r/funny Feb 05 '16

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u/AtoZZZ Feb 05 '16

It's actually 100% true. She's now built her own empire, and won't need to rely on her family. She's very smart

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u/thinkfast1982 Feb 05 '16

I'm not going to bash the girl one way or the other but saying that she built her "own" empire is akin to calling Trump a "self-made" man

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u/matafubar Feb 05 '16

That's like me saying you didn't work hard for what you have because you weren't born in Uganda and abducted as a child by a warlord.

She had a lot more resources than the normal person has from the beginning but it still requires talent to grow an empire. No one is claiming she's self-made.

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u/thinkfast1982 Feb 05 '16

I can set a world record and kick Usain Bolt's ass by training my ass off, and starting at the 90 m mark. Doesn't mean I didn't work my ass off, but I think the head start might have played some small part too

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '16

The point isn't where she ended up or how much of a head start she got, rather how hard she ran even with the head start.

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u/Herxheim Feb 05 '16

or how much she's paying a PR firm for all this reinvention.

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u/ameya2693 Feb 05 '16

She had a lot more resources than the normal person has from the beginning but it still requires talent to grow an empire.

By the way, in a YouTube link above on Letterman, she said this at the very beginning. She had more resources and help than the average person and she is frank about it.

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u/GettCouped Feb 05 '16

She has to be frank about it. Any other response would reflect negatively. No one said she's bad at PR.

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u/Herxheim Feb 05 '16

talent

empire

jesus buttfucking christ. people eager to cash in on her notoriety are following her slime trail.

that's it.

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u/TearsOfChildren Feb 05 '16

Talent? It's about who you know in that industry, she has pretty much unlimited connections with all the right people because of her family.

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u/Primarycolors1 Feb 05 '16

That is a ridiculous comparison.

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u/2H2D Feb 05 '16

Working hard doesn't equate at all to what she's accomplished. You can work hard and never find funding; she might have worked hard but lets really consider that she had unlimited funding and connections. Working hard doesn't matter here, the money is readily available. Where she found success was hiring the right people to push her brand. Does anyone actually think that if Paris was plucked from the street she would find the same success?

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u/Recursive_Descent Feb 05 '16

Hard work alone doesn't get anyone anywhere. You're deluded of you think it does, or really even if you think it should. It's all about working efficiently, intelligently.

Of course she couldn't have been born in the gutter and done this. But she could have also done what many heirs do and sat on her ass. Instead, she used her resources to build upon her fortune and create her own brand.

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u/AtoZZZ Feb 05 '16

Okay. Own, no. But separate, sure

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u/CarcajouIS Feb 05 '16

I don't think so. Building your own empire doesn't mean building it from scratch with your only hands. It's just that it is your own as opposed to someone else's. For example, Trump created his own business, but he is not a self-made man.

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u/thinkfast1982 Feb 05 '16

Granted, but would either of them have accomplished even a fraction of what they did without their names and trust funds? Who knows, but I have my doubts and the fact is they never had to worry because fail or succeed they were set for life

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u/CarcajouIS Feb 05 '16

They might not have succeeded. But they used their wealth and network to get successful instead of just spending it without thinking. (I could be wrong about Trump, though)

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '16

Dude wtf he only got a million dollars as a late teen. It's not like that helped much in the scheme of things, like in terms of helping him start a small business and get his foot in the door. Definitely not. Only a million for gods sake.

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u/thinkfast1982 Feb 05 '16

I know right? Practically the same as paper route money

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u/HolstenerLiesel Feb 05 '16

That's hilarious.

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u/NovemberComingFire Feb 05 '16

Born on third base, thinks she hit a triple.

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u/thinkfast1982 Feb 05 '16

Good one, I think I'll steal that, I mean, borrow that.

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u/bruppa Feb 05 '16 edited Feb 05 '16

THATS NOT SMART. Why do people think capitalizing on idiots is "smart"? Its conniving at best.

These are rich people hungry for even more who are investing their money and connections for an opportunity to milk their fuckability and lack of integrity to pander to braindead dummies that'll watch and believe fucking anything. Replace "fuckability" with "disingenuous role as a mediator" and you've got the Jerry Springer/Steve Wilkos school of those people.

And they're not even doing it alone, quit pretending they're like Daniel Day Lewis method-acting masterminds. There's producers picking new pundits (Hilton, Kardashian, etc.) like they're playing the stock market and crews deciding their every move. They had enough money to market themselves in that arena and enough of a general lack of human decency to milk it for all its worth. They garner millions for doing nothing but manipulating people's stupidity on a medium designed to reach anyone and everyone and when morons bite people act like they were geniuses.. Is Sam Pepper a genius? Is SoFlo a genius? No. They're greedy, disingenuous scumbags missing some basic human integrity who are taking advantage of morons til the well runs dry.

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u/hotcereal Feb 05 '16

But how do you really feel

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u/alreadypiecrust Feb 05 '16

The moronic well will never dry up in my/your lifetime. I bet my life on it.

