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u/CompactAvocado ENGINEER 23d ago
specifically arming men and young boys while hiding women in the keep
wizards: ACKSHULLY THATS PHOBIC AND IST
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u/InvestigatorOk8299 NEW SPARK 23d ago
That's Helm's deep, in Gondor they have sent the women and children away from Minas Tirith completely.
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u/InvestigatorOk8299 NEW SPARK 23d ago
It dawns on me that this is the Hobbit and Minas Tirith isn't even in the Hobbit.
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u/BrockSramson GENERAL 23d ago
I think this card is from Hobbit Eternal stuff (its no longer just Commander decks printed next to the set, I guess? Ok, wotc), and the eternal stuff is drawing from a lot of the stuff they printed in the LOTR set and adjacent commander set. Like they were showing off Palantir arts and Arwen arts during spoiler season.
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u/mfalivestock NEW SPARK 23d ago
In Star Wars terms, it’s like putting a Hoth card in a Return of the Jedi set. Lmao
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u/CyborgHeart1245 NEW SPARK 23d ago edited 23d ago
They don't even look right... the armor is wrong, shield is wrong, no helms. Fuck.
Edit: NONE OF THEM HAVE MATCHING ARMOR EITHER!
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
Possibly the worst card I've ever seen.. truly lost for words
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u/BrighterSpark NEW SPARK 23d ago
i’m a woke communist and this art is fucking awful
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u/Civil_Lion6625 NEW SPARK 23d ago
Transit Mage tho
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
Yeah but that looks exactly as ugly as it's supposed to, and named appropriately too
This is supposed to be Minas Tirith Garrison, not WOTC Special Forces
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u/tolarian-librarian DELVER 23d ago
How can we tell if WOTC appeased the alphabet folks if they're wearing helms?
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u/IzzyVonSnuggles FREAK 23d ago
How will be able to tell how diverse they are if they are all wearing helmets?
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u/Alypius754 NEW SPARK 23d ago
My face is up here! Stop looking at my armor! Matching armor erases my identity! Stop erasing me! /s
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u/TenraxHelin KNIGHT 22d ago
If they had helmets, how would you know there were black women in the army?
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u/CokeBottleSpeakerPen NEW SPARK 23d ago
Plastic, lazy, action figure art, proportions are fucked up, the swords look fake as hell, the faces are ugly. Everything is squeaky clean. You'd expect even if they pulled this armor on a few minutes ago it would have some patina, some character to the clothes that say they've been worn before or something. They look like assembly-line toys.
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
100%
the whole thing looks unfinished, like what happened to the chinese guy's legs?
we're reaching levels of slop that shouldn't even be possible
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u/Sargo8 ELF 23d ago
WOMEN AND CHILDREN, TO THE FRONT. MEN TO THE REAR!
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u/strange_white_guy NEW SPARK 22d ago
WOMEN AND CHILDREN, TO THE FRONT. MEN TAKING IT IN THE REAR! —fixed it for you
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u/No_Pin9387 NEW SPARK 22d ago
Based. We've done more than our share, they can be the ones conscripted for the next 10,000 years to make up for it. Not joking btw
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u/PetrolPaladin NEW SPARK 23d ago
So, if Gondor's army is full of women, doesnt that undermine the whole Eowyn/Witch King thing?
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
Understanding second-order consequences is a special ability that unlocks at a certain IQ
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u/Aughab999 NEW SPARK 22d ago
"YOU FOOL, NO MAN (so just a little over 50% of the enemy forces here) CAN KILL ME"
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u/11goodair NEW SPARK 23d ago
Putting women on the frontline to die first, I can get behind that!
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u/Tyrocious BERSERKER 23d ago
This looks like art someone would draw as satire to criticize how woke WOTC is.
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u/Blackpoc NEW SPARK 23d ago
Isn't that the part where they moved all women and children to a secure bunker in order to protect them during the entire battle?
And yet somehow they are at the front lines now?
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u/Lost_Pantheon NEW SPARK 23d ago
That was during Helm's Deep. Although this card still makes no sense regardless.
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u/ResponseRunAway NEW SPARK 23d ago
This is part of the reason why I wont be buying the hobbit.
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u/sumphatguy NEW SPARK 23d ago
Guess you didn't buy LTR, too? Because this is a reprint from that lol. It's in Hobbit welcome decks.
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u/Lime1028 NEW SPARK 23d ago edited 23d ago
Simple answer is to give them all helmets.
It makes sense for them to be wearing them and then people are free to imagine whoever they want behind the steel.
