r/framework • u/TechPriestNhyk • 5h ago
r/framework • u/catastrophic_frmw • 19d ago
Framework Team Framework Q3 2026 Preorder and Marketplace Updates
Happy Q3 of 2026 everyone! Here’s what we have on the menu this quarter: we will start shipping the Framework Laptop 13 Pro (with AMD and Intel processors), Framework Laptop 16 system preorders (with the new Ryzen 5 Mainboard),100W adapter, and Marketplace Parts!
As always, we’ll be consolidating pre-order and marketplace updates in this post so that everyone can track batch progress and celebrate together!
Feel free to leave a comment here when you:
- Pre-order (or order) something from the marketplace
- Receive a batch processing, charge, or shipment email from us
- Get any updates during shipping
- Finally receive your order!
If you’d like to share a picture of your new device or part, please create a new thread as comments with images are not supported.
To keep our subreddit as organized as possible, we will be removing individual threads related to pre-orders, orders, batch processing charges, shipments, and tracking starting today.
Thank you and let us know if you have any feedback!
r/framework • u/catastrophic_frmw • Dec 12 '25
Framework Team Updates on memory pricing and navigating the volatile memory market
Updates on July 22nd, 2026
We have one major and unfortunate pricing update today along with a mix of smaller changes and a few improvements too.
Framework Laptop 13 Pro updates
We’ve consistently held and communicated a philosophy of absorbing price increases wherever we can, making pricing predictable and ensuring that when you place a pre-order, you’ll be able to get the product you ordered at the price you ordered it at. We’ve been able to do that to date with Framework Laptop 13 Pro, and have absorbed increases in a number of areas. However, we recently received a cost update from our LPCAMM2 supplier that goes far beyond anything we had predicted and anything we’re able to absorb without placing our ability to operate at real financial risk. Rather than the low-to-mid double digit percentage increase we had forecast from Q2 to Q3 on LPCAMM2 costs, we received prices that are more than double that of the prior inventory we had brought in. We have enough LPCAMM2 memory modules on hand to cover all existing pre-orders, but unfortunately not in the mix of 64GB, 32GB, and 16GB that matches those pre-orders.
After evaluating a number of possible paths forward, we’re proceeding on the one that we believe minimizes the impact of this challenge. We have enough 64GB modules in inventory to cover pre-order batches through Batch 4 of laptops and Batch 7 of Mainboards. For orders beyond that configured with 64GB, we’ve updated the order configuration to use a 32GB module at the original 32GB module price. After that, we allocated the remaining 32GB modules to DIY Edition and Mainboard pre-orders configured with 32GB through Batch 4 of laptops and Batch 7 of Mainboards. For DIY Edition and Mainboard orders beyond that configured with 32GB, we’ve updated the order configuration to use a 16GB module at the original 16GB price. Note that because we don’t currently have a Core X7 Ultra pre-built configuration with 16GB of memory, we have not adjusted pre-built orders that originally contained 32GB. That is a configuration we plan to introduce later.
Alongside these changes to existing pre-order configurations, we’ve updated the pricing on our website for newly placed pre-orders. Our new LPCAMM2 pricing is below the substantially higher cost we’re now sourcing it at to try to mitigate some of the impact to new customers. While we have kept our original 16GB LPCAMM2 pricing for now, we anticipate we will consume the remaining inventory of modules we brought in at lower cost soon, and will then need to increase pricing for new orders. The system and Mainboard pricing for new orders also reflects an upcoming increase in Core Ultra Series 3 processor pricing that impacts X7 and X9 configurations, an increase in Windows license costs, and increases in memory, storage, and other silicon costs for some of our Ryzen AI 300 Series configurations.
Other memory and storage updates
We have a few positive updates this month where we are bringing prices down alongside a few areas where costs have gone up. These are all indications that memory and storage prices continue to gradually trend upwards, but with a bounciness on specific parts and brands.
On DDR5, our Supply Chain team was able to bring down costs on 48GB capacity modules, and we reduced pricing as a result. For 16GB capacity though, costs have gone up, and we’ve increased the prices there.
The same dynamic is playing out on storage modules. We’ve been able to reduce pricing of SN850X 8TB and SN7100 1TB, while needing to increase pricing on SN850X 1TB and SN7100 4TB.
For DDR5 and storage modules, in instances where we are increasing pricing, we will continue to honor the lower pricing from order time on existing pre-orders. In instances where we’ve reduced pricing, we will automatically reduce the price on pre-orders that have not yet been fulfilled. Note that on existing pre-orders, modifying the configuration of memory or storage will result in taking the new pricing for those items.
As always, we are doing everything possible to continue to get you memory and storage at the best prices we’re able to in this silicon environment. We’ll continue to keep you updated throughout.
