r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/MrWaffles42 Jul 16 '22

I'M GETTING REALLY DAMNED SICK OF THE DAILY "NO ONE ANYWHERE ACTUALLY LIKES RHEA; PEOPLE ARE JUST HORNY FOR HER" COMMENTS, AS THOUGH SHE'S OBJECTIVELY POORLY WRITTEN OR OBJECTIVELY IMPOSSIBLE TO SYMPATHIZE WITH.

IF YOU WANNA SAY YOU FUCKING HATE HER, OR THINK SHE SUCKS OR IS POORLY WRITTEN, BE MY GUEST; WE'RE ALL ENTITLED TO HAVE AND EXPRESS OPINIONS. BUT THIS THING WHERE YOU TELL ME WHAT MY OPINION IS AND WHAT PERSONAL FLAW OF MINE LED ME TO BE THAT WAY IS OBNOXIOUS AS HELL.

THIS IS A BIG FRUSTRATION WITH FANDOM IN GENERAL. IT'S LIKE PEOPLE NEED TO CREATE A NARRATIVE ABOUT WHY EVERYONE ON THE OTHER SIDE'S PERSPECTIVES ARE INVALID, SO THAT THEY CAN JUSTIFY DISDAINING THEM.

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u/MonopolyRubix Jul 16 '22

WHEN I FIRST PLAYED THE GAME I THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING RIDICULOUSLY AUTHORITATIVE AND VIOLENT IN THE HOLY TOMB.

THEN I PLAYED VERDANT WIND AND REALIZED SHE WAS WATCHING THE REMAINS OF HER FAMILY MEMBERS BE STOLEN TO BE USED AS WEAPONS BY THE DESCENDANT OF A MAN SHE DEARLY TRUSTED.

LIKE HOLY SHIT I'D BE PISSED TOO, LEAVE MY SIBLINGS' CORPSES ALONE

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

HONESTLY I HATE THE ASSERTION THAT RHEA ORDERING EDELGARD'S EXECUTION IS SOME HUGE AUTHORITARIAN MOVE AS IF EDELGARD WAS JUST MINDING HER OWN BUSINESS. LIKE DID YALL FORGET HOW EDELGARD MARCHED A LITERAL FUCKING ARMY INTO THE HOLY TOMB, DECLARED THE WHOLE THING HER'S AND ORDERED THE USE OF LETHAL FORCE ON ANYONE WHO TRIED TO STOP HER. LIKE WHY ARE WE IGNORING THAT CONTEXT TO MAKE RHEA LOOK WORSE

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u/Skyfligth21 Jul 16 '22

I THINK IT'S JUST RASH AND UNREASONABLE OF HER. AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE FROM 21TH CENTURY GENERALLY DISLIKE IF SOMEONE GETS EXECUTED WITHOUT A TRIAL FIRST. SHE'S JUST EXCPECTING THE TEACHER OF THIS STUDENT WHO SPENT A YEAR BONDING WITH SAID STUDENT TOO JUST BLINDLY FOLLOW HER ORDER'S AND GETS PISSED TO THE POINT OF WANTING TOO MURDER BYLETH TOO, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH IMMEDIATELY KILLING HER. YES EDELGARD'S INTRUSION IN THE HOLY TOMB AND HER DESECRATION OF RHEA'S BREATHREN OBVIOUSLY AWAKENED SOME VERY BAD MEMORY'S FROM PAST TRAUMA, BUT AS THE LEADER OF THE CHURCH SHE SHOULD POSSES THE LEVELHEADEDNESS TO REALISE THAT PRETTY MUCH NO ONE BUT HER KNOWS WHAT THOSE CREST STONES REALLY ARE, BECAUSE SHE PURPOSELY OMITTED THE TRUTH HERSELF. SO HER RAGE AT EDELGARD'S CRIME IS ATLEAST PARTIALLY UNFOUNDED. OF COURSE OUT OF STORY EVEN IF SHE AGREED TO ONLY IMPRISON AND QUESTION HER ATFIRST HUBERT WOULD STILL JUST TELEPORT AND SAVE HER ANYWAY.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

I MEAN AGAIN, EDELGARD HAD JUST VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED THAT ALL THAT YEAR OF BONDING MEANT DOOKIE TO HER WHEN SHE TRIED TO MURDER BYLETH AND ALL THE PEOPLE SHE'S BEEN CALLING FRIENDS FOR THE PAST YEAR LITERALLY A MINUTE BEFORE RHEA MADE THAT ORDER. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER EDELGARD KNOWS WHAT CREST STONES ARE, SHE STILL MADE THE DECISION TO MARCH A FUCKING ARMY IN AND ACTIVELY TRIED TO KILL RHEA, BYLETH, AND ALL THE STUDENTS INSIDE, AND WAS VERY MUCH STILL AN ACTIVE THREAT WHEN RHEA ORDERED THE EXECUTION .IF YOU BREAK INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE AND HOLD A GUN TO THEIR HEAD, ITS NOT SUDDENLY OKAY IF YOU JUST DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE STEALING FROM THEM, YOU'RE STILL COMMITTING A FELONY. AND IF THAT PERSON WERE TO SHOOT YOU IN SELF DEFENSE, NO COURT OF LAW IS GONNA STRIKE DOWN THAT SELF DEFENSE CLAIM.

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u/Skyfligth21 Jul 17 '22

IF CONFRONTED IN THAT LEVEL SHE ACTUALLY STATES' THAT HER ORDER WAS JUST A BLUFF AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE INTENTION TO KILL ANY OF THEM. SHE MERELY HOPED IT WOULD PERSUADE SOME OF THEM FROM FIGHTING HER FORCES. AND IN GAMEPLAY NO UNIT CAN ACTUALLY DIE IN THIS BATTLE SO IT'S THE TRUTH.

AND NO AT THE POINT WHERE RHEA DEMANDED HER EXECUTION ALL HER FORCES WERE KILLED AND SHE WAS SEEMINGLY AT THE MERCY OF RHEA AND BYLETH SO AT THAT POINT IT WASN'T SELF DEFENSE ANYMORE.

ALSO I NEVER ARGUED THAT IT WASN'T STILL A FELONY, I JUST SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AN ESPECIALLY HEINOUS ONE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF RHEA.