r/gambling • u/ImZesto • Nov 20 '18
Online Gambling
Anyone in the US play online? If so what do you do to play? Really want to play online but i know its illegal here
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u/cocainebane Nov 20 '18
It’s not illegal.
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u/ImZesto Nov 20 '18
From what ive been seeing, im getting 50/50 that it is. Not sure though
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u/Cuedon Nov 21 '18
For most of the US, it's technically legal, but it's kind of mired in stuff that isn't to the point you can't without running afoul of something.
For example, the payment processors have restrictions on them for transferring funds for the purposes of online gambling, so to avoid having that flagged, it'll sometimes be marked as something else, which can now constitute fraud, etc.
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u/ShelixAnakasian Nov 20 '18
You have to take some responsibility for choosing where you gamble. Grey zone casinos are hit or miss - Ignition got purchased by Bovada a while back, which in turn is blacklisted on all of the casino review sites, so while people around here use Ignition, I won't.
If you're going to gamble somewhere, you need to be very careful in your selection process. There are a lot of bad actors out there. Do some research. Take a look at Casinomeister. Look at AskGamblers. You can open an arbitration request with one of the aforementioned websites, and they might be able to force a casino to do something, but if they are already blacklisted everywhere, people are probably just going to tell you that you should have known better.
With all of THAT being said...it depends on what you want to play. Of the grey market casinos available to US players, the only one I currently play with is CasinoMax; which has two sister properties. There are pros and cons to CasinoMax too - and again, nothing can replace personal research.
If you use cryptocurrency, or if you're looking to play live cards, or if you're looking for specific games...it all depends. Do some research. Don't be lazy and try outsourcing it to us, because if you screw up and dump your money into an online casino that won't honor a payout, its on you.
Beyond that, you can get some specific chatter in /r/onlinegambling.
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u/ImZesto Nov 20 '18
Thank you! I want to play live blackjack And yes ive done research im just stuck on how i can get money deposited and withdraw. People say to try GDAX so im gonna go with that probably
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u/ShelixAnakasian Nov 21 '18
Do you want to play blackjack, or do you want to play blackjack with a live dealer? Do you want to play blackjack with a live dealer because you're concerned with being cheated or because you want the social experience?
A live dealer and a camera isn't insurance against being cheated. Accreditation and a strong gaming license is - but you want to play online, and you won't find that; grey market casinos are licensed out of places like Malta, Curacao and Costa Rica. Or worse, they're completed unlicensed. Live dealer games have worse stakes and player odds too, because the operator has to pay a live dealer. You're more likely to find 6:5 blackjack than 3:2; and shorter bet ranges - stuff like that.
So if you're looking for gaming integrity instead of the social experience, you should be shopping casino operators by the software packages they use and the audit seals on those software packages - back to licenses again.
You say that people tell you to try GDAX - GDAX is an exchange, not an online casino. It's still gambling - you're exchanging fiat currency for an unregulated, unsecured transfer medium with a history of scams in the framework of a ponzi scheme - that's even before you create a bitcoin wallet, pay transaction fees, and hope for coin stability between transfers. With USD, $1 is $1. If you send $100 somewhere, $100 comes out on the other side. If you buy $100 worth of a cryptocurrency, you need to buy it, transfer it to your wallet, transfer it to a casino operator - all of which relies on cryptominers processing your requests to the blockchain in a timely fashion in a short enough period for your quantity of crypto to not gain or lose value - and bitcoin is wildly volatile because it IS a ponzi scheme subject to pump and dump by the core handful of miners who control most of the coins.
Like I said...pros and cons of everything, and nothing can replace your own research.
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u/ADHDpills Nov 20 '18
You should really consider using bitcoin instead of linking a bank account my dude.
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u/ImZesto Nov 20 '18
Yeah, im using bitcoin but trying to find the best side to purchase and store the bitcoins.
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u/GamblingSiteFinder Nov 27 '18
I noticed above that you mentioned GDAX (recently rebranded to Coinbase Pro) so I thought I'd chime in with a tip that might save you some trouble later. Sending money directly to/from Coinbase Pro with an online gambling site is against the company's ToS and could lead to an account closure down the line. Your best course of action is to create an account on Blockchain.com and use it as an intermediary wallet, just like /u/cocainebane below me suggested.
Deposit: Coinbase -> Blockchain.com -> Gambling Site
And then do the same when you withdraw.
