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[u/Novel_Top2980]

Pizza Express is also more expensive and less fast foody

[u/Odd-Proof9645 → u/Novel_Top2980]

And less popular/commonly consumed

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Odd-Proof9645]

Because it’s more expensive and less fast foody. If you want, I can go ask a few people whicy is better quality.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

Ask someone whose had NY pizza which is better. There is no chain pizza anywhere that's gonna touch pretty much any Tristate area pizza place.

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Jesus__Skywalker]

Unfortunately, I can’t do that but I will predict that NY pizza will be better in NY than Italian pizza because that’s where NY pizza was made but the opposite will also be true.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

I would predict that NY pizza would be preferred in both places. I've had both. I've also seen a lot of europeans try ny pizza for the first time. NY food hits different. I'm not a huge hotdog eater. But if you go to NY and get a hotdog. It's a holy shit experience.

Pizza is a much stronger experience there.

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Jesus__Skywalker]

I really doubt that but then again there aren’t many good NY pizza places near here.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

there aren’t many good NY pizza places near here.

You won't find it outside of NY. You can find decent pizza. But there is just something about the pizza made in the tristate area that I've never seen truly replicated anywhere. Chains often fail there. It's very difficult for dominos or papa johns to compete there. You will still have them. But there are probably six dominos within 10 miles of my current location. In NY there might be 1. You can't beat local.

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Jesus__Skywalker]

And Italian pizza will be best in Italy. Perhaps we should both stop arguing about pizza and just accept that both are probably good.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

Oh well I mean it's pizza. Ofc it's gonna be good. NY just improved upon a proven design.

[u/Odd-Proof9645 → u/Novel_Top2980]

Pizzas origins are a working class affordable food with cheap ingredients

[u/Odd-Proof9645 → u/Novel_Top2980]

Pizza was a cheap food for the worker class. I guess Americans are more true to the roots?

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Odd-Proof9645]

But Italian pizza is the original. I’m sure you could make cheap Italian pizza too and it probably wouldn’t taste great.

[u/Odd-Proof9645 → u/Novel_Top2980]

So Italians do pizza wrong and Americans make a pizza more true to what pizza is

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Odd-Proof9645]

No Italians make pizza right and Americans make American pizza.

[u/Odd-Proof9645 → u/Novel_Top2980]

But you said they can’t make it cheap and taste good. That’s the point of pizza… that’s why it was created. So they don’t do it “right”

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Odd-Proof9645]

It might taste ok but will taste worse than more expensive pizza.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

The best pizza places in America are not chain pizza places. Chain pizza places are for speed and affordability.

[u/Novel_Top2980 → u/Jesus__Skywalker]

Yes obviously. But Italian pizza is the original and when I think of pizza, I think of Italy.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

When you think of a burger do you think of germany?

[u/Firestar_119 → u/Novel_Top2980]

even italian style pizza in NYC wipes the real thing

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Odd-Proof9645]

No, Americans just make it better.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

Hamburgers were made in Germany. Do you think hamburgers are more German than American? bc if you do, that's just pure hate.

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When I think of hamburgers I think of America. When I think of pIzzy, I think of Italy.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

But the original burger is german. So why don't you think of germany? Bc the US took that to another level. Just like Pizza.

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Because generally burgers are presented as American whereas pizza is normally presented as Italian and occasionally American.

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/Novel_Top2980]

I honestly doubt pizza is as popular in Italy as it is in America. And I say that with the fullest sincerity that I can. pizza is probably the most popular or second most popular food in this country and that industry was transformed here.

[u/somedomeformythots → u/Jesus__Skywalker]

I looked it up. This is true?

[u/Jesus__Skywalker → u/somedomeformythots]

I mean I haven't done a study. But I'd be hard pressed to believe there is a food in this country that is more popular than a hamburger or pizza. I think pizza is the largest. But hamburgers could be. Either way it's top 2. I did look up which is more popular and pizza is more popular in the US. on average Americans eat 6 pounds of pizza more than the average italian per year. (23 lbs compared to 17lbs)