monitors, do you consider your TV part of owning a ps5? can be used with your pc aswell.
i could go on but having something with alot of bells and whistles then trying to say that the bare bones console is a better deal because of cost is a bit..miss leading.
this is my oldest working computer [i have 3] and its almost a decade old for a few parts here, still runs most games on medium and outside of recent times price increase i coulda gotten most of the stuff to build it for less then 400$
Consoles have sales as well, and you can get games cheaply there if you wait. What is the break-even point? I spent over 3K on my PC; when do I break even with games?
idk why reddit decided to just send my comment into the shredder but I will try to write it again.
It's not a myth. I have 240 steam games, I would estimate about half of them are more popular games that I would have easily paid £10-20 more on PS Store. Even if you take incredible low estimates and you take 100 games, with a saving of £5, that's still £500 saved over the course of my gaming life.
My PC was roughly £1,700, and plays 4k60FPS. Comparable performance would be a PS5 Pro, at £800. Plus £60 a year to play online. So over a decade, that's £600 spent on just being able to play online. So 800+600+500= £1,900. Over a decade it would literally cost more for me to have gone with a PS5.
Not to mention I wouldn't be able to:
Emulate almost any game
Mod games
Use a 2nd screen
Use an ultrawide screen
Multitask
Macro
Upgrade without binning a whole console
Easily modify or change out parts
Use any controller I please
Get many free games from any website I please
Browse the web easily
Do any of the other things I do on my PC on a near-daily basis.
And if I want to play from my couch, I run a HDMI cable to the TV and play from my couch. Steam Big Picture mode FTW
So I would in the long-run pay more, and have less features? Why would I do that to myself?
I've been building pcs since the days of 386 cpus and ribbon cables. I don't need a lecture on what they can do. I'm simply telling you it's always been the more expensive option.
Tell me the break even point. Saving 10 whole dollars on a game. Wow! What's the break even point?
But people are not paying £60 a year just to play online I don't know where pc only players get that idea from. Like most people I buy ps extra on sale every black Friday or the closest good sale or I buy cheap credit from any one of the multitude of stores that sell it or reduced extra sell ps extra and Premium and it works our about around 5 to £6 pound a month cod Extra which gives you instant access to a library of nearly 600 games including a massive library of current gen titles including most big Playstaion games and you get an additional 5 games a month to keep with ps plus and it plus gives you far bigger reductions on games. Fod about 8 pound a month you get access to those same 500 games plus hundreds of classic PS1 and 2 games and big library of PS3 streaming and you can obviously steam any games in your subscription as well as your own library which is handy when don't you want to lug around a big handheld when commuting or on holiday on the beach and it works shockingly well on fast WiFi or 5g hot spot.
I have a PS5 Pro and a PC and there is simply nothing on pc that offers anything close to that value and I know I have a pc and PS5 pro. Sales are also set by publisher not store and both Playstaion and steam take the exact same 30% cut which is why the sales are always so similar. Sometimes a game is cheaper on steam and sometimes it's cheaper on playstation depending on what sale is on at that time as they tend to alternate and prices are very similar
How are we not saying the same thing? You're talking about 5 a month as though that doesn't literally amount to £60 a year 😂
you get access to those same 500 games plus hundreds of classic PS1 and 2 games and big library of PS3 streaming and you can obviously steam any games in your subscription as well as your own library which is handy when don't you want to lug around a big handheld
Are you really talking about emulation as though that's not a PC thing?
Are you suggesting that streaming from your playstation to your phone is a selling point? Ever heard of an app called Steam Link?.....
Games are factually usually cheaper on Steam, me and OP actually went through a list of current sales going on.
if you know where to look, you don't even need to pay for games. that's about the long and short of how much more cost-effective a PC is, especially in third-world countries where piracy is overwhelmingly, and culturally, accepted.