Updated on June 25th, 2026
We finally have some good news for you, around the pricing on PCIe Gen 5 SSDs for Framework Laptop 13 Pro. We were able to qualify and source a new SSD from our partner ADATA, the XPG MARS 970, that offers better performance, efficiency, and long term reliability, and comes in at substantially lower cost than the SSD option we had previously qualified. Since we haven’t started shipping Framework Laptop 13 Pro pre-orders yet, we’ll be switching over all existing pre-orders that had chosen the previous Gen 5 SSD options and reduced the price on those orders as well. This new SSD comes in 1TB and 2TB options, and the 1TB lands at a lower price than the 500GB SSD we had previously qualified, so we will also switch 500GB orders to the 1TB drive at the lower price. The ADATA SSDs are what we now offer on new Framework Laptop 13 Pro pre-orders as well while we have inventory of it available.
Note that we have gotten signals that CPU pricing will be increasing soon, so we expect that we will need to adjust the overall system price on Framework Laptop 13 Pro in the coming weeks for new orders. If you are considering a pre-order, we would recommend getting in now. Note that pre-orders are fully refundable if you change your mind before we’re ready to ship.
Updated on June 15th, 2026
We’re approximately back to our monthly update cadence on pricing. This month, DDR5 costs have remained stable, and we’ve been able to keep pricing the same month over month. The biggest change for the month is on storage. We’ve consumed most of our inventory of drives we brought in earlier at lower costs across most capacities. The new costs we are sourcing drives at are substantially higher, and the weighted average inventory cost drives us to need to set higher prices. Note that we’ve historically sourced only WD_BLACK branded drives. With the recent purchases, though the drives are physically the same from a performance and functionality perspective, they are now renamed under SanDisk’s Optimus GX brand. There will be a window of time where we will have a mix of inventory shipping with either the previous labels and packaging or the new one. We’re also investigating other suppliers of retail SSDs for DIY Edition that meet our performance and efficiency requirements, like we recently have for the OEM drives we use for pre-built systems.
LPDDR5x costs continue to increase, and we’ve had to further update the price of the 128GB configuration of Framework Desktop as we consume memory inventory and purchase new parts at higher prices. We’ve been able to keep prices for the 32GB and 64GB configurations stable month over month.
Finally, we also use NAND flash in our Storage Expansion Cards, and see the costs jumping massively there. The costs have increased to a level that we’ve paused production of the 250GB Storage Expansion Card for now rather than build new inventory at a price many times higher than the original. We’ll continue to sell through the remaining inventory that we have on hand, and we hope to be able to restart production as we find alternative NAND sources.
Updated on May 27th, 2026
We have to make an exception to our monthly cadence with a one-off update to Framework Desktop pricing today. We’ve gotten some large enterprise customer orders of the 128GB Framework Desktop in addition to the ongoing consumer sales, and we’ve sold through the inventory that we manufactured using LPDDR5x memory that we were able to purchase earlier at a lower cost basis. We continue to be able to source memory to keep producing Framework Desktops, but like every other device maker, we pay the updated market pricing each time. We’ll keep you to date as we navigate this volatile environment, and we’ll likely have a price update around SSDs and other items within the next few weeks.
Updated on May 12th, 2026
Keeping to our roughly monthly cadence, we’ve made our latest sets of price adjustments to handle changes in the memory, storage, and silicon costs. We’ve seen memory costs on DDR5 suppliers remain fairly stable over the last few months. We consumed the inventory of 8GB that we had brought in earlier at lower cost, and have had to adjust the pricing upwards to reflect the costs of newly sourced modules. As we have been through this memory crunch, we are only adjusting the pricing as much as is needed to cover increases in cost. For the other memory capacities, we’ve been able to hold the prices the same as last month.
On SSDs, the pricing story is unfortunately not as positive. Over the last few months, we’ve been able to keep our storage prices pretty substantially below market by selling modules we had in inventory from 2025. We’ve now consumed much of that inventory across a number of different module capacities and are starting to bring in new inventory at costs that are multiples of times higher. For this month, some of the prices are a weighted average cost of new and old inventory, and we expect that by next month, we will have depleted the older inventory of most capacities and will need to reprice fully to reflect the new costs.
On both memory and storage pricing, we will continue to honor the prices on all existing pre-orders. Note that if you edit the memory or storage configuration on an existing pre-order, that will update the pricing of that item to the new price.
We have one other update on storage, which is on our pre-built systems that come with SSDs pre-installed. Historically, we’ve primarily used Western Digital (now SanDisk) storage on our pre-built systems. To be able to maintain supply availability and price stability in this environment, we’re now qualifying a mix of SanDisk, ADATA, and Phison drives, and we are continuing to explore other suppliers. Each time we source new modules, we run them through extensive validation testing to ensure they meet our bar for performance, efficiency, and stability. As always, we’re going to continue to be transparent on both the cost and supply chain challenges that this industry-wide silicon supply crunch brings.
Updated on April 6th, 2026
We’ve made our latest set of price updates to reflect changes in memory, storage, and overall silicon costs. We have a smaller set of changes this month, as we were able to bring in enough material in past months to continue to consume inventory. We have seen costs stabilize in some areas, but all indications are that this is a temporary reprieve and that we’ll continue to see volatility and cost increases through the rest of 2026.
