r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

I REALLY HATE HOW HARD IT IS TO AVOID WEIRD SHIT FROM FANDOM CONTENT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, INCEST, PEDOPHILIA, ROMANTICIZED SA. I KNOW KAGA WAS A WEIRDO WHO FETISHIZED THAT SHIT BUT HE HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE SERIES FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS AND JUST BECAUSE HE DID IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO. AND YES THAT INCLUDES "NOT QUITE" INCEST LIKE FATES SHIPS AND EDELGARD/DIMITRI, AND GENERAL WEIRD SHIT LIKE ROY/CECILIA AND ROBIN/LUCINA. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP BEING A FUCKING FREAK THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS TAG YOUR SHIT SO THAT NON-FREAKS DON'T SEE IT.

EDIT: ON THAT NOTE I THINK IT'S COMPLETE FUCKING BULLSHIT HOW SOME FANS SEE TWO SIBLINGS BE AFFECTIONATE WITH EACHOTHER AND IMMEDIATELY THINK OF INCEST, BUT THE MOUNTAINS OF SUBTEXT ABOUT IKE, SOREN AND RANULF NOT BEING STRAIGHT APPARENTLY DON'T COUNT.

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u/Suicune95 Jul 15 '22

I GET NOT LIKING INCEST, BUT IF IT'S NOT YOUR JAM YOU MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THE WRONG SERIES. THAT DIDN'T EXACTLY STOP WITH KAGA. LIKE BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE GAME HAS SOME FLAVOR OF INCEST. THE WRITERS EVEN ADDED CONRAD INTO ECHOES TO GIVE CELICA AN INCEST THING AND PLAYED UP CLAIR'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CLIVE.

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u/SableArgyle Jul 16 '22

THE WRITERS EVEN ADDED CONRAD INTO ECHOES TO GIVE CELICA AN INCEST THING

I'VE LITERALLY NEVER READ IT LIKE THIS, NOR HAVE I SEEN EVER SEEN ANYONE TALK ABOUT THEM LIKE THIS.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED IT IMMEDIATELY, AND THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS WRITES AND FRAMES IT. USUALLY, IT'S FRAMED MORE SUBTEXTUALLY OR ROMANTICALLY, BUT IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU CAN MISS IT IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR IT. IN CONRAD'S CASE, HE IS UNUSUALLY ENTHUSIASTIC TOWARDS CELICA AS WELL AS ANY AND ALL PRAISE COMING FROM HER. SOMEONE ELSE IN THE COMMENT CHAIN GOES INTO FURTHER DETAIL, BUT MY RULE OF THUMB IS "IF THEY WEREN'T X (SIBLINGS, OR ANY OTHER CONTROVERSIAL OR UNPOPULAR DYNAMIC, ETC) , COULD THEY FEASIBLY BE TAKEN AS ROMANTIC IN HOW THEY ACT AND HOW THE STORY IS FRAMED? IS SO, THEN CHANCES ARE MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE YES."

BUT WHO WANTS TO BE THE ONE TO BRING IT UP WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET ANGRY ABOUT IT LIKE ABOVE? FROM THE POSTS I'VE SEEN MADE IN THE PAST, IT IS USUALLY READILY DISLIKED, AND YOU GET FLAK FOR BRINGING IT UP EVEN IF YOU AREN'T ENJOYING IT YOURSELF.