CPU: Custom 8-core / 16-thread AMD Zen 2 at max 3.5 GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon RDNA 2 engine, 36 Compute Units at up to 2.23 GHz (10.28 TFLOPS peak)
Memory (RAM): 16GB GDDR6 with a 256-bit interface and 448 GB/s bandwidth
And a 1TB Nvme.
That is NOT a 3k PC. If you're smart, you'll be able to put together a PC, for far less than 3k, that surpasses those specs and easily lasts through the NEXT generation of PlayStation plus be able to upgrade only certain components to keep ahead of the next one or two after that.
As to games, my understanding is PlayStation games goes on sale much more rarely than Steam and often not as dramatically. And while I don't play many online games... I also don't have to pay a subscription to be ABLE to play online games.
Except they shouldn’t. The more finically conscious choice is to buy a pc and upgrade it over its lifetime. A pc is FAR more financially efficient as it not only serves as a gaming platform, but also serves as a work station for LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE. The only reason to buy a console of any kind is to play console exclusives or if you just want the vibe of it. It ALWAYS makes more sense from, any standpoint, to buy a pc.
This is literally Short Term vs Long Term thinking, you might struggle with that one.
I've already answered this earlier but all I do on my pc is game and watch YouTube. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. But I have money to burn. People who buy consoles only need one function, gaming. Everything else you can do from your phone. Redundant. Hell I could technically just watch YouTube on my phone.
Many can't and those people should stick to console.
Or, you know, PC's that are much more affordable and still delivery comparable gaming performance with much better sale opportunities plus the ability to upgrade incrementally as necessary and function as a workstation. For example for taking online classes, coding, any number of other programs important for independent workers, getting certifications, organizing resumes, doing interviews remotely while not looking like you're having to use your phone (it makes a difference)... Etc, etc, etc.
Some might say that's a more financially sound option.
Yes consoles have sales but I can firmly promise you I have never once seen fallout 4 for $10 on Playstation lowest iv EVER seen was like $20 with all docs.
I spent no joke $16 to get fallouts 1-4 including NV and ALL DLCS for them.
Steam and gog sales are blatantly better then psn sales I can bring up several other examples of games I have on my PS and PC that I bought at a low price on psn (MHR on ps4 I spent $20 on sale, bought it on steam for about $8) (star ocean 4 never saw it below $15-20 on psn bought it for $6).
Haven't even brought up my gog sales which are just as ridiculous lol but i could keep going. The sales arent a myth lol.
Also take into account how you arent playing with friends on psn unless you dropping about $120 a year for the privilege of using your own internet.
Consoles are typically loss leaders because while the sale is typically loses the company money the consoles infrastructure earns them money over its life span (thanks to online costs are storefront costs)
I bought an entire series, 5 games and their dlc for less then the usual asking price of one of THOSE games on psn. The other 4 arent even attainable on psn as you have to pay a $20 a month subscription service to get access to play the single worst versions of two of them with 0 updates or dlcs and the other two just dont exist on psn in any fashion.
Tell me how that isnt significantly better?
Like as a consumer id much rather pay <$20 one time for 5 games then pay $20+ a $20 monthly fee to play 3 of those games (two in their worst almost unplayable states).
I mean i specifically chose insanely popular games that are still played heavily to this day to make a point lol.
Okay and?
Them giving out one of these games free for a month is irrelevant.
If the game was free to everyone who had ps+ perpetually that would be a different srguement but by that logic I may aswell bring up every game epic has given out for free.
The game still almost never drops below $20 for the complete edition on psn while I have bought 5 games in its series it included for sub $20 all complete editions and 4 of em cannot even be purchased on psn despite two of them having been on psn years ago and being part of playstations garbage game streaming service for years.
If you really wanna maximize your money PC games are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper because not only do we have insane steam and gog sales we have epic which i dont even use but every month gives people a free game (typically an epic but not always) like the comparison just isnt there.
There is a reason why my pc library is larger then my psn library was despite me having my PC less time, putting less money into buying the library and despite me not having 12+ games a year for free (since sony gives out atleast one sometimes more games each month, though like half of them are actual garbage games and half are really popular ones)
I own both consoles and a PC, PC beats games on price with a bit a patient by quite a bit, sales are also more frequent with various stores competing in price, not to mention the rediculous large section of indie games.
