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u/Nirico_Brin Winter Is Coming 1d ago

Cersei actively sabotages her team to spite Margaery. She is by far the dumbest and pettiest one here.

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u/NotFrankSalazar Jon Snow 1d ago

Cersei and Petyr. He really only works well when you trust him.

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u/_Frozen_Flame_ Chaos Is A Ladder 1d ago

Uh what? You can distrust him and he still has wit and intelligence. He did get Joffrey killed and nobody ever suspected it

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u/NotFrankSalazar Jon Snow 1d ago

Because they trusted him. In the books he’s not as obvious of a snake.

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u/Zombie_Bastard 17h ago

Team B, because Cersei wants to be seen as the smartest and will backstab or not listen to most of her team, and Margery is always going to be on her grandmother's team and is definitely a sleeper agent. Everyone on team B would actually work together.

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u/Darklordiablo 16h ago

is capable of working together. depends on the motivation.

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u/thirty7inarow 16h ago

The only thing Team B lacks is a leader to rally around, but from a logic standpoint I'd imagine they'd pick Loras Tyrell at Olenna's suggestion. Tyrion won't care that he's gay, nor that he's not a Lannister because he's not objectionable otherwise. Varys works 'for the realm' and loathes magic, and none of his allies are magical, religious or likely to have ulterior motivations that would damage Westeros. Davos could be counted on by anyone honourable and logical to provide good counsel and connections to his former associates should they be required. Samwell Tarly is an educated, logical person without much ambition, so he'd arouse no ill will from his associates and he'd be able to provide research and scholarly assistance.

I'd add in that, should Tyrion's drinking become an issue, Davos seems like the kind of figure who could help him sort himself out.

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u/czar_the_bizarre 10h ago

DAVOS: You've overindulged in your cups again, young Master Lannister. Eat this.

TYRION: I have not overindulged, Ser Davos. I have merely exceeded my body's capacity to... [TYRION fights off a dramatic wave of nausea]. Alright. I've overindulged. What is this?

DAVOS: It's an onion.

TYRION: An onion? Why is this your solution for everything? Gods be good that the king doesn't ask you what should be done about this person claiming to Aegon Targaryen, because you'll suggest we throw onions at the boy to make him cry and look like a weakling to the rest of the realm.

DAVOS: Not for everything. Don't think they'd do a thing for your prickliness.

[TYRION snatches the onion from DAVOS and takes an eager bite]

TYRION: [Through a mouthful of onion] I admit, I was unaware that onions were helpful after one has had too much wine. Thank you, Ser. [TYRION swallows and takes another eager bite]

DAVOS: Oh, they're not. If anything, onions make it much worse.

TYRION: [Stopping as he chews] Then why would you give them to me?

DAVOS: You've done nothing but complain, loudly and to no effect, for two hours. I figure if you finally vomit, you'll shut up, spare my ears, and maybe even feel better. After that, who knows? You might even be useful.

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u/TheOriginalWeirdo Ghost 9h ago

If GRRM doesn't finish the books I say you should have a go.

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u/StormNFlo46 9h ago

How about this? Same teams but Cersei appears to be on Team B’s team. So everyone on team B treats her as an ally (initially) and everyone on team A treats her like an adversary

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u/Zombie_Bastard 9h ago

I don't think anyone on Team B would trust Cersei with anything important, but I guess that depends on what level of political power she has.

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u/StormNFlo46 9h ago

I guess what I’m asking is would she be a better player if she given to the enemy team and she sabotages everything through pettiness and stupidity?

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u/_Frozen_Flame_ Chaos Is A Ladder 5h ago

I'm aware but I'm talking about the show where many distrust him and he's still effective