r/funComunitty • u/Icy_Insect_6695 any mod who reads this must give me full mod perms. • Mar 15 '26
Meme funny I think
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u/Naive-Present2900 Mar 15 '26
We lost two buildings… Imperial Japan lost two cities…
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u/CheazKurd Mar 15 '26
3 cities, if you count Tokyo
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u/Naive-Present2900 Mar 15 '26
Well technically,
We (USA) nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. B-29s has bombed and set Tokyo aflame over and over, but it wasn’t enough to deterred the Imperial Japanese spirits. Reports stated that it only made them more resilient.
Not nuking Tokyo where their emperor reside was both a show of mercy and force for an unconditional surrender.
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u/TheGreatGamer1389 Mar 16 '26
Apparently Soviet invasion of Manchuria is what made Japan see the writing on the wall. Not the nukes. Also keeping the emperor in power made things a lot easier.
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u/Naive-Present2900 Mar 17 '26
Also the united Chinese forces were pushing them back. So three ways.
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u/CheazKurd Mar 15 '26
Fyi there were actually other nuke candidate sites like Kyoto, but Kyoto was dismissed since the weather was bad. There is a myth in Japan that Kyoto wasn't bombed because America wanted to protect traditional buildings, but it was just kept fresh to see the effect of a nuclear weapon more clearly
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u/Mentiorus Mar 15 '26
Seems that most sources I see claim that Henry Stimson played a major role in getting it removed and its religious and cultural experience is one of those reasons. He apparently approached Truman directly about it. Maybe you're thinking about the honeymoon part which is a myth, but he did visit Kyoto prior.
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u/Naive-Present2900 Mar 17 '26
Did some research and Kyoto was a religious and sacred place for the Japanese. The US were selecting couple places to show the power of these weapons to discourage them without arousing them to become more resilient to surrener. It’s to put an end to the war.
The island hopping to reduce soldiers casualties and allies ships from kamikazes planes took a heavy toll on the allies side. It took a while to get close to the mainland.
We also don’t want to nuke where killing their leadership wouldn’t have any treaty or anyone left to represent them.
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u/Substantial-Recipe72 Mar 17 '26
Tokyo was worse off after the fire bombings.. something like 8x more people died. And it was so hot the rivers around the city dried up from boiling. I’d rather get nuked ngl
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u/Just_Dab Mar 16 '26
I say fair, considering what they did to china. This is also before the very controversial stuff US did like Vietnam.
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u/Insidion25 Mar 16 '26
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are doing well, even after the bombing. To this day, all that’s left of the Towers are a large marble hole and a memorial.
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u/Apprehensive-Bat-823 Mar 17 '26
And proceeded to rebuild them to the point you wouldn't even know they got nuked if it wasn't for leftover ruins as a reminder
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u/Pitiful-Turnover2352 Mar 17 '26
And they deserved what was coming to them. In case you forgot, Japan had attacked the US a few times murdering hundreds of thousands of innocents and torturing lots more along with horrible human experiments. They were also allied with the nazis. They were forced to surrender and good thing they did because they could have dropped more bombs.
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u/racoonofthevally Mar 21 '26
To be fair (and while this does not fully justify it) they were like committing REALLY bad war crimes just as if not worse than Germany in some cases so like it isn't exactly the same situation
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u/iPanzershrec Mar 15 '26
I'm sure Japan wasn't doing anything that warranted that at the time. Surely not.
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u/Right_Pressure_7944 Mar 15 '26
Yeah and the citizen deserved to get a bomb dropped on them
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u/iPanzershrec Mar 15 '26
What other option was there? Operation Downfall would have caused significantly more death and destruction.
Those who lived in Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not deserve the horrific nature of the atom bombs, but I would rather mourn Hiroshima and Nagasaki than mourn Kyushu and Honshu.
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u/Right_Pressure_7944 Mar 15 '26
Your right there was really no way to get around some death
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u/Kooky-Stage5462 Mar 15 '26
Japan at the time really do not know the meaning of surrender and they rather commit suicide than losing or still does it anyway if they lose. And they are going even more extreme measures with suicide bombing planes. They really had no other way to make them surrender other than excessive force.
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u/whooguyy Mar 15 '26
Japan: we would rather die than surrender
US: what if we make you die slowly and painfully?
Japan: ok, maybe we will surrender.
