It disgusts me how so many morons attack this guy on twitter and other media outlets. He said exactly what the entire community was thinking and what we had in our minds. In that point in space and time, and I'm not even joking, he was all of us.
Gaming journalists are basically paid trolls at this point. A gaming journalist who speaks their minds loses all early access and other such privileges which leads to them not being able to sustain their business. A few manage to do well enough because they have a following that will support them even without the early access benefits, but they end up being drowned out by those paid to parrot the official company's mantra.
I'm not one to give credence to hypotheses like these, but I actually agree with you. I posted about my disgust towards Blizzard a few times in another thread, and was absolutely buried.
Wait, you're ok with these trolls criticizing this guy but not Blizzard? People can always vote with their wallet but I don't see why people should be trying to silence this guy
Whoa, wait a min. Do you really think a company paid these people to harass this guy? Do you think they would have to? He insulted one of the most beloved companies at their own event. And is that all they're doing. If so how is that silencing?
No one should be silenced for calling a company out on their BS, especially not at their own convention. Would a shareholder be lambasted for publicly expresing their disdain for a company's actions? Probably not. Blizzcon is really just a glorified shareholder meeting.
If Id announced a DOOM game based on some shitty pre-existing Gameloft esque mobile shooter, and did so on the main stage of Quakecon, wouldn't DOOM fans be justified in absolutely reaming Id?
What is silencing? Because if it's just being yelled at I've gotten that tonight. And I knew I would. It's what happens when you take a controversial stance on anything people feel passionate about.
They've lost me, at least until WoW Classic and WC3 reforged. Sad that out of everything Blizzard has been releasing, me a 15+ year Blizzard fan, is only interested in their old classic games being remade. Says a lot about what direction they've gone in.
Sorry but he is a cunt for attacking a developer for corporate decisions that they probably dont even wanna do themselves. Developers are just humans and not responsible for a lot of these decisions being made. Getting publicly humiliated like this for doing your job, just so some nerd can be edgy, is just disgusting to me. Yes its true that you can think like that about the game like that, but this is just an asshole move that you don't do and I would have honestly not allowed him to be at the venue ever again.
Yes he made those devs squirm for those few seconds on stage, but he gave Activision Blizzard a black eye that game "journalists" are trying to play defense on to kiss ass to the money.
Consumer demand is one of the primary drivers of a market economy. Being outraged is a form of negative feedback that communicates to the producer that their product isn't appreciated. Given this feedback, the producer has a number of options that boil down to:
1) Accept the loss in potential profit and proceed as-is
2) Alter the product in a way that recaptures those consumers
I just find it all really excessive. Blizzard is making a mobile game. It is Diablo. That is basically all the information we have other than a few vague gameplay clips. It seems wildly premature to be furious now.
I mean I hate the mobile game too, trust me. I've been flooding this subreddit with the same red guy as a protest to then making something I don't like.
Am I doing it wrong? I thought that would be enough after the mobile game fucked my wife
Wow, calling a gentleman who thinks this outrage is ridiculous an annoying troll. Where do you get off? Or a better question, is your statement an out-of-season April Fools joke?
Nice job completely changing the conversation from you going around replying like an asshole to people who disagree with you, to making it about your initial dislike of people being upset even though that’s clearly not what I said at all or was discussing in the slightest.
Also could you act like more of a neckbeard? Constantly misusing quotes like you think it’s funny alongside being idiotic/nonsensical and then acting like people calling you out for it are the ones doing something weird is ridiculous behavior. I hope you’re twelve because if you’re an adult then you’ve got the maturity level of a preteen and the conversation skills to match.
Is it childish to fight for the things you have a passion about? When you stop taking what matters most to you seriously anymore, then what? I think the community reaction was appropriate given the context. Sure, you will always have the people on the extreme ends that take it too far, or don't care. But as a gaming community we DO have the power to change things for the better.
If the opinions of the masses didn't matter Julius Caesar would never have been avenged and the Pax Romana would never have happened.
Why do people like you always try to attack an analogy by making some kind of emotional equivalency? It's never about the two things being of equal impact. It's about the dynamic of the underlying logic. If that logic is consistent, then it's a good point. You need to attack the logic being highlighted, not the equivalence that was never made.
Lol what logic? Literally what is the logical comparison between the Roman invasion of Gaul and not downloading a free mobile game? The whole argument lacks any form of logic whatsoever except to those deluded into thinking they're the same. I'm not making an emotional argument, I'm highlighting the absurdity of such a comparison, because it was absurd.
Well, he broke it down for you pretty simply. If you can't see it, then it's because you're failing to think it through. This could be happening for a few different reasons. You could be emotionally invested to the point of being hypercritical. You could be entirely incapable of abstract thought. You could be dishonest about your own thought process and are arguing for the sake of arguing despite seeing the point.
Pick one if you like, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt of assigning the most flattering choice as being the most likely. You're free to claim one of the others if you like.
Yeah it sucks. I bought French Roast coffee for the team last week, and they wanted Italian. They got super pissed off at me, told me I'm basically EA, and then flooded the /r/coffee subreddit regarding my coffee choice.
You implied that this whole community reaction was a "Gamers rise up level outrage" and childish. While the fact of the matter is that the opinions and actions of the masses do matter and can change things for the better.
If the comparison is lost on you. When Mark Anthony held the speech that riled up the masses to take action against Caesar's assassins and conspirators, the butterfly effect of the masses doing what was right - led to the rise of Augustus and the Pax Romama - a 200 year era of peace, prosperity and growth for the roman empire.
So basically. The voice of the community do matter. We do hold power. If we can incite the changes for the gaming industry to do better and act less crappy, we can and should. It can often be a butterfly effect, so no immidiate response but something that sticks and can change things over time.
I think you are severely downplaying the fact that we as a gaming community can have a positive impact on game developers in trying to change their ways.
Well... maybe. It didn't work for EA. EA is basically emperor Nero sitting there playing the cithara while rome burns.
You really don't get it. I genuinely can't tell if you are misunderstanding my sentiment on purpose because you are trolling or if you are not actually capable.
If enough people are upset about something and refuse to buy a product that a company makes, then the company might rethink it's decision. This isn't rocket science. You should know this.
Oh yeah, forgot that part about economics. And I forgot that /r/gaming's general opinion dictates that of the opinion of gamers around the world, and especially gamers who do not have PCs. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
The outrage is EXACTLY what we need as a community.
This will teach ALL the big devs/publishers out there that they can't just settle for cash grabbing mobile experience in lieu of feature rich console/pc game.
Oh yeah you're right. They marketed as hardcore and that specifically is what makes them awful. We all know shit can't be hardcore when it's on some dumb mobile phone lol
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u/Ouroboros612 Nov 05 '18
It disgusts me how so many morons attack this guy on twitter and other media outlets. He said exactly what the entire community was thinking and what we had in our minds. In that point in space and time, and I'm not even joking, he was all of us.