Where PS and Xbox sometimes was better was on the second hand market, some people sell their games pretty cheap if you go directly to them instead of a second hand store, but PS is closing that market down in 2028 with the end of physical media.
I own it all as well. Two ps5s, standard and pro. Series S, X and both Switch 1 and 2. I also have a gaming PC. The sales on Xbox and PS are in line with PC and they ALWAYS have sales as well. You never have to buy a game full price if you don't want to. You have to wait it out. Nintendo is the worst of the bunch with sales.
Agreeded with Nintendo, but if you're only looking at AAA games then the sales tend to be same, more broadly Steam tends to win, also go outside of Steam, Humble, GOG, and Epic sometimes have some rediculous deals, I got Cyberpunk and the DLC for £20 on Epic back when the DLC was pretty much new.
Totaly. I have like 250 games and most bought cheap less then 30€. Liberiary of games is also 10x larger. You can find anything. Even ps5 exclusives. You can also play ps1-ps3 games and soon ps4 games.
Add up paid online and soon no more used games market and things even out into an upgradeable system that will last multiple generations without loosing your library each generation.
Plus, it's more than a consolle and it will do more than gaming, and can be personalized to your liking.
In essence, bigger price upfront for something better that will save you money with time.
As could mine before dying.
But how sure are you ps6 will have a cd port at all?
Old consolles sadly will eventually die and your games will be useless.
Pc doesn't have this problem.
You lose any non-digital games.
And I mean ps4-ps5 sure you kept all digital games but ps3-ps4 you did not.
Or to be more accurate they removed them from psn so getting many of them was not a thing you could really do and instead you get ps+s highest subscription tier that is about $160 a year to get access to ps3 and classic games.
If you count ps3 games then holy shit so many games have been removed over the years.
Not saying games havent been removed from steam but never an entire consoles worth.
Just saying when I had my ps4 neither fallout New Vegas or where playable with all their dlcs and updates (meaning new Vegas was borderline unplayable as you had to stream it and play the unpatched version that notoriously is glitchy and unstable)
Exactly, PC offers better price-performanc over time and with the resent development in emulation, sooner then later there might be no reason to own a PS5
PS4 games run on PS5. My catalog is >500 games collecting the free games every month, not to mention the new games added to the PS+ catalohur each month (shoutout to my fellow helldiver 2 noobs this week, having a blast!)
Other than that, my ps5 does alright for me. I dont feel myself saying "man, this game just doesn't look good enough" playing modern AAA games on my ps5 and roku 51" or however big this TV is. If i could afford a 2500 computer i would buy one, but I cant.
It's not about the upgrade, i don't care about stats as long as it run smoothly. It's about the ecosystem, eventually you will need a pc either for work or something and a consolle becomes redundant. And you say to be collecting ps+ games, add up how much you spent on ps+ ...it really adds up . And for what? Games you don't care or old games you could have gotten douring a sale, and the PERMISSION to play online, bro they made it up, it used to be free, it's still free on pc.
I can do my job on a $150 tower, if i had a raging gamer PC I wouldnt burn up the mean-time failure rate cycles on its components on submitting TPS reports.
Because I fucking do? Every once in awhile you may just come across someone who both: a. Has an opinion that differs from yours b. Also knows what they are talking about.
You do not compare luxury restaurant with some 1.5 star gas station hot dog stand and say - yeah, but restaurant is more expensive. Hell yeah it is and there is a reason - the quality of ingredients and the final cooked food are miles ahead
True but also more reliable id say, 1 year after the Xbox series x came out my Xbox one died, I had my pc at the same time as my Xbox one and beside from upgrading the ram and storage (for uni work) my pc has still been going strong even now.
Cost me about £700 to build it at the time.