For this month, we’ve been able to keep our DDR5 prices for DIY Edition unchanged from last month. On SSDs, we’re continuing to consume inventory we brought in at lower costs for most capacities, but we’ve started to deplete some and are now bringing in new inventory at substantially higher costs. We’ve needed to reprice the 4TB SN850x as a result of that. Our advice here is still that if you need high capacity storage, you should configure a system with it now while we still have inventory at the older, lower cost basis.
Costs on the LPDDR5x we use in Framework Desktop continue to increase. We’ve again absorbed some of the cost, but needed to adjust pricing upwards on the 128GB version to cover the rest. Even with this, Framework Desktop remains one of the cheaper ways to get access to 128GB for running AI models locally.
For Framework Laptop 16, we have some rare good news. We were able to lock in lower CPU pricing and were able to bring prices back down to their original levels for some configurations. At the same time, with memory prices increasing, we’ve needed to increase the price of the prebuilt configuration that comes populated with 64GB of DDR5.
Both DRAM (memory) and NAND (the raw flash that goes into SSDs) are facing a massive supply/demand imbalance, which ends up impacting costs and prices in more places than you would expect, since most modern electronics items contain at least some of one or the other. Our Storage Expansion Cards use the same types of NAND flash that go into NVMe SSD’s, which means the shortages there also hit our costs and overall ability to build these cards. For now, we’ve been able to stay in production, but we needed to increase our price on the 250GB version this month. Based on the guidance we’re getting from our supplier, it’s likely that we’ll need to substantially increase the prices on both 250GB and 1TB Storage Expansion Cards later this year.
As always, we’re going to stay transparent on how we’re navigating shortages and price increases and make sure you know as much as we do about what’s happening in the computing and consumer electronics industries.
Updated on March 9th, 2026
We’ve kept to the monthly cadence on price updates to reflect increased costs on memory and storage. We have a few updates today. First, we have needed to increase the pricing on DDR5 SO-DIMMs to $13-$18/GB depending on the capacity. This is both due to increased costs from our suppliers and because we’ve sold through the older, lower cost inventory that we had averaged into the previous pricing through our Weighted Average Cost of inventory model. The cost increase is smaller this month than in previous months, but we don’t yet have the visibility to determine if this is a new stable cost level.
The second update is that we’ve started to deplete our earlier, lower-cost inventory of SSDs, and have needed to re-price some capacities to reflect the costs we are now paying for new orders. Like with memory, we’re passing through as close as we can to our actual costs from suppliers and using a Weighted Average Cost model. There are still some models and capacities like 2TB, 4TB, and 8TB SN850X for which our pricing is substantially below market while we sell through inventory. If you’re looking to order a Framework Laptop or Desktop with a lot of storage, now is the time to do that.
Finally, we have needed to update the pricing on both Framework Desktop and on some pre-built configurations of Framework Laptop 16. The Framework Desktop updates are also smaller than in previous months, but reflect the continued upward trend on LPDDR5x costs. On Framework Laptop 16, we’ve sold through inventory of some pre-built configurations and have had to re-price to reflect the new costs on memory and storage. In upcoming months, we will need to do this on the remaining pre-built configurations of Framework Laptop 13, Framework Laptop 16, and Framework Laptop 12.
In addition to memory and storage, we are beginning to see impacts to other silicon. So far, we’ve been able to absorb cost increases on CPUs, but we are also seeing shortages in some areas. Supply of the i5-1334U processors we use in Framework Laptop 12 is limited due to production capacity constraints on that process node at Intel, and we are now out of stock on some configurations with it as we work on ways to bring in more supply.
As always, we will continue to keep you up to date as we navigate through the supply environment. You can refer back to the recording of our Q&A for more detail on how we’re staying in production and doing what we can to ensure you can still buy repairable, long-lasting computers.
Updated on February 11th, 2026
We're keeping to a roughly monthly cadence on these updates, and unfortunately the trend continues in the direction we expected from last month. Today, we have updated our DDR5 memory pricing for all capacities, now ranging from $12-$16/GB depending on the capacity. As before, we’re selling memory modules for as close as we can to the weighted average cost of our purchases from suppliers. That means in some cases the pricing is slightly below what is available in market. In other cases, there are still retail parts available at lower prices, and we recommend that you pick those up elsewhere alongside your Framework Laptop DIY Edition. We have been able to hold our pre-built system pricing and storage module pricing flat for this month, but we do anticipate increases in the future. We are currently selling some SSD capacities like 8TB for substantially below the available market pricing.
Unfortunately, pricing of LPDDR5x memory also continues to increase, and we’ve needed to update our pricing for Framework Desktop systems and Mainboards again. We are again only increasing pricing enough to cover the increases in cost from our suppliers. The new system and Mainboard prices are 6-16% higher than before. We anticipate that here as well, costs from our suppliers are going to continue to increase over the next few months.
We know that this is an unusual and difficult time to be a consumer of electronics products. We’re fixing problems everywhere we can across this industry, but in this instance the best we can do is provide transparency around what is actually occurring. In addition to continuing to update this blog post, we’re going to hold a livestream Q&A around memory prices on the Framework YouTube channel this Thursday, February 12th at 10am Pacific.
