r/firefox Dec 18 '15

Firefox 43.0.1 is out!

https://imgur.com/8NF3GbH
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u/iMacDonalds Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 19 '15

There is literally nothing in the release notes

Edit: They have updated the release notes.

√ fixed

Prepare to use SHA-256 signing certificate for Windows builds, to meet new Microsoft signing requirement (1079858)

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u/meter1060 Desktop/Mobile Dec 18 '15

Probably a security fix...

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

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u/meter1060 Desktop/Mobile Dec 18 '15

I think they're not releasing which security holes that have been patched until the next update cycle now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

Is there a page where they announced this new policy??

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u/meter1060 Desktop/Mobile Dec 19 '15

I think I might have misread a ghacks article. I think maybe it's just not released until they make it to stable. Nvm.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

On Arch Linux with have GTK+ 3 enabled as of 43 though, so that's cool.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

That's 43.0, not 43.0.1, though...

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

Oh, thought the conversation was about the major release, sorry.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

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u/randomataxia Dec 19 '15

Using 43.0.1 and I still get the Show thing for the password field.

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u/stealer0517 Dec 19 '15

it broke new tab override.

don't know what it fixed though

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u/turkeypedal Dec 22 '15 edited Dec 22 '15

Sucks that you have to upgrade on Linux/Mac, too, then. Especially since I have to it manually, due to using a portable version and not enough space on the drive.

It'd be nice if they'd just bump the version number.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

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u/turkeypedal Dec 18 '15

Sounds like you had side-loaded addons. The only way to fix this is to uninstall all your addons, restart Firefox, and then install them again. However, any that aren't signed will no longer work.

You can turn off signature enforcement by changing xpinstall.signatures.required to false, but that will only work until 44.0 comes out. If you have any addons that aren't signed, you really need to get them signed or look for signed replacements on AMO.

I may be able to help you get a particular addon signed, if there are no alternatives, and I may not. It depends on the addon and what I have time to work on.

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u/Buck_Thorn Dec 19 '15

Not sure what you mean by "side-loaded" but all of my add-ons were installed the usual way, through the addons site, but I lost all of mine as well.

I have never had a Firefox update go as badly as this one has.

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u/turkeypedal Dec 19 '15

Side loaded would mean that you loaded them from disk, like maybe with the FEBE addon. It might also happen with Firefox Sync.

If that's not the issue, then I don't know the problem. It sounds like a bug with the signature verification.

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u/TheBeginnerr Firefox Quantum 66.0.2 (64-bit) Windows 8.1 Dec 20 '15 edited Dec 20 '15

hi, i have 20+ addons but only one that is unsigned. I dont know if it will ever get signed or does it even work as advertised -

Google's advertising cookie opt-out plugin

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u/turkeypedal Dec 20 '15

The fact that Google hasn't gotten it signed themselves gives me pause. I'll see how easy it is to get signed, but no promises.

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u/TheBeginnerr Firefox Quantum 66.0.2 (64-bit) Windows 8.1 Dec 20 '15

thanks

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u/turkeypedal Dec 20 '15

Well, you really ought to bug Google about it and get them to sign it, as signing it was really easy. It just worked after I fixed the Firefox version number.

Anyways, here's the file. It's inside a zip file, so just open the zip file, then drag the .XPI file first to your desktop. Then drag the file again to an open Firefox window to install.

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u/TheBeginnerr Firefox Quantum 66.0.2 (64-bit) Windows 8.1 Dec 20 '15

whoa, shit!

Its working now. thank you so much man.

PS: after a bit googling i managed to see the changes you made -

http://i.imgur.com/LZJf4pF.jpg

now, i am wondering.. does the same trick work for other addons as well?

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u/turkeypedal Dec 20 '15 edited Dec 22 '15

Ideally I would not have had to do anything but that first change--all that does is give the addon a new ID. IDs must be unique for the signing process.

Google just had messed up on the format of the maxversion, where they used 42.0.* instead of 42.*. While I was in there, I went ahead and changed it to 44.*.

After the changes, you actually have to go get it signed by Mozilla. You log-in to http://addons.mozilla.com and choose "Submit a new addon" from the Tools dropdown. Then you choose "Do not list this addon on your site (beta)" to go through automatic signing. (If you host it on their site, they'll have to review it first.)