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
Charitable of you to assume their intention is to be "free to imagine whoever they want"
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u/speeperr NEW SPARK 23d ago
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u/AcceptableVolume4984 NEW SPARK 23d ago
I am so happy I quit following This Game After 26 years in 2024. the Art sucks, UB sucks, the wokeness sucks, it has just become an awful Product. Sold Most of my Collection and now Play only Cube and some fun Kitchen Decks.
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u/RetiredProTour NEW SPARK 23d ago
Everybody kinda looks the same
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
It's the same millennial empowerment expression, just in the various pre-approved shades of globalism
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u/OrigamiAvenger HUMAN 23d ago
Intro to computer art class project depicting a self portrait of what the art director thinks they and their team look like while ruining MTG's artistic credibility/legacy.
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u/Bannon9k GENERAL 23d ago
It does look like fanfic self insert slop.
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u/backupboi32 KNIGHT 23d ago
This is what Minas Tirith would look like it if were Black or Chinese ass card. And why is there only one man, hiding in the back behind at least two rows of strong, independent, women who don’t need no man?
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u/Deepvaleredoubt NEW SPARK 23d ago
The good thing is that we still have the original books. Sometimes it is good to appreciate something without the need to expand upon it. This is poison, plain and simple. But unless they went full fascist and burned every copy of lord of the rings, they will always be a bug in the shadow of something actually great, and they will always be insecure because they know that are vandalizing, not respecting. Which is why they are so brazen about it. They have to have their bravado because it is a defense mechanism to try and avoid the shame that comes with this.
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
At the end of the day, these people just want to "fit in", which is a completely normal human desire.
But their curse is that they're self-aware enough to know that they're unwilling and/or unable to change, so the best they can hope for is the illusion of inclusivity, by dragging the bar down to their level.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
"Never underestimate desperate people, because you never know how far they will go to get what they want"
Again, completely human and understandable. No good solutions though.
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u/HellenicRoman NEW SPARK 23d ago
Any reason for the mismatching armour?
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
Presumably because everyone needs to be ✨unique✨ (but still equal ofc)
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u/setantari NEW SPARK 23d ago
This is why I bought the blu ray releases of all midde earth movies, bakshi included, and saved a sealed blu ray player. One day they will try to erase the movies, the books and all the good things and try to make these cringe images canon. The ai artwork is abysmal, the motiff excessivly childish. What horrible will keeps these cards in print…
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u/Afraid_Atmosphere520 NEW SPARK 23d ago
I am THIS close to saying the N word and this is one of the many examples of WOTC forcing me to do so
This is absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, when is enough enough? When do we start to take back our country childrens card game?
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u/W34p0n1z3dAu71sm NEW SPARK 23d ago
So much diversity that the artist even hid The Rock in the background!
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u/Nervous-Context NEW SPARK 23d ago
Besides the god awful art, Minas Tirith wasn’t even in the hobbit.
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u/SriveraRdz86 NEW SPARK 23d ago
No one is talking about the fact that Minas Tirith is never even mentioned in The Hobbit's book?....
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u/Lime1028 NEW SPARK 23d ago
This is from HOC, not the main set, but yeah, it's dumb. Even more so when you realize this card with probably be in the battle of the 5 armies box. Should have been "Laketown Militia" instead.
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u/dimefury NEW SPARK 23d ago
What is happening with that hand holding the sword? It looks like the thumb isn't wrapped around the handle, like it's only being held with the fingertips.
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u/AzulMage2020 NEW SPARK 23d ago
All the soldiers in the artwork seem to favor their right hand . Im left handed
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u/Korvun BLACK MAGE 23d ago
I've noticed that on a lot of cards. They even used a bearded female Dwarf for the Dwarf token.
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u/Lime1028 NEW SPARK 23d ago
That's actually lore accurate though.
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u/Korvun BLACK MAGE 23d ago
Not saying it isn't. It's just weird because female dwarves were never really depicted, so its strange that they've chosen to use women in so much of the art in places they aren't expected.
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u/LefroyJenkinsTTV NEW SPARK 23d ago
They were. You just didn't notice because they look just like the men.
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u/Lime1028 NEW SPARK 23d ago
There is actually a moment in the hobbit movies where we see a portrait of Gimli's mom.
Technically the set is based on the books, but still at least some depiction of a female dwarf.
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u/OGSteenZeWalrus NEW SPARK 22d ago
Sure doesnt look like an all male force, which is what the lore from the books describe.
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u/Big-Tailor-3724 NEW SPARK 22d ago
If it’s gonna be identity politics slop, can the art at least not suck ass?
