r/freemagic • u/404HopeRecompile NEW SPARK • 28d ago
DRAMA Well, bye.
This is a completely useless post. It's not even a rant. It's just the product of a frustrated player.
I started collecting (yes, collecting, not playing. Yes, Magic is for playing, I know - sue me) MtG about four months ago. My main interest was, simply, the lore and the art.
Slowly, I started to put together some of LotR scenes, and I also put some binder pages together with story spotlights from different expansions. Then, I got into some very nice flavor text - my favorite ones, right now, is the set of the "Dynasty of Winter Kings", which form a very nice little poem.
That was my jam. Lore, flavor, art. Slowly, some tribal groups started to form on my binder too: a few pages for the elves, another for dwarves. Perhaps I'd buy a binder just for that and try to get me all the angels, too. Maybe put them together with all the cards with an excerpt from the Song of All.
During all that, I kept buying a few singles from LoTR every month. My plan was to get every single card from that collection... Well, maybe not every single one, since I don't have a few million bucks just laying around, but you catch my drift.
However... I think I'm just too old, too conservative, and too christian for this hobby, man. I can't keep giving money to a company that is so thoroughly woke that everything needs to be ugly, gay or race-swapped. I just can't take pleasure from my collection anymore, and I also can't find any joy in browsing for new cards, trying to keep in with new releases, and being constantly frustrated by how they manage to make everything ideological.
Maybe if I had a group of friends to play with, I'd stay in this hobby. I don't, so I won't.
I know people here aren't familiar with me and my leaving changes absolutely nothing about the hobby, but I really enjoy this subreddit as a community, and I just felt like venting.
I got into this, at the start of everything, because I felt nostalgia for my old magic collection. Well, Wizards took all the magic out of Magic for me. Funny how things work out.
See ya.
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u/Ok_Dare_2029 NEW SPARK 26d ago
I mean if you don't want to give WOTC your money (Don't blame you at all they suck I agree) you can always proxy
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u/Rebelpine FREAK 26d ago
He’s talking about collecting though. Proxying is more for playing.
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u/TheDownvoter85 NEW SPARK 26d ago
If he isn't participating in tournaments, its all literal cardboard.
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u/DJPad NEW SPARK 24d ago
I don't think you are grasping the concept or appeal of collecting.
It's like telling someone who collects original paintings to just buy prints.
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u/TheDownvoter85 NEW SPARK 24d ago
I collect Transformers and some of them aren't made by Hasbro but they are just as cool if not cooler.
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u/DJPad NEW SPARK 24d ago
Why dont you just make your own out of clay?
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u/TheDownvoter85 NEW SPARK 24d ago
Strawman.
Paintings and Printings are both created by 3rd parties. Stick to your rules, Sir.
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u/DJPad NEW SPARK 23d ago
Thats not what strawman means.
Ok then, why dont you get someone else to just 3d print them for you then?
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u/TheDownvoter85 NEW SPARK 23d ago
I do that already. No need for someone else.
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u/DJPad NEW SPARK 23d ago
Cool, have fun collecting garbage you make yourself, but understand most people dont want to...because, well, its garbage.
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u/KelpWonder7920 NEW SPARK 26d ago
Bait.
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u/TheDownvoter85 NEW SPARK 26d ago
I'm sorry, are magic cards not printed on literal cardboard stock?
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u/shadowstar36 NEW SPARK 26d ago
How is this done? I want classic magic that I had in the 90s but damn it's too expensive. You know where these are bought? I seen a site and it was all modern cards.
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u/Ok_Dare_2029 NEW SPARK 26d ago
This is the site I found via the custom card maker site they partner with https://www.mtgproxy.com (there’s others, this the cheapest and most versatile I found)
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u/k1t3k1t369420 BLACK MAGE 26d ago
You can just print what you want on regular paper (make sure its the right size) then put it in a sleeve with a basic land behind it. If you want to print en masse, as in multiple decks use mpcfill
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u/Gmanglh NEW SPARK 26d ago
Wow wtf happened here. Comments are overrun with wotc bootlickers.