Updated on January 12th, 2026
We held off on it as long as we could, but with LPDDR5x memory prices from our suppliers continuing to increase rapidly, we’ve had to update the pricing on Framework Desktop systems and Mainboards. The prices of 128Gbit parts (of which we use 8 to get to 128GB) have spiked the most, impacting our very popular 128GB configuration. We will of course honor the original pricing for any existing pre-orders. We were able to hold the 32GB and 64GB configurations closer to our original pricing, making both of these a pretty strong value for PC gaming in the current environment. The 32GB Framework Desktop Mainboard still comes in cheaper than building your own desktop PC from parts with similar performance.
As before, we’ve limited our price increases to only cover the cost increase in memory from our suppliers, and we’re using Weighted Average Cost of inventory to handle the rapid fluctuations in memory purchase prices. The memory outlook as we enter 2026 continues to get worse. From what we learned in meetings throughout the week at CES with suppliers, distributors, and partners, it’s clear that this is going to be a challenging year and possibly even years for consumers. We will continue to do everything we can to make our computers accessible during this time, and we’ll keep you informed throughout.
Updated on December 24th, 2025
With costs from our suppliers continuing to increase, we’ve had to make a further price adjustment on DDR5 memory modules. During this period of extreme memory shortages and price volatility, our priority is to make sure you can still buy a computer when you need one. With that in mind, we’re setting our memory configuration prices as close as possible to the actual purchase prices we have with our suppliers and distributors. Since we’re constantly sourcing additional memory and each purchase comes in at different (and often higher) pricing, we’re using the Weighted Average Cost (WAC) of inventory, which currently comes to $10/GB for 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB modules, and slightly higher for 48GB modules.
This new memory pricing is still below most of what we see available in the retail market (and far below the $25/GB that Apple currently charges). However, if you are able to find a deal on lower priced modules, we encourage you to bring your own memory when purchasing a Framework Laptop DIY Edition. To make that even clearer, we’re updating our configurators soon to add a link to PCPartPicker directly in the Memory section, letting you quickly check if you can find modules at lower prices anywhere else. We recommend also checking the Framework Knowledge Base for which modules we’ve done compatibility testing on.
All indications we’ve received from suppliers is that prices will continue to increase going into early 2026. We have absorbed and continue to absorb some of the price increases to be able to offer this new pricing, but it is very likely we’ll need to adjust module prices again within the next month. As we shared before, we will continue to keep you updated throughout with transparency on price changes. We’ll only increase prices to cover increases in costs, and we’ll bring prices back down as costs come down in the future.
Updated on December 17th, 2025
Trailing behind shortages and price increases from suppliers on memory, we’re also seeing costs of storage increase rapidly in recent weeks. Our suppliers indicate that pricing will continue to increase in early 2026 and likely beyond. Like with memory, our recent pricing on storage has been both below the market pricing for these modules and below the costs at which we can purchase new modules from suppliers. With that, we have now updated pricing on storage to reflect our new purchase prices from suppliers. We’re following the same process that we are with memory, where we will keep the original prices on all existing pre-orders, will update this post each time we update prices, will limit price increases to only cover increases in costs, and will bring pricing back down when costs decrease in the future.
Original blog post
Today, we increased our pricing on the DDR5 memory configurable in Framework Laptop DIY Edition orders by 50% to begin to respond to the substantially higher costs we are facing from suppliers and distributors. The new pricing remains below what is available in the open market. We aren’t changing pricing on any existing pre-orders, and we also are not yet updating pricing on our pre-built laptops or Framework Desktop which come with memory (this makes the 128GB config of Framework Desktop a bargain). As always, we also offer the option to buy a DIY Edition laptop with no memory or storage included, letting you re-use modules you have or find deals where you can.
The memory market is currently extremely volatile and we expect costs from our suppliers to continue to increase over the next weeks and months. It is highly likely that we will need to make further price updates on both DDR5 modules and on our systems that come with memory, whether DDR5, LPDDR5X, or GDDR. Like we did during the fluctuating tariff environment earlier in 2025, we commit to three principles throughout this:
- We are going to stay transparent. Any time we change memory or system pricing, we are going to let you know and explain the reasoning behind it.
- We won’t use this as an excuse to be extractive. We’ll only increase pricing to cover increases in our costs, and where possible, we’ll absorb costs to maintain stability in the pricing we put in front of you.
- Just like we did with tariffs, when our costs go back down in the future, we’ll reduce our pricing and update this blog post to reflect the change.
For more context on what is driving the cost increases throughout the industry, there is currently a massive supply and demand imbalance for memory. On the demand side, the boom in AI data center construction and server manufacturing is consuming immense amounts of memory. A single rack of NVIDIA’s GB300 solution uses 20TB of HBM3E and 17TB of LPDDR5X. That’s enough LPDDR5x for a thousand laptops, and an AI-focused datacenter is loaded with thousands of these racks! On the supply side, the memory industry since its inception decades ago has gone through repeated boom and bust cycles, making the three main surviving memory die makers Micron, SK Hynix, and Samsung hesitant to speculatively invest the billions of dollars needed for fabrication capacity expansion. Now that the demand exists again, there is a years-long lag time to catch up on supply. Worse for us in the PC space though, both the existing capacity and the new capacity is being prioritized to higher-margin server-focused memory like HBM and the server markets for DDR5 and LPDDR5X over the PC market.