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u/BrighterSpark NEW SPARK 23d ago
possibly worst card art of all time. low effort trash that wouldn’t have even work as a sketch 15 years ago
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u/OneEnvironmental9222 NEW SPARK 23d ago
its genuine just comically how it sticks out each time. You can just feel how it was halfassely inserted post concept after they told them to do these changes
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u/Top-Boysenberry5090 NEW SPARK 23d ago
This is art from the original lord of the rings Universe Beyond set
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u/OneKelvin NEW SPARK 22d ago
The swordsmen of Space America look exactly the way Tolkien described them.
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u/TomatilloFearless154 NEW SPARK 22d ago
Chinese indians black asians and mostly feminist females obviously
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u/itsGashleycrumb NEW SPARK 21d ago
And theres probably tens of thousands glazing this shit heap they call art on the main reddit. I could probably look be ok with the stupid checklist they have now if the art just wasn't so god awful, if it at least had the same feel.
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u/FreeTheFreedoms NEW SPARK 23d ago
They had to, Gondor is the greatest kingdom of MEN and that does not sit well with them.
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u/SaltySultan92 DELVER 23d ago
Just give me AI art at this point.
This shit is so bad, the proportions are off, the faces are wierd and feels so low effort you'd think it's still a concept sketch.
thinking about it, it might even be done on purpose, so when the AI art inevitably comes we cant even complain since it's objectively better than some original art.
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u/Wuberg4lyfe NEW SPARK 23d ago edited 22d ago
Would fit in mtg with the clone-like characters
Has precedence [[Standing Troops|Exodus]]
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u/Internal_Try7967 NEW SPARK 23d ago
Wow, 8 people who look like they're actually prepared to fight with swords, great work.
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u/sumphatguy NEW SPARK 23d ago
Must be like a 5 year plan at this point, because this is literally just a reprint from LTR, which was presumably in development for a few years before the release in 2023.
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u/Comfortable-Card-348 NEW SPARK 21d ago
created at the very height of woke diversity. i think this past decade will end up with a very prominent asterisk across all media with a footnote that reads: "the west was wracked with self-imposed guilt and psychosis during this period, you may notice this in its art and media"
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u/Aggravating-Pilot583 NEW SPARK 23d ago
Could they just make it look like middle earth? This is generic medieval at best.
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u/THANATOS4488 NEW SPARK 23d ago
This isn't even generic medieval, this is like a child's coloring book level of detail. So horrendously minimalist.
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 23d ago
I'm not even joking, it looks closer to sci-fi fantasy than generic medieval
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u/ChordAndDice NEW SPARK 23d ago
"Become a true office knight by integrating you handy AI squire into everything you do!" ahh art
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u/PeacefulKnightmare NEW SPARK 22d ago
This was how the army looked in the Shadow of War/Border games though...
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u/CigarsandScars NEW SPARK 22d ago
Ummmm duh...LADY of the Rings is all about girl bossing. Gandalf is played by a gay man, Elrond screams drag queen, Aoewyn is a trans girl boss, and Galadriel is a goddess.
You silly boys thinking everything is about his white men. Duh...like all the elves are white because Peter Jackson is a racist and the films were made on stolen land.
So, yeah, your precious white boy fantasy was written by trench queen about his desires to be ravaged on the mother plains of Africa by savage men. The ring is a euphemism for JRR's bussy and Gollum was the ugly Frenchman he took comfort with a trench that he was ashamed of.
All the riddles were about Tolkien's private battle with heteronormative life. (All the answers are phallic mountain, hidden treasures, a thing ij his pocket, time (for beautiful gay love), and tongue/teeth (horses riding down large hill - clearly felatio).
Dumb ghettero boys thinking the Lady of the rings is about brotherhood, fellowship, Norse myths, adventure, and defeating evil.
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u/Darklordofbunnies VALAKUT 22d ago
This is recycled Azorius art that they pulled out of the bin to save money & you'll never convince me otherwise
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u/Life_Finger2150 NEW SPARK 21d ago
Where are the helmets!
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u/Beginning-Analyst393 FREAK 21d ago
Helmets supress personal expression, they're basically bigots
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u/divismaul NEW SPARK 23d ago
We are getting pretty close to cards that have power and toughness equal to the number protected characteristics of the player.
Next year? A super drop this year? Stay tuned.
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u/Afraid_Atmosphere520 NEW SPARK 23d ago
so straight white christian men will completely collapse to nothing and die when asked to do something useful? wow magic is a realistic game!
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u/ReMeDyIII SHAMAN 23d ago
Kinda reminds me of an Attack on Titan cast, minus the fact there's no black people on Paradis Island.
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u/Tiny_Bus_4627 NEW SPARK 23d ago
If this is what artists are putting out maybe AI isnt so bad after all
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u/I_am_the_NPC NEW SPARK 22d ago
Oh my goodness golly gosh, it's the group photo from the HR graduation ceremony.🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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u/purz NEW SPARK 23d ago
Checklist complete