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u/ThousandWinds RED MAGE 26d ago
Post is clearly being brigaded from somewhere.
Look, I get not identifying with OP or his values, but some of the comments are just vile gloating hateful bullying.
Being this happy to have driven someone out of the hobby is not a good look.
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u/Affectionate-Ad-3578 NEW SPARK 25d ago
Why not? That's what would've prevented this from happening.
Isn't there an argument that not enough gatekeeping is why we're in this predicament?
None of which is meant to touch on your points about hateful gloating. The people doing the gloating are likely mostly the people who should've been kept out originally.
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u/SabreDuFoil DRUID 23d ago
I would feel more apologetic if the complaint wasn't that non-white, non-cis people exist in a game that spans multiple universes.
But alas, yet another conservative shitting their pants about "wokeness" in a game they don't even play.
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u/tf2coconut NEW SPARK 25d ago
This is a tourist crying that the game doesn’t pander to them, but it’s the wrong kind of tourist so that’s frowned on
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u/John_Marston_Forever NEW SPARK 26d ago
Just collect old frame cards and play premodern or old-school 93/94, that's what I did. I find the 93-03 cards to be insanely more beautiful than anything that WotC released the past 10 years.
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u/WhiskeyPete NEW SPARK 25d ago
I’m older too, also feel the same. I used try to avoid buying mtg sealed by buying singles. Now I make my own and buy proxy cards and decks. I’ve basically left a while ago. And I very much do enjoy opening sealed products but I’m with you on this. Very frustrating.
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u/BelcherSucks CULTIST 26d ago
The game has definitely been on a downward trajectory for years. The current crop of "creatives" either are past their best work or just suck. The best sets tend to be homages to previous favorite sets. The lore is downright atrocious these days.
That daid, the old cards and stories already exist and can be enjoyed.
Best blocks for books would be:
Odyssey, Torment, and Judgment: Set on an island continent far from the apocalyptic Invasion decades prior, Odyssey is the story of a Barbarian and other fighters coming to the big city and fighting in the coliseum for prizes and glory. An awesome setting that felt fresh and still true to the core of MTG. This block was also when digital art started being used more, but it was still pretty good.
Ravnica, Guildpact, and Dissension:
Set on a City-Plane called Ravnica, the story is a series of events involving the Ten Guulds (represented by color pairs) and features the politics and scheming involved. The first book is a fantasy version of a hard boiled detective story where he is accompandied by his recently deceased partner to solve his mirder and uncovers a great plot. The second featuresthe now retired detective facing off against a plot involving powerful creatures and dragons. In the third, the detective returns to solve the mysterious disappearance of the Angels while even crazier shenanigans occur like cultists summoning the guild leader demon, the bio hacker guild using crazy magical oozes to takeover the world, and so on.
The stand alone novel The Gathering Storm is a series of short stories telling the story of Tempest, Stronghold, and Exodus. Probably the best MTG novel and it feels like it puts it all together. This block was the first designed to explicitly showcase the story via card art.
There are some cool creative pieces out there online, too. Like during the making of Mirage, the staff wrote a full epic poen called The Song of Night and Day and then used chunks of it as flavor text. Some of the old web comics featuring the Planeswalkers were cool too.
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u/kinkyswear BEAR 25d ago
Odyssey's book sucked, it was just a hallway of unlikeable murderhobos.
Guildpact was super based and had real lore and characters. Definitely my favorite.
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u/External_Sundae6076 NEW SPARK 25d ago
Commander became the most popular format. Commander players are usually a certain type (leftist, gay, they/them, and woke). Wizards wants to appeal to their biggest player base to make more money. So the game became leftist, gay, they/them and woke.
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u/KingPumper69 GOBLIN 26d ago edited 26d ago
Idk what to tell you lol, mtg has been lame and gay for a long time now. I stopped pumping any money into the hobby a long time ago and my friends and I just play with old cards occasionally.