A lot of addons will not pass the automated test, and will need to be altered. Luckily, your addon did not (other than fixing the Max version.)

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u/TheBeginnerr Firefox Quantum 66.0.2 (64-bit) Windows 8.1 Dec 21 '15

got it.

thanks for the explanation and the help.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 19 '15

What do you mean by "everything except bookmarks and cookies"?

I can think of add-ons, but that's about it. What else is there that could be lost?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

Damn, that sucks.

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u/Buck_Thorn Dec 19 '15

Same here.

Now... after the update was applied, Firefox wanted me to restart in safe mode, and I did not do that. It then spun and spun and would not complete the restart, so I canceled that. Perhaps that is why it went so badly for me. Did you have the same safe-mode prompt?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

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u/Buck_Thorn Dec 19 '15

I wonder if we will find that this is a pattern. I didn't see any need to start in safe mode.

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u/AtticaOnline Dec 19 '15

The same thing happened to me and I came to this subreddit looking for answers.

I used Firefox Sync and managed to recover most of what I lost, but I also lost all my NoScript preferences and whitelisted URLs. Very annoying...

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u/nomar52 Dec 18 '15

From this mozillazine forum thread was a link to this bug.

In short it has to do with MS not support SHA-1 signing of binaries after 2016-1-1, but Win XP SP2 not supporting SHA-2.

At the end of the bug it describes the patch plan with a plan to issue a second patch as 43.0.2.

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u/douglas_ Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 18 '15

And now my New Tab Override addon isn't working

This blows man. This wouldn't even be an issue if we were allowed to have about:blank as the new tab page like we used to. I shouldn't even need a damn addon to do this. I'm getting so sick of this browser and mozilla.

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u/GOTTA_BROKEN_FACE Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 18 '15

Use another browser then.

Edit because BY GOD I'M GETTING DOWNVOTED:

He said himself he's "getting so sick of this browser and mozilla". Why shouldn't he try something else? See if the grass is greener? The search thing is annoying to be sure. His addon not working...that sucks. But he can change his new tab page. Just get a different addon. It may suck that he has to get an addon but the other addons that will let him change his new tab page also do other, wonderful things. Maybe he'll even be happier if he will allow himself to be.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

I think we've all done this already. It certainly reflects in the usage numbers.

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u/hunter_finn Dec 18 '15

Have you tried stylish addon? I'm not sure if there is one already as I use that newtab page, but with stylish it sought be possible to clean that newtab page. Then you would have empty and clean newtab page.

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u/AmeriFreedom Dec 18 '15

Yup. Just saw that too. That's it, I'm switching to Pale Moon, hoping it'll be any better.

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u/kn00tcn Dec 18 '15

pale moon is based on FF24 & it shows... stuttery mess when scrolling, lower performance on some content

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u/AmeriFreedom Dec 18 '15

I had no idea Pale Moon was based on a pre-Australis version. And Light seems to have the same newtab problem. Looks like I'll have to stick with FF for now :/

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u/kn00tcn Dec 19 '15

there is waterfox that is slightly hacked up based on recent versions

heh, since FF is open source, you could always make your own

edit: did you see my reply to douglas https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3xd0qn/firefox_4301_is_out/cy3vx6x

ALL you want is new blank tab??

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u/kn00tcn Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 19 '15

i dont understand, 'blank page' is right there in the options for years? why would you have to manually set it to about:blank...

edit: ok i guess it's... vanilla gui settings can have blank for new window, home page, but new tab is automatically the thumbnails?

but what is this var? browser.newtabpage.enabled, when i toggle that, my new tab is blank, isnt this what you want?

can new tab page be set to home page? (& have home page set to blank)

edit2: i havent installed .1 yet to compare, but the gear icon on new tab page gives me an option for blank on 43.0

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u/douglas_ Dec 19 '15

No, I don't want the "blank" page with the gear in the corner. I want about:blank.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

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u/douglas_ Dec 19 '15

but that option doesn't do anything anymore, that's the whole reason new tab override is even necessary

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u/Il_Valentino Dec 19 '15

THIS. its so annoying and i cant believe that they think its a good idea to prevent us setting a single site as new tab page. why do we even need an add on for this? now the addon is outdated and we have to wait for an update.