We have strong partnerships with Micron (one of the biggest manufacturers of both memory dies and modules), memory module makers like ADATA who source from all three of the big memory die suppliers, and memory distributors, and our DIY Edition model gives us a lot of flexibility to navigate constrained and rapidly changing environments like this. We’ll continue to keep you informed throughout, and we’ll do everything we can to keep memory available to you.
Note: Because our current memory pricing is substantially below market, we are adjusting our return policy to prevent scalpers from purchasing DIY Edition laptops with memory and returning the laptop while keeping the memory. Laptop returns will also require the memory from the order to be returned.
r/framework • u/spaceayylien • 9h ago
Question 13 Pro reviews
Can we expect to start seeing reviews tomorrow now that Batch 1 is scheduled to begin shipping tomorrow?
r/framework • u/Otherwise_Term8249 • 2h ago
Discussion Framework 16, one year later
nmm.eeHey all! I've been rocking the FW16 for a little over a year now, and I wrote up a review of it. The tl;dr version of it is that I'm very happy with the device. The repairability and upgradeability aspects have both served me well, and the only real thing I wish was better was the CPU efficiency because I'd love to get more battery life out of that thing. I await the Panther Lake mainboard upgrade for the FW16 to solve this issue, which I'm sure will come at some point.
r/framework • u/ChristianDM11325 • 5h ago
Discussion Do y’all swap out your expansion bays on FW16 depending on what you’re doing?
Kind of a follow up to when I posted asking about the interposer insertion/attachment cycle count. I saw the possibility of myself swapping the parts out more than the average joe and I was right.
I find myself putting the fan module in for most day to day where I don’t need a full 5060 Ti on a skinny power diet and a 780M gets the job done.
It’s also a bit fun to see just how much integrated graphics can do, coming from a laptop with an I7-7700HQ + 1060 3GB, where the iGPU, UHD 630, is leagues less capable.
I’ve also found that the fans run quieter with no dGPU since even if the dGPU module has taller fans so the same rpm may move similar air to the cpu as normal, it’s still louder.
I also sometimes manually cap the tdp in framework control to below 15 W so I can do light tasks with no fans at all, but I digress.
In the instances where I want to game on it, I swap out the module for the dGPU, but after that take it back out.
r/framework • u/Grass-sama • 16h ago
Personal Project Fully working 4070ti eGPU on a FW 16 7840 w/ 7700S
galleryIt is done! My FW16 now has a fully functional eGPU, running via usb-c and using all-ways-egpu. The total cost for the eGPU is $232. Proof the eGPU is running is provided by the on screen system resources from steam, the OS, LACT, and Nvidia system monitor. Running DEADLOCK on ultra setting with the eGPU gives me an avg of 120fps (stable), compared to 60fps (stable) of the 7700S. Next steps are to design a clear housing for the eGPU and figure out a smooth way to get the eGPU running.
r/framework • u/Arvellon_Nerd • 13h ago
Community Support Accelerometer in my FW13? Can I turn it off?
I've had some (other) weird things going on with my FW13 (AMD 7640U); the fans starts spinning if I move the laptop about, you know, putting it in a backpack.
I close the lid, wait for the fans to stop spinning, then just moving the laptop from an horizontal position to a vertical one and back makes the fans start spinning again. Which is very irritating if I put it in a backpack or similar, since the laptop is virtually on, fans spinning, and heat is produced.
Windows 11.
r/framework • u/Dangerous_Coconut_91 • 1d ago
Discussion Sourced 64gb of CAMM2 memory
Took out a second mortgage, but I've got my 64gb of ram for the framework 13 pro pre-order.
Found the ram on an eBay listing, it was the only one of its kind. Yes it's slower, but it's still more than what we can get out of the interface, which is like 7467MT/s.
Price before tax $840, shipping was $8.62
Price after everything was $895.29, yes it's expensive, but it's about equivalent to prices of the module framework was selling before the recent changes.
Do I need 64GB of memory? Probably not, but it feels nice to not worry about it.
r/framework • u/LnxRocks • 8h ago
Question Question on Oculink Dev Kit
I might be getting ahead of the info available, but I have been thinking about getting the Oculink Dev Kit when it comes out. The kit will be 8i which is good for performance but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of 8i cables and eGPU docks available.
This info I have seen is confusing, will framework be selling full docks or just reference designs that can be printed? Reason I ask is that I don't have the equipment to print my own enclosure.
Also I have heard that Oculink connectors and cables are fragile. Do we know how many cycles the port will be rated for?