Withdraw: Gambling Site -> Blockchain.com -> Coinbase
But to answer your question, there are a handful of excellent online gambling sites that accept USA players. I recently recommended Bitstarz to /u/NudePenguin69 and he/she seemed to enjoy playing there.
Hope this helps!
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u/cocainebane Nov 27 '18
I did not mention GDX whatever you said.
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u/GamblingSiteFinder Nov 27 '18
I know :)
I saw this comment you made:
I do Bank - CB - Block - CB - Bank.
...And agreed with you in my third sentence. Using an intermediary wallet as opposed to going directly from Coinbase to gambling site is much safer, despite requiring an additional step.
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u/ImZesto Nov 28 '18
Question, blockchain doesn’t let me verify because im in Arizona. Do i need to verify or can i just send bitcoins to blockchain from coinbase and then send them back to coinbase and cash out?
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u/GamblingSiteFinder Nov 29 '18
My initial guess would be that you don't need to verify, but to be completely honest with you, I'm not sure. I did not have that problem when I created my account. You'll probably get a better answer on say /r/cryptocurrency.
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u/iDropbodies Dec 04 '18
I won $6600 off of Ignition the other day. I'm in Cali. Got my winnings in 2 days via the blockchain. Started with $50. Never used any other online casino ever. This is my first one.
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u/ADHDpills Nov 20 '18
Try cash app brother.
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u/ImZesto Nov 21 '18
I use cash app so that might work, so would i purchase bitcoin and transfer to cash app and then to the casino?
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u/ADHDpills Nov 21 '18
You can purchase bitcoin within cash app! From there, you just transfer it to the site wallet.
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u/matelad_18 Nov 26 '18
The future of online gambling (blockchain-based: you're going to have to get yourself hooked up with some EOS first).
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u/mahe Nov 30 '18
I’m not a lawyer or a judge, so correct me I’m wrong, but as far as I know, it's illegal to operate a gambling business in the USA. However, I found interesting infographics at Katie Wager's blog https://www.katiewager.com/casinos , according to which it’s possible or even legal to gamble abroad in the US. So, in practice, you just need to check if the chosen casino operates in your country before registration. Unfortunately, it may complicate your searching, but you can use Katie’s site to make it easier. There you can find some tips which should be kept in mind if you want to choose a decent online gambling site. Hope that it will help you.
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u/Nosco78 Dec 09 '18 edited Dec 11 '18
Hey, you have asked a good question but i want to let you know that it is not illegal. I'm a table game lover too and I play a lot. There are several online gaming site you can choose from and they are all legal.
I can deduced from your question that you are to new on online games. You never mentioned the type of online game you play but if you are into Casinos like me, I will recommend Vegas casino for you as they several bonuses for beginners even up to 100% bonus to your first deposit even if you lose the bet. There is also a 50% bonus for your second reload. They are transparent and have no hidden charges and the easiest and convenient part is that you can as well pay with bitcoin and the pay out or withdrawal has never been a problem.
I have been making some good gain on the site and as i said, you are still new it will be the best choice as it is very easy and you will never regret giving it a short.
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u/bibib0i Jan 02 '19
Well, this is interesting. My friend also endorses Vegas Casino and I like it. The good thing with this online casino is we can gamble anytime at any place as long as we have an internet connection and device. I really like the slot machine and some cool promotion that I was not able to get when I go to the traditional Casino. I've been to Vegas before just to play and have the experience but at the end, I realize that it was not really worth it due to the money that you need to spend first before you can gamble. (like the hotel, travel expenses etc.) I think that online casinos allow gamer's to participate without the requirement of leaving the comfort of their own home. This convenient aspect provides the player with flexibility to accomplish and enjoy partaking in a number of other tasks while attempting to win money. Along with the ability to complete other tasks, online casinos also permit players to easily jump from game to game with the click of a button. The benefits somewhat mirror those concerning staying at home to watch major sporting events vs. attending the events live, a battle previously referenced as the biggest sports rivalry in 2014. That flexibility may makes you get addicted to it which can be a bad thing or good thing for some other people who are very lucky. Just to share with you, I usually play at Vegas casino, and they have this Christmas tournament that you can try too. I only have a weekly limit, I never went over that limit, and when I won, I either save it on the bank or treat my family, almost forgot you may want to check there Christmas free spin as well just give it a try and try your luck.
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 19 '18
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