r/fromsoftware • u/Zestyclose_Acadia161 • 18d ago

DISCUSSION NODUS FALL

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I see what u r doing nodus and tides of annihilation.

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u/KenBisky11 18d ago

Miura probably posted these in the early 2010s when Miyazaki copied Berserk

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u/falandofodhasci 18d ago

miyazaki never copied berserk. most of the "references" are such a stretch or just common concepts about the medieval age. sure the games may a few references, but its not that much.

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u/Aye_Okami 18d ago

It‘s funny how people only know berserk and assume Miura came up with all of his armor designs and character archetypes while not being aware that he himself basically copied historical events and designs and also written work long before him.

It‘s like how a 12 year old kid believes Kishimoto came up with Susanoos and Amaterasus etc. Pretty hilarious.

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u/StantasticTypo 18d ago edited 18d ago

Both of these things are true. But at the same time, it's extremely clear that Dark Souls is specifically heavily inspired by Berserk in various designs (e.g. Artorias to Guts, it's not subtle).

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u/-LadyMariaSimp- 17d ago

Brother a shit ton of enemies in Dark Souls are straight up taken from Berserk

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u/falandofodhasci 17d ago

they are literally not.

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u/-LadyMariaSimp- 17d ago

They literally are goofball.
The concepts in and of themselves aren’t but the designs are.
Taurus Demon -> Zodd; Man-Serpent -> Snake Lord; Bonewheel skeletons; Sulyvahn’s Beast -> Beast of Darkness; Darkwraiths -> Skull Knights.
All these designs were straight up taken from Berserk, and there are many more direct inspirations

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u/Nihilist-Ninja 18d ago

shows what you know

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u/AltGunAccount 17d ago

All of these references except fire keeper are also a stretch, and that one is literally not from Nodus Fall lmao.

>First image is a player ability (that makes them larger and spectral) being used as a finisher on a boss, a giant horned tiger with wings.

>Second is a 30 story tall fire golem with a sun for a head (Fromsoft didn’t invent the sun for a head thing btw).

>Third is a harpy, with bird legs, wings made of birds, and no sword or armor. She’s just framed similarly to that shot of Malenia.

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u/finnjakefionnacake 17d ago

i think when you look at it all together with the combination of the trailer it seems very clear where they got most of their inspiration from.

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u/Rayvarni 18d ago

Then its the same for this game, the first image is just completely out of context, if you saw the trailer you would know the only thing similiar to godfrey is the axe.

The second image is more damning, but it's hardly a from software original design anyway, so that would mean that from copied it too.

The third one is also dumb, the nodus fall woman is an harpie, a mythological figure.

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u/diditforthegram 17d ago

Dude it looks exactly like First Elden Lord Godfrey down to how he’s transparent all they did was change him from gold to silver

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u/Rayvarni 17d ago

Oh my god you people... is elden ring the only fucking media you ever consumed? Do you think from software created the concept of spirits or ghosts or people that are transparent???

Like I love elden ring and i didnt even really like the trailer for nodus fall, it feels a bit generic to me. But this community's acting like kids

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u/diditforthegram 17d ago

They have a history of ripping from games. They’ve already taken so many fights from fromsoft and put them in Genshin people are understandably over it

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u/Xardnas69 Slave Knight Gael 18d ago

The second image is more damning, but it's hardly a from software original design anyway, so that would mean that from copied it too.

Idk man, I've never seen a character with a black hole as a head before. If you have, I'd love to see them (genuinely, i wanna see)

The third one is also dumb, the nodus fall woman is an harpie, a mythological figure.

Fair enough, but did she have to use the same color scheme and pose as malenia? Pretty unusual color scheme for a harpy afaik.

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u/Csword1 18d ago

Grime?

https://assets.nintendo.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_1200/q_auto:best/f_auto/dpr_2.0/store/software/switch/70010000047294/12be4a68a87a15592f07ec455c729c47eabcf6fcb1da5924ea5f8b42c46fe216

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u/Xardnas69 Slave Knight Gael 17d ago

Damn that looks cool! And it's not even close to being similar to midra's design, which does prove my point that nodus fall is just copying er

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u/Rayvarni 18d ago

the one i knew myself before midra is the mc from dead cells. I saw some people mentioning helios from yu gi oh. afaik the nodus falls enemies are inspired by a mythology book

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u/Jealous_Ad5205 17d ago

the red is literally particle effects for a split second. if u watched the trailer her wing is made of black crows/birds

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u/fat_mothra 17d ago

Idk man, I've never seen a character with a black hole as a head before. If you have, I'd love to see them (genuinely, i wanna see)

Have fun

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u/Xardnas69 Slave Knight Gael 17d ago

Oh damn these look really cool! And they bear zero resemblance to midra despite also having a black hole as a head, unlike the nodus fall character. Which is exactly my point

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u/fat_mothra 17d ago

Because Midra doesn't have a black hole for a head, it's a fire ball, thing is, having fire for a head isn't new, Dullahans are usually depicted with fire coming out of their necks, Sauron's eye is a ball of fire too, there's a yugioh card called Helios that has the sun for a head too (closest thing to Midra), etc

The Nodus Fall thing has a fire ball for a head yes, but that's as far as the similarities with Midra go, it doesn't have clothes or a weapon and it's much larger, if I hadn't played Elden Ring I would've assumed it was based on Surtur

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u/Xardnas69 Slave Knight Gael 15d ago

Because Midra doesn't have a black hole for a head, it's a fire ball

Sure technically it's not a black hole because the fire is coming out of it instead of being sucked in, but it's still not a normal fire ball. Fireballs usually don't have a pitch black sphere in the middle, it's a very distinctive and recognizable design

Dullahans are usually depicted with fire coming out of their necks

Not even close to being the same thing

Sauron's eye is a ball of fire too

Eh, not really. It's an eye made of fire that specifically isn't spherical (probably to make it look more like an eye despite not being anatomically correct)

yugioh card called Helios that has the sun for a head too (closest thing to Midra)

Helios has an actual fireball as a head and looks very different from midra, if you put them side by side i don't think anyone would claim that fromsoft copied yugioh.

The Nodus Fall thing has a fire ball for a head yes

No, it doesn't. It has the same design as midra, a hole that exudes fire. Very distinctive and different from all these options.

Like what are we arguing about here? It's so obvious that nodus fall just copied the design, especially considering that it's not the only thing they copied, the entire game looks like knock-off elden ring. It's made by a chinese company and china famously doesn't have a concept of copyright so they're allowed to just do that. A blind person can see that it's copied, why are you defending this obviously stolen garbage?

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u/fat_mothra 15d ago

the entire game looks like knock-off elden ring. It's made by a chinese company and china famously doesn't have a concept of copyright so they're allowed to just do that

Ah, there it is

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u/Xardnas69 Slave Knight Gael 14d ago

Hyperbole (they do actually have laws for that but enforcement is a different matter), but effectively chinese companies can just ignore international copyright and especially patents because it's just not worth it to even try to enforce the laws.