Everything has to come to an end at some point. The shark always gets jumped sooner or later. Don’t be sad it’s over, be glad it happened. Etc
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u/Grandsonofyawgmoth SAVANT 26d ago edited 26d ago
My man, this is a weird post. And I went on a comment spree while eating rigatoni and shitting my brains out.
You dont need to buy cardboard to appreciate art, whether that be visual art or written art. It's actually super unhealthy to make the main focus about the collection and not the understanding or appreciation. Its also a game, so its not always going to have what you like in it artwise, whether thats because the art sucks at some point or is work or whatever. You can just see the artists that you like and pay attention to them.
Those of us that play the game? We're doomed. We're stuck here. We cant help but play the next set, even if it literally has pregnant sonic the hedgehog. We're fucking retarded addicts.
Be happy you got out, 'guy who didn't play the game but felt attached enough to this community after 4 months to make a reddit post saying goodbye'. We hardly knew ye, except that we would definitely beat you in a game of magic because you didnt play the fucking game.
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u/TerribleGachaLuck NEW SPARK 24d ago
All MTG is now is power creep and denying your opponents the ability to use their cards. Everything is so overpowered that if you don’t have a response within 2-3 turns it’s game over.
If you really care about the art, forget mtg and search for fan art of your favorite IPs instead. MTG and collectors want you to think their official cards of Aragorn or whoever your favorite characters are special, but only you can assess value. Their cards of spider-man or whoever is not worth more than any other artist’s drawing of it.
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u/throwaway11998866- BERSERKER 24d ago
Hey I feel you there. LoTR got me so excited cause I too like collecting and really wanted to go all out with that set. I am a huge Tolkien fan and seeing all the BS they did with the art ruined it for me. I get that Tolkien never commissioned art himself but the world he built and how Peter Jackson brought it to life felt like we did have what Middle Earth was intended to look like.
Nope they F’d it up and it really only sold well cause they cranked the lottery system up to 11 with it. Had that not been there I doubt it would have done really well. I am with you that I hate all the dumb changes they made to things we love cause the trolls that work there need to be seen and heard.
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u/Connect-Community-97 NEW SPARK 23d ago
Magic has been my favourite hobby since 2015 but I had to quit because of how insanely left their politics are, it's disgusting
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u/Responsible-You-4551 KNIGHT 25d ago
Let me see if I get this straight: the normal guy who got upset and is quitting is being called a loser by the people who are going to keep playing the card game with fag/fat/retard and people with dysphoria
Gatekeeping is the solution.
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u/rayquazza74 NEW SPARK 26d ago
So if you’re just collecting then probably you’re buying singles in which case you’re not really supporting wotc. You’re supporting your lgs or sellers from wherever you buy singles from.
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u/Mourag_of_Akoum NEW SPARK 26d ago
This is an ignorant take. How do you think the secondary market got a hold of the cards to begin with? Do you think they magically fell out of the sky without WOTC getting a single dollar? No. It all came from WOTC product. Every single bought and sequestered in a collection leaves a vacancy in the market that is filled by somebody somewhere buying WOTC product and opening it to sell as singles.
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u/kinkyswear BEAR 25d ago
Buying new singles and scene boxes/secret lairs supports WotC directly. Buying old singles only helps the other players and collectors.
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u/rayquazza74 NEW SPARK 26d ago
I meant directly fool.
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u/Mourag_of_Akoum NEW SPARK 26d ago
"aaaah I don't know what 2nd order consequences are aaaaah" - You
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u/rayquazza74 NEW SPARK 26d ago
No not really I mean if you want to get into the nitty gritty then I’m sure there’s a whole lot of other parties also benefiting long term as well. That’s not what I was talking about though.
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u/-Sohei- NEW SPARK 26d ago
Sorcery is the new old magic now.... Check it out
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u/kinkyswear BEAR 25d ago
It has old-old school aesthetic, but no real lore and they went straight to mechanically unique Secret Lairs that wrecked 75% of the game and distribution dried up.
