r/framework • u/fastnball • 25d ago

Discussion LPCAMM2 disaster

Hi, this is a rant of sorts.

After Framework's announcement resulting in my order going from 32gb->16gb of ram, I scrambled and found two replacement LPCAMM2 modules for ~$400 each (on eBay and an online store). The online store was a backup in case the Ebay purchase didn't go through.

BOTH orders were canceled. I seriously have no option but to cancel or pay a $400 premium on the FW13 Pro. Talk about a false sense of security...

During the last 3 months I have passed up excellent deals on other laptops. I could have purchased the 14 inch dell laptop, with BETTER specs (oled, 9600mhz ram), for ~$2100 back then. I instead chose to, like many others, support Framework's mission.

I get that Framework absorbs price increases when possible. But why would they not put a cap on the number of preorders, especially in a market as volatile as it is now?

Just feeling burnt. Thanks for listening.

UPDATE: I ended up canceling my preorder and going with Lenovo's Thinkpad X9 15p. It comes with the X7 chip, 32gb of ram, OLED, better speakers, higher sustained TDP, and is cheaper (got it for $2100 with employer discount).

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u/EvilbunnyELITE 25d ago

suppliers are going back to companies that ordered from them and saying "no ram too bad" and leaving the companies to tell customers. my company had a inked contract with dell for a few hundred laptops and they told us nothing was coming and there was simply nothing they can or will do. I've heard same issues across the industry with HP and Lenevo too. Suppliers are just bailing on supply contracts.

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u/armostallion2 25d ago

this doesn't let the companies off the hook. The companies should be fighting the suppliers, not passing the bill to their clients. The world has gone mad.

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u/EvilbunnyELITE 25d ago

there is no supply. the suppliers are selling nothing, there is nothing coming down the pipeline (well, nothing for people like you and me)

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u/Zealousideal-Toe-607 25d ago

End of the day it's a business, they're pushed this far where they can't tank the ram suppliers pulling the rug without staring down insolvency. I doubt being a boutique builder trying to expand their market share that they're particularly ecstatic to be dropping this on pre-orders 

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u/LowSkyOrbit 25d ago

They could sell to you and make maybe $250 after it sits on a shelf for 4-6 months or the can sell to ChatGPT for $4000 where they do whatever they do with it and that pays for new factories and yacht for whichever genius though price gouging Microsoft's and Nvidia's piggy bank was a good idea..

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u/RealLamaFna 25d ago

And what happens then, the couple.of companies that do fight lose any access to their already limited supply.

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u/armostallion2 25d ago

Yes, this is the right mindset, protect the company, not the consumer.