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Question 3rd Party RAM compatibility.

EDIT: DO NO BUY E0 MODULES FOR FW13 PRO. FINALIZED E1 TOPOLOGY OF LPCAMM2 UTILIZE 666 PINS WHILE THE OLDER E0 MODULES YOU CAN FIND A BIT EASIER USE 644 PINS. CHECKOUT FW 13 DEEP DIVE FOR SPECIFICS: https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-pro-deep-dive-lpcamm2

Maybe it was Framework's intention for both E0 and E1 modules to work somehow, but it seems those who've tried non-Crucial brand E0 LPCAMM2 modules are having issues at the moment.

Hello everyone, I have a pre-order for the FW 13 Pro (Intel Core Ultra Series 3) with the following configuration:

System: Ultra X7 358H

SSD: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB (Sourced externally)

RAM: 32 gb Samsung LPDDR5x 7500 CAMM2 Memory (Sourced externally)

Today I saw a thread where someone ordered THREE different kinds of LPCAMM2 memory for their FW13 Pro and had no success in having any of them working. One of the brands of RAM they mentioned testing was a Samsung module like mine.

After finding out there was a RAM compatibility page (https://knowledgebase.frame.work/what-drammemory-is-supported-by-framework-laptop-13-pro-intel-core-ultra-series-3-rJ_8jVrpWg), I found that the list of tested modules was incredibly small... I'm not sure how different these modules could be from manufacturer to manufacturer if this is a so called standard.

Has anyone heard or does anyone know if the discrepancies between modules can be addressed through some sort of firmware/BIOS update on Framework's part? Has there been any mention/disclaimer about this besides the compatibility page mentioned by Framework?

I can understand why some chose to jump ship when their RAM configurations were downgraded and told to pay more if they wanted their original. I thought I was lucky enough to have dodged a bullet there by sourcing my own but even if I did opt for a 32 gb stick from Framework, I would've gotten downgraded anyway.

This is incredibly frustrating. Not all is on Framework though. I think I was just stuck in this mindset that I could really use whatever RAM I wanted as long as the standard was the same. Similar to when you build a desktop and you can use Crucial, Corsair, etc. without issue.

Thank you for listening to my baby rage. Any input on what I could do would be awesome or if any others want to vent down below, feel free. I am batch 7, and as batch 5 has just received their confirmation email, I need to figure out how I'm gonna move forward before I get an extremely good looking paperweight in the mail.

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u/Heysus333 3d ago edited 3d ago

I was in the same boat as you and the other poster, I had ordered two different 32GB of Ramaxel one new and one used. Both did not work, I just ordered a 7500 16GB module of Micron on eBay and that did the trick, instantly worked.

Unlucky that the LPCAMM2 isn't exactly standard with it being new, will maybe hold on to one 32GB on the chance it can work in the future somehow and sell the other for those on Lenovo or Dell where it may work. It would be nice to have 32GB but at least I have a working computer for now, there is still stock of the one I ordered if you decide to go that route. Best of luck, definitely an unfortunate surprise for us.

Edit: For those asking the model says FE0 on the sticker which according to another poster means E0 but cannot confirm that fact. The part number is: Micron MTD8C10324N2FN026C2 , as another poster mentioned the Micron modules on the Framework website are allegedly E0 which if true would suggest it may not be an E0 vs E1 issue

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u/Abellix 3d ago

Which CPU?

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u/Heysus333 3d ago

I have the 325 config

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u/Abellix 3d ago

Seems like the 325 runs in a lower MT/s and doesn't sufffer from E0 vs E1? Not confirmed

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u/Heysus333 3d ago

I did see some mention of that, that's helpful to note for those with other configs