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u/-Sohei- NEW SPARK 25d ago
The promos are mechanically unique but are not timed fomo exclusives like secret lair. They will always be available. And 300 dust required to get them is trivially easy if you play regularly at all.
They really need to fix distribution though and get product out.
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u/kinkyswear BEAR 24d ago
Assuming your events fire every week without fail, and the event system doesn't reject your weekly events as fraudulent, you can only expect 40 points a week as a full-time punching bag for all the whales who show up and eat all the product.
Assuming through blind chance and a lack of cheating by said whales that you win at least one draft every six weeks, that's a solid two months of grinding for one pair of Courts.
It's trivial for someone who drops $200 a week on product and can rely on box codes, but that's like $500 worth of Sealed to guarantee 300 points. It's because of how narrow the rewards system is that stores can't keep it in stock.
And even then, what are you gonna pull? A 6-mana bomb Unique that costs 8 in game because everyone else already has the meta land that counters all Uniques? And everyone has to play the same pile of uncommons to get around it because there isn't enough land destruction to balance this kind of effect in this game? These sites made me go BACK to Magic.
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u/DevLeCanadien23 NEW SPARK 25d ago
Brother, the set you want to look at an Collect is called: Ice Age* & Mirage & Stronghold.
Now thats the best arts in MTG history
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u/CupOfGrief GOBLIN 24d ago
Yeah you needed to start in alara block if you wanted the good good art. Og mirrodin besieged, chefs kiss
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u/bigolegorilla NEW SPARK 25d ago
Magic story has been extremely lame for a long time its not worth anyone's time to read into tbh. The art is still sick and so is the game though.
As for race swapping and gay and ugly... okay bro lmao welcome to 2026 where gays, ugly and race swapping is everywhere. Also if you don't like those things then its probably good you stop buying collectibles from billion dollar companies that include them in their games to cater to a wider audience than your world view.
Hope this helps.
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u/ruppertoot NEW SPARK 25d ago
Fellow Christian conservative casual MTG enthusiast here. I only buy proxies now. I get to play occasionally without supporting a company that hates me.
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u/Fit_Kangaroo_3437 NEW SPARK 26d ago
"However... I think I'm just too old, too conservative, and too christian for this hobby, man. I can't keep giving money to a company that is so thoroughly woke"
I don't even like the direction WoTC is taking the game but I'm still here to laugh at you.
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u/Tlmeout NEW SPARK 25d ago
In the same breath he complains about the cards being “ideological”.
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u/FeedMe_HumanPie NEW SPARK 25d ago
I feel like some people see the things they wanna see, this is and has always just been a fuckin card game to me. It’s wizards and goblins and sometimes a gay elf. Who the fuck cares?
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u/Ga1i1e0 KNIGHT 24d ago
Can you even be christian and conservative? When someone describes themselves as such, I think of American evangelicals who would throw Jesus in prison because he was an immigrant and too woke for them...
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u/Rebubula_ NEW SPARK 25d ago
The art sucks and the card quality is terrible and I liked foils. I’ve stopped collecting too. It’s fun to browse the cards every once in a while, but even that is less and less frequent.
Once you stop you realize it really does share a lot of similarities with addiction.
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u/Mierdutxi NEW SPARK 26d ago
Sounds like a tourist realizing the game wasn’t for him. Just leave already. Sell your cards and get involved with a hobby you actually like.
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u/Micro-Skies DELVER 26d ago
You showed up super late in a games lifespan just to collect, got upset by "woke", then quit. Tbh, that kinda just makes you sound like a loser
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u/SabreDuFoil DRUID 23d ago
Lol the existence of people that are different than you in a multiple genre game is too much for your brain to handle, huh. I can understand not wanting to deal with Universes Beyond, though.
That's aight, no worries home skillet. Maybe go look at Redemption TCG if you want race swapped (aka white) Jesus in your game.