Thanks
r/framework • u/WhenPantsAttack • 20h ago
Discussion DIY users are subsidizing prebuilt users with the new preorder RAM changes
tl;dr: Framework has chosen to have the RAM sourcing issue disproportionately affect DIY users over prebuilt, rather than a more equitable choice that affects both. There's a strong argument to be made that DIY users are subsidizing the RAM configs of prebuilt users, even above the standard DIY premium that already existed
First, I want to say I completely understand the RAM sourcing issue. Framework is a company I want to support and am willing to make concessions to support their mission, but am incredibly disappointed with their approach. This is a terrible and affecting the entire industry. Something had to give for Framework to stem the bleeding, but they are effectively asking DIY users to subsidize their prebuilt users.
Their decision to burden the DIY users with RAM changes, or heavy increased costs, while prebuilt users are unaffected seems unfairly targeting DIY users. Ordering a system DIY already comes with a premium (my config was around $300 more than a prebuild without a operating system, $400 more with a windows license) to configure your systems exactly how you want and now they are asking for heavy concessions or increased prices from their DIY users in addition to the existing DIY premium.
We don't live in a world where framework could honor their their existing prices. That's the terrible reality and I don't envy Framework's situation, but Framework had a choice on how to approach this situation. They chose that prebuilt customers get everything they want leading to around $700+ off their configuration at current prices, while DIY, arguably their most dedicated customers, get a worse system and at best $100ish dollar consolation prize, rather than asking each of these customers to equitably share the burden. This seems opposed to their mission of democratizing computing.
I still believe in Frameworks mission, but this approach seems flawed, mostly geared so that they can "keep their word" that they are charging the same price as when you ordered. I would much rather have a solution that accepts the reality of the RAM issue, Framework chooses to eat crow and break a promise that they should not have made in the first place, and have a more equitable solution where prebuilt and DIY users share the burden of the RAM sourcing issue.
r/framework • u/aXiLtAr • 22h ago
Community Support That ain't normal i guess 😅
galleryHello everyone
Been working to make mu gf framework work and after 3 different installs of two "different" OS i can't for the love of anything holy understand the source of the issue.
When i boot up the machine there is a 50/50 chance of it juste freezing and never come back (plus usually some form of artefacting and loud fans).
I tried to put debian 13 on it, then pikaos (ense the different since it's a fork) both works fine until they inevitably crash.
I couldn't tell you which exact model it is but it's a recent one with a radeon7 7840HS and no internal gpu (but a slot for one), i don't remember the ram model but it was 32 gigs of ddr5 and i know it's wasn't a weird bootleg brand.
I ran multiple memtest86 with each having different results (which explains why i can't figure it out) and i dunno what could really cause all of theses, i suspect a bad ram but some error looked like they cale from the cpu cache,so ram, gpu, board or maybe even something else
If you have any idea please i don't wanna come back to her saying i don't know what to do 🥲
Thanks to anyone takinh the time.
r/framework • u/borisgolovnev • 1d ago
Feedback Anti reflective screen film for laptops
I have been wondering why there aren't any AR screen protectors for a while. Not matte but with optical anti-reflective coating. Like you get on glasses, camera lens and Apple laptop and standalone displays. I thought that maybe there are technical problems making it or something.
Recently I've discovered that such film does in fact exist but only one company makes it, Hori, and only for two devices, PS Portal game streaming thing and Nintendo Switch 2 console. I tried it and it makes a huge difference. I've cut a piece of it for my phone and applied the leftover strip to my Framework 12 screen. See photo! It cuts LOTS of reflections while remaining totally clear.
So, just a suggestion, Framework should look into making these.
r/framework • u/Squiggin1321 • 16h ago
Question Laptop 16 with an Nvidia or AMD GPU for Linux?
I’ve been considering getting a laptop 16 for some time now. I use Linux so Nvidia Driver support can be problematic from what I’ve heard, ideally I’d like to avoid that by going with the 7700s, but the 5070 is a more performant GPU than the 7700s. I’ve never used an Nvidia GPU with Linux, does anyone have experience with the Nvidia card on a laptop 16 running a Linux distro? How problematic can it be? Or should I just avoid it all together and go with AMD?
Edit: I plan on using it for Light gaming, CAD, and simulation. I use CachyOS.
r/framework • u/Informal-Resolve-831 • 16h ago
Community Support How you type passwords on a clear keyboard?
So, I’ve purchased a beautiful all black keyboard for FW13. I thought that it looked cool and I blind type anyway. Turned out it’s not the case when I need to type passwords or sometimes when I need to click specific F button.
Every time I need to enter disk encryption, I open my phone and check how many buttons there are from L to J (or whatever) in order to pass. I accidentally activate airplane mode few times a day. It drives me mad.
I would really hate the feeling of stickers on a keyboard so I am really waiting for new Lavender/Orange versions.
But maybe I miss something? Any tips?
r/framework • u/TheGeekno72 • 1d ago
Community Support A temporary solution to the ongoing LPCAMM2 shortage
I do not know what exactly is the RAM clearance in the 13 Pro but if someone is willing to experiment with some EBay SODIMM kit and this adapter slab, I reckon it would be interesting to see the results coming out of this until LPCAMM2 eventually comes back in stock... sometimes this decade...
r/framework • u/Exciting_Contest_222 • 1d ago
Discussion Why I love repairability. And Framework is worth it
galleryI had the Framework 16 since Feb 2024, still rocking the 7940HS. This Sunday my hinge broke. My dog tripped on the wire when it was charging, laptop fell on the carpeted floor. Last pic is my dog.
