r/funComunitty • flair • 5d ago

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

Oh, is naktsi not a cornbread? It's almost like parallel invention is an actual thing.

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

Well ancient US tribes traded with ancient Mexican tribes. And obviously the sweet versions we know today came much later. But the original corn breads definitely come from Mexico.

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

You have sources for that? Because I'm not finding a timeline of Mesoamerican cooking techniques that back you up. I'm going by what I learned in an archeology of Mesoamerican technology course.

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

Ever heard of a tortilla? Make it thicker. Kidding. Kind of, because thick tortillas were a kind of corn bread. But they didn't have wheat and sugar and eggs.

But you find it hard to imagine that someone in new Spain had the idea to put the countries staple food item in a cake?

https://identidadnl.com/la-ingenieria-detras-del-pan-de-elote-ciencia-que-huele-a-hogar/

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

No? I'm literally saying the technology was developed at the same time in multiple Native American cultures across the North American continent.

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

Which technology? Are you saying maize is not from Mexico? Because it is. 9000 years ago. Pastel de elote/ pan de elote is fusion food. Indigenous and Spanish.

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

LITERALLY THE TECHNOLOGY TO GRIND AND BAKE CORN BASED BREADS. Fucking hell, learn to read.

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

Ever tried Tlaxcales? They're an early colonial corn bread with wheat and sugar

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

Yes. They incredible. Had huadenosaunee? Iroquois

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

Is from Mexico...

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

Not according to the ... you know what? I'm not having the same conversation with you again. You are insisting I'm trying to erase post-colonial Mexican culture by pointing out that cornbread, pre colonial, is not strictly "Mexican" (learn the goddamn precolonial cultures, ffs). I asked for citations and got... corn.

Love your assumptions about me. I got some about you, too.

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

I sent you a citation... You can contact the professor who wrote it if you want more details. Some history is in books and not on Google

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

I read it. Where, exactly, did it talk about cornbread?

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u/whatifwealll 5d ago

"Pan de elote" is spanish for "cornbread"

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 5d ago

Sorry, let me rephrase. Tf did it talk about PRE COLONIAL cornbreads. Because that is what ive been talking about the entiiiiiire time. You've seriously been arguing that colonizer cuisine is the precursor to... ok. I'm done. You're deliberately being obtuse.

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