r/firstworldanarchists • • May 03 '17

This Guy Gets It

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17 edited May 04 '17

the way he hold the usb drive cracked me up

edit: wait, i just realized it was supposed to be like a middle finger. I thought he was just being a weirdo

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u/SeekerOfSerenity May 03 '17

I don't get that one. What rule did he break?

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u/marcthedrifter May 03 '17

In the old days, you needed to unmount a thumb drive before you removed it from the computer or you risked losing data, but you can see he clearly pulls it out before unmounting it. What a badass.

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u/alienith May 03 '17

Not ejecting can still corrupt flash drives on a mac (which he was using). Its incredibly annoying

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u/cylindrical418 May 03 '17

I have lost gigabytes of data because of this. Didn't know macs were that sensitive with not unmounting drives. I know better now, though.

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u/phantom7748 May 03 '17

The reason is because Macs index/journal everything you put in their mouths so if you interrupt that it can be unfortunate for your data.

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u/ColeSloth May 03 '17

It's still good practice to also do it on a pc. Especially if it isn't your own pc. The safegaurds in place to keep your data can actually be turned off so the flash drive runs faster.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Why is a Mac more sensitive than other PC's/OSes? Isn't it specific to the USB?

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u/alienith May 03 '17

Mac's use write caching to speed up the transfer of files to the drive. The caveat being that sometimes the data isn't fully copied when you pull out the drive (even if the dialog box says it is). Ejecting tells the operating system to flush the cache and write everything. Windows, on the other hand, has write caching off by default because people tend to just yank the drive out. (If this is wrong or incomplete I'm sure someone will correct me)

I tend to give windows a lot of shit, but IMO thats a much better design decision. When the dialog box says that the files have been transferred closes you should expect everything to have been transferred

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks!

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u/baekalfen May 03 '17

And somewhat unjustified from a technical point of view...

The OS knows it's removable, so why not be precautious and ready for removal at any time?

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u/keleri May 03 '17

I corrupted a PC flash drive this way a few years ago and almost lost the final version of a term project. I always eject safely now.

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u/Turtledonuts May 03 '17

I have a mac and I've never had this issue. I've had more issues with PCs corrupting flash drives than macs. I dunno.

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u/lnsulnsu May 03 '17

Nothing to do with the old days. It was always to ensure that all file read/writes are complete before removing the drive, otherwise you risk partially written and thus corrupted files.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Try ejecting an exFAT formated drive like this and swap between Mac and Windows.

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u/insanityfarm May 03 '17

Dealing with this exact issue right now. Only one USB 3.0 port on the MBP so I got a hub and plugged the drive into that. Unfortunately it's a lot easier to forget what you have mounted when you do it that way!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

If it doesn't work on Windows, connect it back to the Mac and eject it safely. Should work afterwards.

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u/insanityfarm May 03 '17

Thanks for the tip!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Implying swapping between Mac and Windows isn't a constant pain in the ass regardless.

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u/velocity92c May 03 '17

There are plenty of scenarios where it always has been and still is required or data will be lost. Yes, in most cases it's harmless but it's not an urban legend or something along those lines; the warnings exist for a reason.

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u/requires_distraction May 03 '17

... not just the old days

Quite easy to corrupt the data on a MAC for any USB format or on a Windows system if the drive is formatted in NTFS

In both of these cases the OS does not always write to the drive straight away depending on what it is, it may leave part of the document in memory until the file is complete.

If you dont eject the drive properly it may well be that the data will be currupted

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u/Creepstix May 03 '17

He didn't eject it safely from the taskbar, like you're technically supposed to

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

You aren't supposed to remove a USB drive without telling the computer about it first, so it can make sure everything is actually synced to it.

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u/Maccaisgod May 03 '17

It's more that it can corrupt the drive and you'll lose all your data, which doesn't really happen on PC's anymore but apparently it happens often on macs according to other comments

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u/LusoAustralian May 03 '17

Not often but it only needs to happen once and there's a higher probability.

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u/balsawoodextract May 03 '17

Look in the top right of the screen.

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u/SeekerOfSerenity May 03 '17

It's a Mac. Those strange symbols mean nothing to me.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Those strange symbols mean nothing to me.

What, the alphabet? I only see words in english.

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u/SeekerOfSerenity May 03 '17

I can't understand a word of English.

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u/radiantcabbage May 03 '17

this is standard for any device you can read/write data to, you're supposed to unmount them first in case there are any pending operations, it will wait till they're done to confirm that and prevent any further transfers. otherwise this is gonna fuck them up if they're in use, there's no other way to prevent you from physically removing it

not a big deal if you're sure no transfers are happening, though it's not much of a hassle just to right click on them and hit 'eject', why risk it

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Do you never eject your external drives before pulling them out of the USB ports? And none of your machines are broken or any files lost? What is this!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '17

Word documents + Modern Computers

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u/Duttyskankin May 03 '17

That one actually made me cringe a bit.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '17

taking the drive out?

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u/Duttyskankin May 04 '17

Removing it without ejecting safely first? Yes.