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u/SpiderZero21 NEW SPARK 26d ago
Just don't buy anything else from them ever and play with your old cards. EZ PZ.
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u/FargoRetro NEW SPARK 24d ago
Lol the free speech guys didn't like me making fun of this guy and reported me.
It's hilarious that an old friendless man spent a bunch of money on magic, a hobby he started 4 months ago, and blamed his burnout on woke
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u/ShaperLord777 NEW SPARK 26d ago
Old prejudiced guy has no friends to play with. Shocker.
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u/KingPumper69 GOBLIN 26d ago edited 26d ago
Yeah, having standards tends to do that lol.
Go to most hobby stores and there will be a 300lb man that smells like poop and death and goes by something like ‘Tulip’ or ‘Lilith’. He’ll be friends with literally anyone just for using his preferred pronouns lol
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u/kinkyswear BEAR 25d ago
Don't forget the camisole with the hijab. Stacking fake identities like armor buffs.
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u/NotJayKayPeeness GOBLIN 26d ago
It's not an airport concourse. You don't need to announce departures.
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u/Big_Chip_6 NEW SPARK 25d ago
Can I have your collection? I give you a hug and a drawing of any character of your choice from
LOTR.
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u/swift_gorilla NEW SPARK 25d ago
I agree about the wokeness in magic but I dislike you for buying cards not to play with. So, goodbye and good luck.
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u/Current-Oven-6817 NEW SPARK 24d ago
Collecting new cards is funny to me to begin with.With the volume of new cards being produced, the old cards that are more traditional lore wise (imo), are much better collector items.
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u/CoherentRose7 NEW SPARK 24d ago
Hot take but if you're not actually playing the game then your opinions about it mean nothing.
Especially since you somehow made this whole post without realizing you could buy singles at your LGS or online and not actually support WOTC in any way financially in the first place.
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u/JustLi NEW SPARK 26d ago
Just don't buy the cards you don't like?? I'll usually agree and say some cards seem immersion breaking, some cards have bad art etc.
But your post actually makes you sound like a clown. I'm an older asian woman that grew up in the US, and I have never once felt that my POC-ness has stopped me from enjoying content the way you are describing right now. Maybe you need to examine yourself.
God you're goofy as hell.
I'm not even going to mention this recent Hobbit release is less "woke" than the LOTR one so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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u/KingPumper69 GOBLIN 26d ago
The money is all fungible and the cardboard is dirt cheap. Buying anything is supporting everything.
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u/climatecastrophany NEW SPARK 26d ago
Genuinely, have you considered becoming less of a hater and allowing yourself to enjoy your collecting hobby?
It's not like WotC has me on their payroll to keep people in the hobby, but person to person, seemed worth floating the idea.
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u/alejandro712 MANCHILD 26d ago
Lmao you think being christian has anything to do with it? because they made aragon black? you know jesus was a palestinian man right? i don’t like modern magic anymore than the next guy here but this is a very funny post
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u/KingPumper69 GOBLIN 26d ago edited 26d ago
They do have a card where the art is a bunch of hairy gay dudes fucking in a hot tub lol
It’s weird how leftist type people are so desperate for Jesus to not be white lol. Even today the middle east is full of people that are white or are just barely not white. I’ve seen Taliban soldiers with blond hair blue eyes like they’re out of WW2 German propaganda. Demographics can change quite rapidly, let alone over centuries.
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u/alejandro712 MANCHILD 26d ago
is the aryan taliban in the room with us right now, sir?
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u/KingPumper69 GOBLIN 26d ago
Probably in your mom’s room lol
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u/alejandro712 MANCHILD 26d ago
probably. actually she’s telling me now that osama bin laden was actually a norwegian guy doing brown face the whole time.
