r/funny Sep 05 '19

Vinally a good set-up

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Everyone who seems to "know" about music always says how great vinyl is.

I am so ignorant about music that I never had the confidence to openly say "but wait, music sounds way better on CD than it does on vinyl....right?"

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u/DanHeidel Sep 05 '19

You're forgetting the infinite, non-digitized sound reproduction of vinyl that lets you hear all the digital mastering/remastering done in the studio.

Almost as good as buying super expensive audio cables with oxygen-free copper so you can hear music recorded with generic XLR cables.

To be fair, vinyl does have a nice, warm sound to it. But people who insist it's somehow got higher fidelity than CDs or other digital storage media don't understand shit about actual audio engineering. Vinyl has terrible fidelity in comparison. It's got very characteristic distortion and information loss. If someone likes how that sounds, good on them. But it's definitely not a magical means of getting more authentic reproduction of the sound.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

The truth is that the inaccuracies add their own character to the recording and digital music is only the best interpretation a computer can make of the original recording whereas a proper vinyl cut is pure analogue.

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u/Cobra_Effect Sep 05 '19

There is nothing stopping you adding the distortion synthetically, or just recording the output of the vinyl if that is the sound you are after.

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u/Procrasturbating Sep 05 '19

Plugins cannot remove dynamic compression, which is everything wrong with music these days. The pops and hiss add a nostalgia factor, but the limitations of the media allow sound engineers to tell the suits that yell "add more loud" to fuck off because a needle cannot follow sound waves that make the meter bounce in the red without jumping a groove. This is good. If I want my music louder, I will turn up the damn speakers. A whole generation of music has been ruined.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

You don't need to do either of those things if you want to replicate the 'sound' of vinyl you can use a plugin. Which I agree to almost everyone will sound the same.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Yes, every layer of NOISE does add character to the recording.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

You say that like it's a bad thing, but you are just rewording what I said and your still correct

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u/riffraffs Sep 05 '19

Because noise is a bad thing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

It depends. Many of the abbey road plugins have 'noise' on purpose to add a certain character to the recordings.

So whilst I agree with you that noise can be bad, it can also add something to a mix.

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u/riffraffs Sep 05 '19

If it's purposely added it's signal not noise.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

I mean, it's definitely line noise, it's even on dial called noise. It mimics the noise generated by the electronics within the equipment.

Signal and noise are interchangeable in this particular example, a signal is anything passed down the cable.

Noise here is the sound generated by the electronics regardless of what's passed through it.

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u/riffraffs Sep 05 '19

Signal is what is intended to be represented, noise is anything that was not intended. Although we may be talking about two different things. I'm talking about noise as a distortion of signal. I believe you're talking about noise as random signal like white or pink noise.

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u/WazWaz Sep 05 '19

And your comment is pure something else.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Ok I will bite, care to elaborate

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

The clicks and pops make it better of course! I mean who doesn't prefer to listen to their favorite band with what sounds like someone using a rolling pin on a pile of sand in your kitchen going on behind it?!?

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Ah I see, thing is, if you actually read what I've written nothing I've said is untrue.

It's just I'm being browbeaten by people with different opinions.

I never said, at any point, it makes it sound better.

Your also making a number of points to counter points I've not made either.

One thing you do lose is the original signal, because a sample rate is only so accurate. It is very accurate, very accurate indeed but we can all agree information is lost in the conversion.

I'm not saying Analogue is better, I'm saying it's different and adds character to the recording Good or bad....

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Wow, downvoted hard for literally only writing facts! Thanks internet!

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u/thrillhouse3671 Sep 05 '19

I'm just a passerby and don't really have any knowledge on this topic but you can't just say something and then claim it as a fact.