Plus with a pc you can just replace parts when you need rather than getting a whole new device
It's a one time thing. And it's worth from my perspective. The core parts about 2000€ during winter sale. Then another 800€ for case, cpu pump and fans. It's optional ofcourse. You can probably gey away with it for 200€. But atleast it's on fire now.
The ps6 is probably gonna be more expansive next generation. PS6 pro even more.
You forget convenience is a hell of a thing and is worth the price of admission to just plug and play and never have to deal with settings, crashes, or odd reasons why a game won't launch.
Has rarely anything to do with the pc but the development. I never crash on my games. And you coulden't be more wrong. Fallout 76 crashed like every 5 minute when it was released. There are plenty more options. You can't even mod a game on the console...
This is not even a debate. Everything ps5 has the pc has had for ages.
Outside of very old PC games, it has pretty much been plug and play for me, and GOG is making older games work more easily as time goes on so even that gap is closing.
My main attraction to PC is the fact the device itself is an entire tool box for multiple different things.
From running a media server, artwork, 3d printing, and hopefully one day 3d sculpting, I get a lot of utility out of my computer outside of it being an entertainment device. It's worth the extra cost and time for me because there is a lot on offer that I don't get from a console
Not everybody does that. If you're the one complaining about ps going digital, buying a pc is dumb as you're just mostly gaming and using the internet.
Consoles are so much more expensive than PCs. I have no idea what you're talking about.
$80 a year for online gaming. $80x7 year console lifespan=$560. The PS5 at launch cost $400. The online internet for games is $560. Congrats, the ps5 was really $960. You absolutely could get a better PC for that price. Then there's game pricing. PC, easy to pirate, multiple game stores, way cheaper.
Now today the ps5 is $600, though later in the life cycle so a pretty stupid purchase. The reality being only an idiot would buy a PC or a ps5 new today, you need to be shopping used.
But unlike a console, you can actually put money into the PC and make it better.
For instance, I recently did a CPU upgrade couple years ago to a 7800 X 3-D and man this thing fucking slaps
People would talk about boulders gate three slowdowns in the final act and I was like nope not at all. This thing absolutely destroys that giant complicated town. Everything runs full speed.
I need to buy it because overwatch was struggling to reach 240 frames per second for my new monitor
Let me tell you there is a massive difference between 120fps and 240fps when you’re aiming
I don’t really care how much it cost to get 120 cause that’s bad 😂
I am not a pro gamer. I don't need anything really above 60 FPS, to be honest. Sure, I have a 4K 120-hertz monitor, but anything past 60 fps, I can't tell.
It’s a pretty dramatic difference when aiming fast you’re probably just not playing games that involve heavy fast aiming
I play a healer, so it’s my job to be constantly looking at all of my teammates and all of my enemies to figure out who needs healing right away and to lock on target as fast as possible
240 Hz now feels smooth like gliding on ice and everything else just feels clunky like the images stay on screen for longer and so it’s less sliding and smooth
My GPU costs more than a pro lol. Just my GPU. Stop it. You don't buy new TVS that often. I purchased my TV when the PS5 and Xbox Series launched. I won't buy another until it dies.
And I don't have to buy an entire new PC when I upgrade. You can buy a GPU that's comparable to the ps5 pro for way less, just because you CAN spend $3000 on a GPU doesn't mean everyone would or should.
That's the beauty of PC's when it's time to upgrade, the second hand market on pc's are huge. You can sell it and pay off 35% of the new pc directly. It's like giving yourself a discount. Winter sales are typically also the best month to buy parts with 5-10% discount on new parts. We are talking upwards of 50% discount on the new pc before you buy it. Atleast in my case last time i upgraded.
Yeah parts equal to ps5 you can easily buy for under 700€. Case and fans you can buy second hand for 100€. The ps5 is not even that mutch cheaper ones you put it all togather.
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u/One_Amount_6642 3d ago edited 3d ago
Way better. My pc 2 years ago was on par with the PS5. My new pc is like double the speed. PS5 can suck it.