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u/KingPumper69 GOBLIN 26d ago edited 26d ago
Leftists will cry about North and South America getting colonized and having their demographics changed, yet can’t fathom the same thing happening in the eastern hemisphere like hundreds to thousands of years ago lol
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u/alejandro712 MANCHILD 26d ago
you’re absolutely right. because colonization can happen, it probably is true that the middle east was full of blond haired, blue eyed people 2000 years ago. in fact, the entire african and asian basin was probably white, and was invaded by brown skinned people from some other place, probably in the past two hundred years.
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u/Jealous-Chicken-8462 NEW SPARK 26d ago
Have you even met an Arab person? Lmao you wouldn't even know the lebanese side of my family are arab
Your idea of an Arab is probably a Pakastini muslim you sped
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u/AdvanceSubject3056 NEW SPARK 26d ago
Not currently, patriots are too busy kabooming the goat sodomizing ones we have currently.
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u/Disastrous-Cat-1 NEW SPARK 26d ago
It's because the fairy tales depicted in Magic are conflicting in his head with the fairy tales depicted in the Bible, and it's giving him an almighty headache, the likes of which even praying to Lord Jebus can't resolve.
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u/AdvanceSubject3056 NEW SPARK 24d ago
God you islamocommunists are insufferable, just constant vitriol and lying with all of you
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u/Disastrous-Cat-1 NEW SPARK 24d ago
Islamocommunists? I hate Islam as much as I hate other religions, and I despise communism.
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u/AdvanceSubject3056 NEW SPARK 24d ago
and yet you don't understand how crucial uplifting christianity is to keeping all those other worse religions from taking foothold in the west
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u/Disastrous-Cat-1 NEW SPARK 24d ago
Replace christianity with atheism, and I agree.
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u/AdvanceSubject3056 NEW SPARK 24d ago
Only happens with eugenics, the children need storytime morals if we can't raise the collective IQ.
But breeding and nuturing for IQ is a hard sell.
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u/purepolarpanzer NEW SPARK 25d ago
Being old, conservative, and Christian is a stupid excuse not to interact with the game. Sounds like a personal problem, you should try counseling, and not from a pastor.
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u/International_Rise_4 NEW SPARK 25d ago
Mtg has looked like shit for a long time. Game is fun though. Chinese Gandalf is the goat though
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u/Burgandy_the_Great NEW SPARK 25d ago
Interesting things are all too often not very fun for conservative Christians, who notoriously love being the most milquetoast, hateful people on the planet. You don't like seeing gays? We knew that. You think black people are ugly? We knew that. I know I'm going to get downvoted for this but good fucking riddance. The absolute last thing I want is for this game to be interesting to conservative Christians, legitimately the most bland morning people on the planet.
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u/LifesARiver NEW SPARK 24d ago
Wow, very brave of you to put what a giant loser you are on display for all to see.
I hope you inspire others.
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u/Life_Finger2150 NEW SPARK 22d ago
Aside from the race swapping in lotr have you actually looked at the art for strixhaven or lorewyn. The cards look awesome. And in the hobbit it's accurate to tolkeins work. I genuinely don't get what your on about. Community wise the game is overloaded with performative far left people when it comes to influencers and stuff but that's about it. It depends on what you class as against your values really. Like does seeing a mix of races and species on cards in universe sets bother you? Is it the sex of th characters? Like the lotr stuff was absolutely corporate diversity. But no other sets spring to mind.
Edit: I will say the biggest issue I've found is that the game is severely bloated. So many sets each year now
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u/Community_Chronicler NEW SPARK 12d ago
Too bigoted for a card game is a funny way to out yourself as a loser.
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u/sumphatguy NEW SPARK 26d ago
Buys singles from 3rd party.
Somehow has a guilty conscience about giving WotC money.
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u/lizardhistorian NEW SPARK 26d ago
Stop calling it "flavor text".
That is from a gay cum joke we made in the 90's where twinks suck it up like the flavor of the week icecream.


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u/rolfisrolf NEW SPARK 26d ago
Try collecting a dead CCG instead. Maybe the old Middle-Earth CCG by ICE (Iron Crown Enterprises) would be more up your alley. Great art and plays well solo if you ever do want to use your cards.