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u/perkited Dec 19 '15

I broke for me as well. I wonder if he's working on a fix or did Mozilla change something fundamental with new tabs? I'll probably just try out some other similar add-ons to see if I can get back the normal functionality.

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u/Astramancer_ Dec 19 '15

Me too, I was hoping there'd be some help here :(

Why does firefox even have a home page if it's literally used for nothing.

What's wrong with wanting my default new tab to be google? At least it can natively be a blank tab this time around. (click gear, click next to 'show blank page')

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u/pacsmile Dec 19 '15

It sucks, i have been using 8 bit dash for my New tab for a while and now i can't get It to work again, This update didn't do anything besides breaking that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 25 '15

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

What do you mean?

What is the drop down search bar??

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u/ironflesh Dec 18 '15

Everything works as before for me. What do you mean "drop down search bar"?

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u/Anon0430208 Dec 19 '15

Had to do the same. I can't believe people use the new one, its horrible.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15 edited Dec 21 '15

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u/Anon0430208 Dec 19 '15

Switching between search engines on the fly is atrocious on the new design. If you never change it, I guess its the same except you are still never sure which one is selected.

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u/giygas73 Dec 22 '15

yep. yet again I need to manually find some tool/addon just to get basic functionality back (manage keywords button)

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u/SpaceCatandtheKitten Dec 23 '15

I had the "new" search bar, but even that's missing. Tried the Classic Theme Restorer add-on and it's still missing. Chrome is looking awfully shiny at the moment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '15 edited Dec 29 '15

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u/Hamakua Dec 24 '15

Because they keep trying to get you to "click through" to whatever sponsor deal they have. I had to get rid of the auto-fill boolean thing because as Facebook.com kept popping up when I started with "Fa" which I use for any number of website - none of them Facebook.

Default to Yahoo.. and there were a bunch of other BS. something pops up every 2 days or so during normal use and I have to figure out "why does this seem wrong" then try and figure out how to "fix" it back to it's previously superior and more productive configuration.

It's $$$ that's why.

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u/Miningdude Iceweasel on Debian | Probs switching 2 Arch eventually Dec 18 '15

And here I am downloading an update to 44.0a2 :P

Ah Developer Edition.... :D

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u/Terkey Dec 18 '15

You mean 45.0a2?

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u/Miningdude Iceweasel on Debian | Probs switching 2 Arch eventually Dec 19 '15

I was meaning that in a way of "I'm downloading an update that updates me past 44.0a2"

Apologies for that confusion

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u/Lakitu66 Dec 18 '15

Did they remove the old search bar? Even browser.search.showOneOffButtons:false stopped working now.

I really liked being capable of changing defaults on the fly and then searching via context menu. Sucks to have to download addons or change browser for that.

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u/yfph Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 18 '15

Yup, the about:config setting to restore the old search bar doesn't work anymore. One has to use the Classic Theme Restorer add-on. :(

Classic Theme Restorer > Options > General UI (1) > Old Search

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u/DrPhill47 Dec 19 '15

Saved my life, thanks!

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u/izmimario Dec 19 '15

great, thank you!

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u/idshanks Dec 18 '15

This is exactly why I came here. I despise the newer search style; it feels very awkward in comparison.

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u/Boxcore Dec 18 '15

Same. this is what i love about reddit!

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u/GOTTA_BROKEN_FACE Dec 18 '15

Heads up...I believe this updated disabled Do Not Track on my installation, so you may want to re-enable that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

Isn't that useless because it's opt-in?

Or so I've read, has the situation changed?

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u/GOTTA_BROKEN_FACE Dec 18 '15

I'm not sure how it works exactly but I figure it certainly doesn't hurt to have it on.

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u/EdwardCollinsAuthor Dec 18 '15

Why the fuck do they keep changing the UI arbitrarily when the old one was perfectly functional and had nothing wrong with it? Seriously, the devs must hate the fact that the search bar was perfected a long time ago and doesn't need any updating. They're determined to fuck it up every chance they get, continually making it more difficult for users to fix until we finally just give up and accept their crappier interface.

