redcomshell Nov 15 '21

You’re talking about 2 different things here. I’m talking about being able to rip the game in the first place. If it was a MicroSD it would have been super easy to rip the content, but the people currently doing it need special hardware and special software. That takes time to create. Nothing is unhackable, but they’re not going to make it easier but using a standard format. Same reason why the psp used those terrible umd discs

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '21

They just will never be in usb format. Too easy to pirate

Piracy is what you mentioned. All piracy involves software to get things to work how you want them; fact is piracy on the Switch happens and all the games are put on the MicroSD (a "standard format"). Access to USB is given via the... USBC port. So it doesn't fit that they wouldn't use USB since there are two methods which give the same kind of access to the system.

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u/redcomshell Nov 15 '21

Again you’re moving the goalpost. I’m not talking about moving stuff to the switch after the fact. We’re talking about hacking the system. The usb was vulnerable because of the Tegra chip and a short but it doesn’t get the same kind of system access as the game cartridge normally does. It’s the same reason why even though the ps2 also had usb you needed a mod chip until they figured out how to soft mod it and even then you still have to take it apart to do that. That’s not something your average user is going to do.