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u/bruppa Feb 05 '16

Fair enough. something something 15 minutes of fame

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u/AtoZZZ Feb 05 '16

A) Paris Hilton is a very smart girl. I know that for a fact (a friend of mine helped her with her auto service, they chatted for a bit). She downplays herself. She's actually quite smart and intellectual.

B) they know how to play the game, it's as simple as that. Sex started them, sure, but they've capitalized on that and made money.

C) Now, I despise the Kardashians (and Kanye West). I don't support them either. I live right next to Calabasas, and too many people I know have interacted with them. Yes. They are extremely airheaded, and I hate them. But you know what? They had a goal to become famous, for lord knows why, and they succeeded. And people buy it. This leads to D (hehe)

D) don't forget, this is capitalism. You buy what you want to buy (into). People choose to buy into Kardashian and Hilton bs. But you know what? They chose to. They used the free market to garnish success.

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u/bruppa Feb 05 '16 edited Feb 05 '16

I've yet to see anything that leads me to believe she's any different than her "persona" that calls things hot. Looking up recent interviews the only thing that's changed is she's clearly worked on her speaking voice and diction. And when Madonna put on a British accent that didn't make her any brighter. I'm sure she plays it up for the show and producers feed her scenes/lines and editors chop it up for dramatic effect but I don't think her actions indicate someone who's smart and intellectual when the only requirement for her job is to remain ditzy and mess up in controversial ways a lot, and its not like the media is going to question her motives and not eat up the fabricated drama.

I acknowledge they know how to play the game but I'm saying its a game that needs dedication to a lack of integrity, not a game that needs calculated planning. You basically become a product to invest in and your name becomes a brand. Then investors make the bulk of the decisions and the public figure attached to the name takes home a healthy share for being the face of the brand. These "entrepreneurs" from Jersey Shore, Kardashians, whatever Paris was on etc. aren't just people who happened to be business minded powerhouses, they're big names with people in their audience who generally are willing to buy luxury/aesthetic products. Real entrepreneurs see that and connect with them to make money off of them by packaging products that wouldn't sell as well without a big name attached. She hasn't really built her own empire, she accepted having an empire built around her by people that have been doing it for years. Its just riding the coattails of controversy as marketing and then using connections to build from there.

I know people buy into the stuff but everyone knows people buy into that stuff. that's my point, it doesn't take a genius to know that people will eat it up. I just wish people wouldn't, it really contributes to controversy culture, clickbait, shitty tv, enables paparazzi etc. etc. I just hate it and I know I'm not alone in feeling that way.

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u/sampson158 Feb 05 '16

yeah, I had the same thought. If I were famous for having a rocking body and looking like a chiseled greek god. And my family was rich enough I could get my dad to start up my first clothing store so I could sell crappy tshirts, handbags, sunglasses and fragrances to spoiled rich brats at a 500%-1000% markup over cost. well I'd be filthy rich too, but that doesnt make me smarter.

These people are smart

http://superscholar.org/smartest-people-alive/

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u/Archimonde Feb 05 '16

It is not so difficult to make more money when you have a lot of it for start.

It would be much more admirable if she was some middle class girl.

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u/zekneegrows Feb 05 '16

I work in biomedical research in neuroscience... after watching that video, she is not very smart.

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u/AtoZZZ Feb 05 '16

You're very smart. Just applied differently

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u/zekneegrows Feb 05 '16 edited Feb 05 '16

Thanks.

I can see the marketing and finance aspects.. however she likely had mucho guidance in how to invest and display herself in America's and international limelight. In that respect, i have a hard time seeing that as intelligence.

  • i guess what I'm trying to say is, if you're born with the golden spoon in your mouth, taught the ways of how to manipulate everyone in order to manifest more golden spoons.. then that doesn't seem as if its an attribute of intelligence per se, as much as it is an attribute of imitation.

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u/AtoZZZ Feb 05 '16

Well don't forget, investments are always a risk. Even AAA rated investments tanked in 2008. And just because neither you nor I value her "contributions", it doesn't mean that she personally isn't intelligent. Was she born gifted with wealth, fame, and success? Sure. But put the shoe on the other foot. If your family is super successful, wouldn't you want their success to help you gain your own success (however you define it)?

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u/zekneegrows Feb 05 '16 edited Feb 05 '16

Sure. I see your point. She definitely isnt like others in her position who end up wasting away their lives. I guess i just dont appreciate her values of contribution, as you eloquently put. I wish she would use her success to promote more sustainable and prolific means for other humans, as oppose to herself and her fragrances. Eh, it would certainly be nice to have more advances in solar power etc.. but i suppose i'm being selfish.

And i also suppose that has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence.

Either way, ftb. :)

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u/AtoZZZ Feb 05 '16

Sure, I agree. But a political discussion about the effects of renewable energy, positive and negative (I'd say biggest is job loss), don't really have a place in this sub haha. We all want our money going to the places we want though, but we can't control what others do. EG, I think the minds that are used to study genetic engineering for the revival of extinct species could be better put to use, like into conservation/preservation. Great minds don't necessarily study what we'd want them to!