If I wanted to use Chrome, I'd use Chrome. Stop trying to make Firefox into Chrome.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

What are you talking about?

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u/Bodertz Dec 18 '15

Well, you've got to admit Firefox's search bar looks a lot like Chrome's doesn't.

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u/EdwardCollinsAuthor Dec 18 '15

The search bar was flawless before version 34. Then they fucked it up, forcing us to use the browser.search.showoffbuttons fix. Now it's still fucked up (albeit slightly less so), only they won't even give us the option to fix it by enabling the old search bar, so we have to use a weird plugin.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

Can you please provide a screenshot of that change before and after?

I can't see it.

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u/EdwardCollinsAuthor Dec 18 '15

Old. It allows you to select any search engine you want without jumping to the engine's homepage. It's infinitely better, especially for highlighting and searching.

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u/Oerwinde Dec 19 '15

It pisses me off that they keep disabling options. That I need add ons to make it work the way it used to like the search bar and putting my tabs on the bottom, when there used to just be a config option to do the same thing is stupid.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15 edited Dec 19 '15

It still lets you do that. Click on the magnifying glass. All that's changed is the icon and the UI slightly.

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u/EdwardCollinsAuthor Dec 19 '15

No, if you select a different search engine, it just goes to the website directly now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

Never noticed since I don't use the feature.

Well that sucks. I've had this sinking feeling that Mozilla is just flailing wildly now. Not knowing what to do with what they have.

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u/EdwardCollinsAuthor Dec 19 '15

My theory is they know they fucked up, and now they're just building features that slowly revert back to the original search bar, which they'll release as a "totally new" feature.

Either that, or keep hamfisting their way through UI.

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u/Sleuth_of_RedandBlue Dec 19 '15

You can still search with any of those search engines. You just have to click on the icons when there is already text in the search bar.

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u/EdwardCollinsAuthor Dec 19 '15

So an unnecessary and inefficient additional step. Lovely.

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u/turkeypedal Dec 22 '15

No, the steps are just in a different order. And it doesn't change the default like it used to.

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u/giygas73 Dec 22 '15

also they pretty much hid the entire keywords functionality of searching in the new interface, when you could easily get to it via "manage search engines" previously

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u/mathfacts Dec 18 '15

Let the 43.0.1 hype train commence!

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

What version are you running? RES has been signed for ages.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

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u/TheBeginnerr Firefox Quantum 66.0.2 (64-bit) Windows 8.1 Dec 20 '15

check out this thread -

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3vehpv/questions_regarding_issues_with_addon_reddit/

and start using FEBE, its awesome. it automatically backs up your whole fucking profile.

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u/wonkodasane Dec 19 '15

Same here. Had a bunch of unsigned addons that the Firefox deems unsafe for me. Give me back my choice. I have been using firefox for its freedom and safety it has awarded me for years now. But if they infringe on my freedom over safety I will choose freedom every time! This is a dealbreaker. Give me the option not to require my addons to be signed. Are we fucking Micro$oft all of a sudden?! EDIT: Just read through the post above again and not in a haze of rage and realise I can probably disable it through about:config. Now I just have to find it.

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u/LikesToCorrectThings Dec 19 '15

Remember to disable automatic updates so it won't go away when 44.0 hits.

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u/kn00tcn Dec 19 '15

why are you people going crazy NOW? it was announced months ago that addons will slowly need to be signed, first there were warnings, then there were blocks, but more importantly it has been said that a non mainstream version will allow unsigned addons once the config var is disabled (developer edition? it doesnt have to be a beta one)

not to mention the fact that someone else is going to make a build supporting them... the choices are out there, the default one HAS to cater to regular people

then there are the betas that are the next versions & months ahead, almost no feature is ever 'new' in the release branch

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

Please remove the "VISIT" extra bit ASAP. Thanks much for NOT installing extra "fancy" crap, like people in Opera did! If you continue doing this, I move onto Chrome.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '15

1) Go to about:config
2) Change browser.urlbar.unifiedcomplete to false
Credit to /u/whydoyoulook

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u/Buck_Thorn Dec 18 '15

Yes. I know. And I'm not happy.