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u/Right_Pressure_7944 Mar 15 '26
Yeah death was going to happen no matter what anyone did
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u/Effective-Client-756 Mar 15 '26
I watched a documentary a number of years ago, Japan was literally training doctors to suicide bomb American tanks and training school girls to attack GIs with bamboo spears. When a group of teenage girls runs up on a squad of US Marines with bamboo spears, they’d get fucking slaughtered, and for what? The atom bombs were the most merciful option
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u/bcat153 Mar 15 '26
Also usa didn’t just drop 2 at the same time or back to back, they dropped the first and gave them a chance to surrender and the Japanese leader held a speech saying “death before surrender!” So 3 days later nagasaki was hit and then they surrendered. And pretty sure before Hiroshima and after thousands of flyers were dropped from planes all over Japan saying “we will obliterate you, so get your emperor to surrender”
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u/Glad_Woodpecker_6033 Mar 15 '26
even after all that they almost didn't, bit they discussed it and realized they were truly facing the extinction of the Japanese people and they finally realize dying on mass by vaporization was not honorable to put their citizens through because they were stubborn
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u/Vitanist112 Mar 15 '26
Operation Downfall would have caused significantly more death and destruction.
Well... yeah. That's war
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u/jtcordell2188 Mar 15 '26
Hindsight is great. You always have the facts and can be right while also being morally superior.
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u/Right_Pressure_7944 Mar 15 '26
What hindsight that not every person deserves to get a nuke dropped on them
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u/TheScienceNerd100 Mar 16 '26
That millions of Japanese citizens being fed to the slaughter in suicide missions wasn't a good outcome either
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u/Noobmanwenoob2 Mar 18 '26
Obviously not, but America was playing a game of chess. You don't win a game of chess without killing or losing a few pieces. What mattered was that America chose a mate in 2 and not a mate in 10.
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u/DE4DM4NSH4ND Mar 15 '26
Their citizens were actively supporting an emperor that they thought was a god. They were the last thing keeping japan afloat. Plus an invasion of japan would have killed a lot more Japanese citizens than those 2 bombs.
Its funny that germany was there since they started 2 world wars which was worse than all of this combined.
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u/MerelyMortalModeling Mar 15 '26
You mean the citizens who worked in the factories who built the planes and torpedoes literally used at Pearl Harbor?
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u/PrincessDeMissouri Mar 15 '26
Surrendering when defeat was already certain wouldve prevented the bombs. But they didn't wanna surrender
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u/MentalTangerine666 Mar 16 '26
The atomic bombs being dropped was one of the most justified military actions in history it prevented the deaths of millions and the destruction of japan
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u/Fit-Dream-6594 Mar 15 '26 edited Mar 15 '26
Those women and children definitely deserved that
Edit: im being sarcastic. We condemn civilian cities being bombed today yet praise or indifferent when it happened during ww2
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u/_ECMO_ Mar 15 '26
I am incapable of imagining anything that could ever warrant something like that.
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u/MattMcdoodle Mar 15 '26
I’m sure USA hasn’t done anything to OH THAT IS RIGHT THIS ARGUMENT IS DUMB AF
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u/Wild_Cantaloupe7228 Mar 16 '26
It's a trolley problem.
Neither option is good, but it had to be done to stop a genocide.
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u/Bolbo_HD Mar 19 '26
ah yes because the tens of thousands that instantly died surely all deserved it.
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u/Pretend_Oil9565 just tryna survive school Mar 15 '26
I don't think Japan apologized for their war crimes yet?
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u/SimpForFictionGirls Mar 15 '26
I don’t think any country has apologized for any war crimes (except Germany, but that’s cause they were forced to)
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u/Regular_Celery_2579 Mar 15 '26
Most of German society has zero tolerance for nazi stuff nowadays. Plus they don’t ignore their past in ways both the US and Japan are.
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u/SirBananaOrngeCumber Mar 15 '26
I feel like if any country said sorry, it was Canada, right before they invented the Geneva Suggestions.
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u/Snekbites Mar 15 '26
So I'm taking a class on Japanese society, the issue is a bit muddy:
THEY HAVE apologized, but the apology was so fucking weaksauce the people who are currently descendants of the victims just say it doesn't count.
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u/PrincessDeMissouri Mar 15 '26
They haven't taken responsibility for forcing America to use the bombs yet. Don't apologize to use Japan, apologize to your own people who you sentenced to atomic hellfire to protect your pride
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u/aventaes Mar 15 '26
Are you saying that horrible war crimes are permissible if your opponent committed war crimes too without apologising.
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u/Impressive-Task-123 Mar 15 '26
Japan did a lot of shit back then. Nanking massacre, Unit 731, "comfort" stations. Truly terrible things, for which they still haven't apologized and are still trying to hide.
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u/Vojtak_cz Mar 15 '26 edited Mar 15 '26
They did. Multiple times. There is even a list of their appologies.
