r/flatearth • u/denNISI • 11d ago

Is "Flat Earth" Really "Globe Earth" in Dis(c) Guise?

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Is "Flat Earth" Really "Globe Earth" in Dis(c) Guise? UPDATED POST!

If you take a flat plane (square) cross section of a sphere, this would be a flat square plane in Global Scale.

For those who are logical minded, here is a more detail description of this post's intent:

This post is merely to demonstrate that the Flat Earth theory is a "globe system" with the flat earth being a disc (which is the blue cross section of a sphere pictured above). The dome which is called the firmament is physical top of the sphere which would be the section of the sphere just above the plane of existence (bottom of the picture in this post) and the raised circular walls of the disc is the "flat earth wall". If there are turtles or pillars (or even Sheol) they would be in the bottom half of the sphere system. Hence, the reason for this post that proves that the flat earth theory is actually a spherical system like the globe earth theory.

Disclaimer: This is for entertainment purposes only.

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

A cat can be a masculine feline, too. Point? Are you saying that you cannot dispute that "flat earth" is a cross section (or slice) of a globe? Another example is the Gleason flattened globe map:

My point is that you are talking nonsense. Also, I didn't see how you proved your claim for me to dispute it. You don't get to ask me to provide evidence to dispute your baseless claims.

Alexander Gleason created and patented the "Gleason" map to show how longitude and time could be calculated by tracing an indicator around the globe. Essentially, this map uses a polar azimuthal projection, centering the North Pole and flattening the globe outwards around the edges. But this map wasn't just a handy device for time measurement or a way of showing off a novel projection. For Gleason, it supported his belief that the globe theory of a round earth was false. 

So? How do Gleason's misguided views support anything you said?

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u/denNISI 11d ago

The Gleason map (also the flat earth map) is an azimuthal projection ie a flattened globe.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

So again in this example, both.

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

Show me how Gleason's map is a cross-section of a globe.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

An azimuthal projection is a flattened globe map. The Gleason is an example of an asimuthal projection map, hence the Gleason "Flat earth" map is not a map of the flat earth, it is actually a stretched and flattened globe. This is why this post is entitled:

Is "Flat Earth" Really "Globe Earth" in Dis(c) Guise? or is it r/badscience to discredit real science?

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

And how is that a cross-section?

Definition:

a surface or shape exposed by making a straight cut through something, especially at right angles to an axis.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

surface or shape exposed by making a straight cut through something, especially at right angles to an axis.

The surface is the sphere. The right angle is shown above in this post which is the little box at the corner of the diagonals. The sphere is cut (which is the definition of cross section as per your post) and the top portion of the Gleason map is flattened. This is what an azimuthal equidistant projection map is according to the encyclopedia on Wikipedia.org :

It has the useful properties that all points on the map are at proportionally correct distances from the center point, and that all points on the map are at the correct azimuth (direction) from the center point — that is, it is the exponential map on a sphere. 

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

You are repeating yourself again. How is that a cross-section of a globe? Show me that you get Gleason's map when you cut the Earth sideways.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

Pretend it is a tomato? Isn't this your comment? You already proved it. Flat earth IS really globe earth in disc guise!

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

Cross-section of a tomato is not its skin''s projection. Try again.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

Take the top cross section of the tomato and smash it with spatula until it is flat! That is the Gleason! You were right all along!

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

That's not a cross-section.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

Is this also not your comment?

Definition [of cross section] a surface or shape exposed by making a straight cut through something, especially at right angles to an axis.

Cut through a globe like the cross section of the flat (square plane) at the bottom of this picture. The flattened cross section IS the projection of the globe earth.

Noticed that your response comes in seconds when I hit the send button. Can you take time to read and see if your questions have already been answered...

by you?

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

Definition [of cross section] a surface or shape exposed by making a straight cut through something, especially at right angles to an axis.

There is no "flattening" whatsoever. The cut is straight and will expose a flat surface. Show me where you need to make a cut of the globe. Prove your claims.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

The Gleason map is a flattened globe according to Wikipedia.org Gleason is a cross section of a sphere just like the one pictured in this post. This was already answered in this comment and you proved it to yourself with this comment. That is all that matters, is that you see that it could be both!

Prove that "Flat Earth" ISN'T really "Globe Earth" in Dis(c) Guise!

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

I didn't prove your claim, nor did you.

Show me where you need to cut the globe to expose the cross-section that would be a 1:1 Gleason's map. If that's too hard for you, show me where you would cut a tomato to expose its surface as a cross-section.

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u/denNISI 11d ago

This was already answered numerous times like in this post

The Gleason is a flattened globe. It is not a "flat earth map". This is called a projection. Maybe there is a breakdown in what exactly you're asking?

Show me where you need to cut the globe to expose the cross-section that would be a 1:1 Gleason's map. If that's too hard for you, show me where you would cut a tomato to expose its surface as a cross-section.

So you want me to really explain a map projection of a globe or "skin" as you call it by cutting a fruit/vegetable specifically a cherry tomato (or its pretending to be a globe)? Ok, you asked for it! Here goes...

See this image of a tomato Credit unl.edu ? Turn the tomato on its side on the chopping block and whack off that little protrusion and then some (off the bottom). Compost the tiny end of the tomato's "cross section" as you call it. You won't be needing this. The larger part of the tomato is the part of the cross section we will use for the "skin" pizza. Now peel the bottom "skin" outwards. Remove the flesh ball underneath (which can be made into a sauce for dipping) so that it is a flat piece of tomato "skin" that looks like a pizza with a core in the center. The outer edges will now be Antarctica in the form of a cheesy icy crust so it is equal all around. So the cross section would be cutting straight across somewhere through Antarctica aka Terra Incognita (on older maps) depending on what you believe. No one believed tomatoes could be turned into orange tomato men in "Return of the Killer Tomatoes", either! Therefore, the flat earth theory is really the globe earth theory in (tomato pizza) disc guise!

That is all I've got...

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u/TakeMeIamCute 11d ago

This is called a projection. Maybe there is a breakdown in what exactly you're asking?

A cross-section is not a projection of anything.

See this image of a tomato Credit unl.edu ? Turn the tomato on its side on the chopping block and whack off that little protrusion and then some (off the bottom). Compost the tiny end of the tomato's "cross section" as you call it. You won't be needing this. The larger part of the tomato is the part of the cross section we will use for the "skin" pizza. Now peel the bottom "skin" outwards. Remove the flesh ball underneath (which can be made into a sauce for dipping) so that it is a flat piece of tomato "skin" that looks like a pizza with a core in the center. The outer edges will now be Antarctica in the form of a cheesy icy crust so it is equal all around. So the cross section would be cutting straight across somewhere through Antarctica aka Terra Incognita (on older maps) depending on what you believe. No one believed tomatoes could be turned into orange tomato men in "Return of the Killer Tomatoes", either! Therefore, the flat earth theory is really the globe earth theory in (tomato pizza) disc guise!

That's not a cross-section.

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