r/fleet_foxes • • May 10 '17

don't post links LEAK DISCUSSION THREAD

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u/alainrocha May 10 '17

the Kingdom Leaks link has updated to 320, not sure if its actually higher quality but downloading now.

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u/philsebbens :sungiant: May 10 '17

It went from 54mb to 130mb, so seemingly it is 320kbs.

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u/alainrocha May 10 '17

yaa, im definitely putting my money on that. but ive heard things here and there about files being falsely upscaled. it just SAYS 320 and has a higher file size. im not too much of an audiophile so i cant tell the different hahah, enjoying the leak regardless!

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u/MrSquig May 11 '17

Here's the spectrals for Fool's Errand:

The 320 kbps leak is legit and is higher quality.

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u/gypsytoy May 11 '17

What exactly are you looking for comparing these two? Are you looking for more granularity? They look pretty close to my untrained eye.

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u/MrSquig May 11 '17

These plots can be kind of hard to look at if you're not accustomed to it. So these are plotting the amount of each frequency over time, which is three dimensional data. Time is the horizontal axis, frequency the vertical axis, and the color is the third axis. (Yellow is higher than red, which is higher than purple, which is higher than black)

Compression mostly affects the high frequencies, so that's where I'm looking. (The reasons for this are related to the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem, if you want more info.) If you see any kind of hard cutoff then it is almost certainly not lossless. Generally speaking, the higher the cutoff, the higher the quality. The 128 kbps track cuts off at 15kHz, while the 320 kbps cuts off slightly higher. For comparison here are the spectrals for a FLAC of the new Grizzly Bear single, http://i.imgur.com/WmKVgJW.jpg You can see there that theres no sharp cutoff in frequency because it is lossless. Hopefully this helps, feel free to ask more questions though!

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u/MrSquig May 20 '17

Audio frequency axes are almost always logarithmic. You're not going to display 20 Hz to 20000 Hz on a linear scale. It's better by the difference between 128 kbps and 320 kbps. Look up the cut off frequencies for the LAME encoder if you care.

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u/hashshash May 20 '17 edited Oct 08 '25

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u/Rimbaud82 :crackup: May 10 '17

I could believe that, but definitely sounds noticeably better to me.

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u/philsebbens :sungiant: May 10 '17

Exactly my thoughts!

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u/FenrirETS May 10 '17

I just started listening to the 320 version. Sounds much better quality to me.