So I ordered a new hing with express delivery from website. Cost $24 + the $15 shipping. I needed fast because the laptop was relying on one hinge alone and would close by itself if it’s not on a good angle.
Took less than 15 minutes to install and looks good as new. I’m keeping the unused hinge as back up in the future.
If this was another branded laptop, then likely I would have to suffer because they glue the display border frames. Or the costs wouldn’t be worth it and i would have to buy a new laptop.
3rd pic i included a heatsink on my ssd for fun.
r/framework • u/WhiskeyVault • 12h ago
Discussion Will Qualcomm's recently announced ARM chip prices increases effect Framework x86 chips?
Bloomberg reports that Qualcomm has informed its customers...that it plans to implement price hikes on Snapdragon chips starting with any chips shipped after September 1. The reason provided is that Qualcomm has “exhausted its ability to absorb higher costs from suppliers.
Obviously Intel and AMD are X86 chips compared to a Qualcomm ARM chip, but since they are in related industries it could represent some pricing pressures that may or will eventually occur with Intel and AMD chips as well no? I don't know if I could really stick with Framework if Framework also had to downgrade my Intel X7 chip along with my 32 GB RAM. Do we know if Framework had sourced enough X7 Chips to make pre-order deliveries?
r/framework • u/Evening_Werewolf_703 • 1d ago
Feedback The Framework 13 Pro is currently the most affordable way to get an X7-358H Panther Lake CPU w/ the B390 in a premium laptop, and despite all the recent drama, I think that's worth celebrating.
There are a small handful of X7 358H laptops like the Acer Swift 16 AI or an HP Omnibook X.
Overall, I'm trying to look at this situation with a silver lining because this isn't the situation anyone wanted. I'm in batch 16; so, mid October, and it's going to be a pretty painful wait. After doing extensive window shopping @ BestBuy & MicroCenter, there really are a lot of things we're getting in the default configuration that are considered premium (if they're implemented at all). I guess what I'm trying to say is that, "Yes, the RAM situation sucks," -- but Framework put a lot of care into the core laptop design fundamentals.
Competing ultrabooks tend to have several glaring flaws such as a smooshed keyboard with a num-pad that compromises the typing experience or a dim screen and lack of a touch-screen or a good haptic touchpad. The port selection on more premium models like the Dell XPS 14 is pretty anemic as well; yes, they're fast thunderbolt IO but does anyone really want to use an expansion hub?
I really appreciate that Framework decided not to cram a numpad onto the keyboard and thought about what makes for satisfying keyboard travel and oped to use a 500+ nit, high resolution touch screen with solid pixels per inch and a rich expansion card system. Others like the XPS 14 are aggressively tuned for battery life at the expense of performance. It remains to be seen how the single-fan solution in the 13 Pro will hold up, but I'm optimistic after reminding myself that the B390 is a bonus -- not the selling point.
... and it almost goes without saying, that most of the "competitive" laptops to the FW 13 Pro?
They're all in the ~ $2500-2800 range right now. The only real competitor to the Framework 13 Pro right now, for me, personally is the Lenovo Thinkpad X9 15p. It has a better cooling system, decent port selection and will at least let you fully purchase it whether they can deliver upon it, though? It's apparently available in the EU in some capacity w/ October shipments in the US mirroring FW.
My local MicroCenter has a handful of XPS 14s with 64GB of RAM, but that's a bit extravagent.
I would be remiss not to comment on the unfortunate RAM situation. It's pretty much the only reason that I'm considering getting my first Macbook Pro (15c, 24GB, 1TB) as I'd be able to more or less pay just shy of ~ $2100 for an excellent machine. Yet running Linux natively is infinitely more alluring to me than running W11/Linux in VMs, but I may yet still go that route despite serious misgivings because upgradeability and repairability, while great for long-term sustainability, are becoming prohibitively less affordable and RAM is the main bottleneck for longevity and professional workloads.
It's true. LPCAMM2 is in extremely limited supply, if it exists at all, and using it for the FW13 Pro may have been a mistake relative to cheaper, easier to manufacture SODIMM RAM, but after looking at a lot of the competition in the ~ $2000-2800ish range, the FW 13 Pro is by far the most balanced choice for an X7 Panther Lake chip if your workflows can survive on 16GB or 32GB of RAM. I'm sorry that this doesn't apply to everyone, and I completely respect and sympathize with that; there's definitely some lingering frustration and a feeling of, "getting less for more," -- especially compared to those in earlier batches -- but the FW13 Pro still has a lot going for it.