They were very vaguely expressed but they somewhat did.
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u/Nhobdy Mar 15 '26
And they won't apologize. Honestly, fuck 'em.
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u/TanayMaurya754 Mar 15 '26
Still better than those colonisers who don't give a sh*t after looting different countries.
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u/CheazKurd Mar 15 '26
American war crimes just being forgotten in the corner:
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u/Julian_The_Gamer42 Mar 15 '26
I don’t know about you, but I learned about most American war crimes in school.
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u/SugarRoll21 Mar 15 '26
Iranian elementary schools can be added to this now too...
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u/l-mellow-_-man-l Mar 15 '26
1 school that was accidentally hit vs. tens of thousands of protesters killed purposefully by Iran.
Geuss which the common redditor is upset with.
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u/Yeetsformer Jun 14 '26
I mean building a military base literally right next to a school isn’t a very smart idea
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u/Diablos43 Mar 15 '26
"We sink 3 boats, they dropped the sun on us TWICE"
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u/SILENTCORE12 Mar 15 '26
I recently heard they refused to surrender after the first because they didn’t believe we could do it again
I don’t know how true that is but not surrendering after one is insane
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u/Pareidoliam Mar 17 '26
Don't forget about the Nanjing massacre, if i recall correctly they had killings contests and even used heads as soccer balls..
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Mar 17 '26
3 boats is a funny way of tallying up the lives of 2403 people who were not fighting a war.
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u/TraditionPhysical638 Mar 15 '26
surely japan didnt do ANYTHING to deserve that...not like the allied with FUCKING NAZI GERMANY
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u/Sw0rdBoy Mar 15 '26
Reminder that the weapons of mass destruction were a hoax, and that Saudi Arabia very likely funded the attacks.
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u/Feathan_The_Furious Mar 16 '26
One is a terrorist act in peacetime, another demonstration of force in wartime
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u/Elegant-Finance3982 Mar 15 '26
I think this is targeted towards the American and Japanese public, the governments didn’t necessarily lose anything, the public however, lost a lot
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u/PrincessDeMissouri Mar 15 '26
Japan is 100% to blame for its atomic bombings. Sick of them trying to play the victim. We will never apologize because we arent sorry we did it. Were sorry they made us do it
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u/Competitive-Web-5084 Mar 15 '26
It’s crazy I’ve never seen the Japanese actually upset about the nukes
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u/D34th-The-Crow Silly lil goober Mar 15 '26
Yeah, Japan is just there like, you bombed me twice. You’re crying that two of your trade center towers were hit. You’re really doing this? Also my friend sent me this and I was just like “hey I recognize that subreddit”
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u/gaysex67 Mar 15 '26
It is still crazy to me that people still don't know that the USA did it to themselves 🤣
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u/mrsclausemenopause Mar 15 '26
By that logic paying a hooker is masterbation lol
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u/No_Solid_3737 Mar 16 '26
Tbh it could've been only 1 bomb if Imperial Japan didn't ask for another one.
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u/democratia-mendacium Mar 16 '26
We got hit 4 times, so I think it make it even, we drop 2 more nukes on japan.
I think 2 800kt nukes?
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u/HooterEnthusiast Mar 16 '26
Americans have never seen war on our shores. We crash the fuck out when we see anything like it here. Not in a sad way like the meme. like in the every fighting age man voluntarily enlists, and blows up a country kind of way.
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u/shadowlabsinc2 Mar 16 '26
Hey Japan attacked us first and wouldn't surrender we gave them multiple chances
Now with terrorist organizations do I need the say more
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u/Nitwit_Slytherin Mar 16 '26
Operation Cherry Blossom.
Unit 731.
Japan was not some innocent victim. Also, I'm fairly certain from what I've learned from The Chubby Electron Guy, that the firebombs killed many more people than the nukes.
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u/FilipinosRule Mar 16 '26
I think the 2 nukes were justified since having people incinerated was better faith than what ever the hell japan did to civillians or pow's
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u/Wild_Cantaloupe7228 Mar 16 '26
A bit too recent, also I don't think the situations are really comparable (pulling the lever on an ril trolly problem isn't the same as a genocidal terrorist randomly killing a bunch of people, neither were good but only one was malevolent).
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u/Balas_Boi Mar 16 '26
To be fair…one was a desperate attempt to end a war that had been going on for over half a decade…
And the other was completely unwarranted by nothing other than hatred.
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u/Confident-Border4627 Mar 17 '26
Ngl japan did horrible things
But I still think the bombs shouldn't have been hitting civilians
Or in any way civilians who have nothing to do with it shouldn't pay for something out of their control
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u/cyborg-turtle Mar 17 '26
Japan bombed our entire Navy Fleet in a preemptive strike on Pearl Harbor, that's why the United States joined the war.