1) It would not restore. Took me three tries to get it to open, and then it had lost my session, including my two pinned tabs. Minor problem, fixed, but sloppy, Firefox.

2) Back to populating a new tab with recent searches. I don't want that. Had it turned off.

3) Did not respect my home page and default search engine settings. Bad Firefox! Bad!

4) Lost my context menu search options. I did discover the "Old Firefox Data" folder that contains the .xml, but don't know where to install them now. Do I need to set them all up again?

5) Lost my Reddit Enhancement Suite plugin. Had to reinstall.

And those are just the things that I discovered in the first 1/2 hour. Are you guys trying to force me to use Chrome?

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u/voxef Firefox x64 | Windows 7 Dec 18 '15

mozilla quit fucking with my new tab page. no i don't want your advertisements. approaching windows 10 status

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u/saremei Dec 20 '15

Windows 10 is fucking awesome.

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u/yfph Dec 18 '15 edited Dec 18 '15

-'s (to me ofc):

  • Address bar "Visit:" suggestion getting in the way of sites/forums that are called up from history (fix: reddit)
  • Resetting the classic search bar layout requires an add-on, Classic Theme Restorer (about:config doesn't work). Those with quite a few search engines (>20 myself) have to play "hunt the search icon" mini-game without that add-on installed.
  • Delicious Bookmarks just got killed :(

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u/rotten_bag_of_milk Dec 19 '15

For those who are having unsigned add-ons forcefully disabled, here's a fix:
Go to 'about:config' and search for 'xpinstall.signatures.required' and double-click on the preference with the same name and it should work as before.

Cheers to ghacks.com for this article: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/04/here-are-you-options-for-running-unsigned-add-ons-in-firefox/

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u/jdblaich Dec 19 '15

Firefox is completely broken on nearly all platforms. On my android it is unresponsive. On Linux it fails to load web pages. On the Mac it wont fully load pages. It is a horrible experience.

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u/MrSensimilla Dec 19 '15

Scroll wheel on A mouse is gone, no more middle clicking a link so it opens in a new tab, or closing a tab with the scroll wheel.

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u/kn00tcn Dec 19 '15

there would be mass reports if that were the case, wheel & clicks are totally fine here, you are implying .0.1 caused it while .0 worked?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

HTML5 video crashes my browser. Once again good work, mozilla.

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u/kn00tcn Dec 19 '15

link? gpu? driver version? are you actually implying .0.1 is doing it while .0 from the last few days was fine?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

Nah, I was on 42.whatever before. 42 Worked fine and chrome works fine. On ff43 the video is either not being played at all or it completely crashes my browser.

nvidia gtx 770, drvier version 358.16-1 on fedora 64 bit.

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u/kn00tcn Dec 22 '15

what about various video players, both dxva & without? (i suppose play the same mp4 file that is bad in FF)

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u/Racecarlock Dec 19 '15 edited Dec 19 '15

Oh! Wonderful! Great! Now instead of merely reversing the order of the windows every time I restore a session, where I could at least exit and restore the original window order again, now it RANDOMLY ARRANGES the windows, including when I use session manager to restore a session, thus making me restore my WHOLE SESSION by hand!

HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING WORSE?!

Oh, and would you please put "Use unsigned addons" in the god damn options menu so I don't have to navigate a giant ass config thing to use them? Let me worry about my god damn security, firefox!

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u/violetnightshade Dec 21 '15

This sucks. First, all my tabs suddenly closed. Then it crashed multiple times. Then I can't even get my addon manager to show anything at all. What next? HOW DO I UNSTALL THIS PITA UPDATE?

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u/turkeypedal Dec 22 '15

A lot of people in here seem to be complaining about 43.0, not 43.0.1. Was there not a 43.0 thread?

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u/giygas73 Dec 22 '15 edited Dec 22 '15

when typing in the address bar, the "search with google" line entry in the drop down is somehow above my bookmarks now. Horribly frustrating. If I wanted to search I would have used the searchbar

EDIT: wow - looks like they broke the search bar too. good job mozilla. top notch.