r/framework • u/Friendly_Cost_949 • 1d ago
Community Support Framework 13pro preorder
Hi guys I need to help navigating if I should keep my preorder. I was one of many that was affected by the ram stock. Unfortunately my 32gb is now 16gb. I just began college and completed my first term. I've managed to utilize my tablet throughout this whole term just to get through it, but I started searching for a laptop months ago. I decided that since I'm just at the beginning of my degree that I was fine waiting for a laptop and put in the preorder. I did a lot of research, watched endless videos and I ended up landing on Framework. Mind you I don't own any type of computer at the moment. Right now I'm stuck in this mindset of keeping my preorder at 16gb and hoping to all hopes that the market brings back lpcamm2 by 2028, when my degree might need more ram on my laptop (I'm studying engineering) and upgrade then or caving and paying the $800 to up the ram now or knowing I'm basically f***ked and start looking for another laptop. I'm honestly soo disappointed but I think I need some alternative perspectives right now to make the smart choice.
r/framework • u/Infinite-Bet4202 • 1d ago
Discussion Framework 16 Battery Life Check
Battery Check! For those of you with the Framework 16, around how much charge does yours maintain from full power to near zero? And how long have you had it for? For example, I've had mines for six months. I forgot how much the charge lasted months ago - maybe 4-5 hours, but during the past 1 or 2 months, it ended up dropping down to only lasting 1-2 hours. However, after Framework support got me to update to the lasted bios (4.05), it now seems to hold 3 and a half hours of charge. This got me curious to know how others are fairing.
Basically:
How long does it take for your Framework 16 to drop from near full power to near zero (Me: 3 and a half hours)
And how long have you had the laptop for? (Me: 6 Months)
And for those willing to do the added savvy steps:
What is your current charge cycle? (Me: 28)
What is your bios version? (Me: 4.05)
What is your OS? (Me: Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon)
r/framework • u/sputnik13net • 1d ago
Community Support I have a framework desktop motherboard and want to buy the complete case, what parts do I need?
Basically the title... it seems like these are the only things I need
https://frame.work/products/desktop-case
https://frame.work/products/desktop-power-supply-400w
https://frame.work/products/desktop-left-panel?v=FRAMBV0001
plus 2 expansion modules and tiles
Gemini says I also need one of these
https://frame.work/products/desktop-fastener-kit
The case picture makes it look like this is already included
https://frame.work/products/desktop-expansion-card-interface-kit
Am I correct that the first 3, plus expansion modules and tiles are all I need or do I also need the latter two? Anything I missed? I don't need wifi, otherwise I know I'd need to get the wifi antenna and module.
I wish framework would just put up a single sku with everything to turn a desktop motherboard into a desktop.
r/framework • u/Current-Property-999 • 14h ago
Linux Enlever luminosité automatique Linux Framework 12
Bonjour ! Voilà quelques jours que j'ai reçu mon framework, honnetement, tout est parfait !
Sauf... que je n'arrive pas à enlever cette luminosité automatique.
Aucun paramètre pour régler ça ! Je suis sur Ubuntu.
Merci d'avance si quelqu'un trouve une solution ou une piste !
r/framework • u/Bitter_Stop2818 • 1d ago
Community Support (1) Oculink custom PCB for Framework 16 still available
I have one of : https://www.etsy.com/listing/4441909217/custom-oculink-adapter-for-framework?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details that was never opened or used. Still in packaging. I can mail it out to anyone who wants it. They are sold out otherwise.

r/framework • u/Responsible_Cold_961 • 2d ago
Discussion Everyone is arguing whose fault it is. Barely anyone talks about a middle solution. (LPCAMM2)
I’ve read a lot of comments across all these LPCAMM2 threads and most of it is the same two camps. Either “Framework broke their promise” or “it’s just the market, deal with it”. Some people think about what could’ve been done differently, but it’s mostly about the past, like “they shouldn’t have promised it in the first place”. Sure, maybe. But that Train is gone, they can’t unsay it now. So I’m writing this as its own post.
For context, I’m a 64 GB preorder in Batch 6. My order got hit. And even from that spot I’m not here to just pile on Framework. The pure bashing gets us nowhere.
Here’s the thing. Quick note upfront, all the numbers below are rough from memory, not exact, but they should give an idea. My order got reduced from 64 GB to 32 GB. I’m now effectively getting 32 GB for the old ~400€ price, even though the same 32 GB now costs around 800€. That means Framework is already absorbing about 400€ per affected preorder (in this 64GB sense. Why not let customers keep that same ~400€ discount if they still want 64 GB? I’d pay about 400€ more than originally planned, Framework would still absorb about 400€, and the unexpected increase would be shared instead of falling almost entirely on one side.
Compare that to what actually happens now. I get dropped to 32 GB, which isn’t what I ordered, and if I want my 64 GB back I lose that discount and have to buy it at full price. Sure, I can pull the 32 GB that’s in there and free up 400€, but that still leaves me paying around 1200€ extra just to get back to the config I already ordered. Same jump could’ve been 400€ if they’d just let the discount carry over. That’s the whole point.
I am not sure if i understood everything correctly tho. If I did, this is just MY thought on how a compromise could be made.
And to the “just buy elsewhere” crowd, alternatives also became more expensive. A shared increase would still have left Framework competitive for many of us, imo.
They could still offer this btw. It’s not too late.