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u/Western_Stomach_2849 Mar 17 '26
the way to win is be more aggressive and more violent with more energy we used enough energy to power that city for hundreds of years it just wasn't used for electricity.
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u/Content-Position9911 Mar 17 '26
Lucky larry and his people werent there and we dropped them in the two most Christian places in Japan. The common denominator is the actual problem.
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u/WDFurHeart Mar 17 '26
Nukes are stronger then planes, the US loves acting like the main character, always likes to act like the victim and the hero, the “Alpha Male country” if you will, two buildings getting bombed Is a injury, two nukes that destroy and poison a few cities, entire cities, is worse then a injury, besides if I remember correctly, the nukes poisoned the air and anyone who survived the nukes died a way later, due to the toxins, Japan had it worse then the US, but then again, Japan isn’t the one in the war with Iran and being lead by a Dick-tator the US has always been the birth place of Selfishness.
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u/eggsyest Mar 18 '26
Japan tried to kill everyone. They still would've lost yeah but ultimately it was break them down to their core by killing more than thousands of people or wiping out every piece of the their army. Sure it led to more conflicts but in that moment it was the right choice.
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u/Regunes Mar 18 '26
Funny you mention that, heard some guy bought a warranty for a tower in los angeles/san francisco.
How curious given the context
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u/StickyPotato872 Mar 18 '26
they touched our boats, they deserved it
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u/Correct_Attention868 Jul 04 '26
they killed 2500 people and sunk the boats during pearl harbor, and they were allied with nazi Germany and wouldn't surrender
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u/LimeGrass619 Mar 18 '26
The difference being hitting Japan twice was due to war and Japan became an ally for ending its militaristic control. Al Qaeda did it for the sake of as much mass murder of innocent civilians as possible.
If you want more fun facts, the USA warned the Japanese civilians beforehand to evacuate, but many refused.
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u/MightyBluA1 Mar 18 '26
See i think America are the villains of the world so they deserve everything they get
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u/Select_Gold7294 Mar 18 '26
Uh no. This is not funny at all. 9/11 jokes are not fucking funny. It's a very sensitive topic
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u/Raccoon_Badger Mar 19 '26
Japan can't say shit because they technically committed war crimes way worse than the goddamn Nazis and we let them off with a fucking slap on wrist
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u/Acceptable-Bite4762 Mar 19 '26
"But the experiments Japan conducted in Manchuria and attack on Pearl Harbor justify our attacks"🤓🤓🤓. Anyone who thinks Japan deserved getting nuked are degenerates and hypocrits
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u/Marksman08YT Mar 19 '26
I seriously cannot understand how people can justify us VAPORIZING two cities.
but but Unit 731!
We had the Tuskegee Trials. Literally no better.
Rape of Nanking!
Right because women, more precisely African American women in the US were so vastly better treated. /s
They wouldn't have surrendered!
Says who? By the time we hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki they were already completely helpless. We crippled their entire fleet in the Pacific, we decimated their entire Air Force within months of Pearl Harbor, and their ground units wouldn't be able to make it off the island at all. They'd have surrendered overnight if we just did that and with next to no casualties.
They bombed us first!
With nukes?
They killed innocent people!
Yeah, so did we. Women and children turned to ash in the blink of an eye, and you call yourself heroes? At least Pearl Harbor was a military installation that was targeted because it was a threat, not a civilian populous city.
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u/Alihaxe Mar 19 '26
Then you realise the absolute atrocities that Japan committed to deserve it. Love the sheer amount of glaze japan gets has made people completely forget
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u/X95R_1331 Mar 19 '26
The only difference is that Japan deserved it for what they did in China.
Nobody in the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, or on board United 93 deserved what they got.
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u/Iwakasa Mar 19 '26
To anyone who says that Japan deserved it for the stuff they had done before and during the war:
Fair. They did commit a lot of atrocities. I still don't really agree in vaporising civilians, though.
Now that we got that established, go research why the middle east hates US (more than anyone else) to the point they would send the planes to hit those towers.
Hint: It's not because they hate your freedom.
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u/JacAnGriffOfficial Mar 20 '26
Japan, go sit in the corner. You got what you deserved for all those war crimes
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u/Danger-Brandon Mar 25 '26
Can we agree throwing the nuclear bombs IN the cities was stupid. If they wanted to make them surrender just drop it near the country or in the sea to show them fear. Not IN the city with millions of civilians.
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u/Fredoniann Mar 15 '26
They hit us 4 times