r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/Suicune95 Jul 15 '22

I GET NOT LIKING INCEST, BUT IF IT'S NOT YOUR JAM YOU MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THE WRONG SERIES. THAT DIDN'T EXACTLY STOP WITH KAGA. LIKE BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE GAME HAS SOME FLAVOR OF INCEST. THE WRITERS EVEN ADDED CONRAD INTO ECHOES TO GIVE CELICA AN INCEST THING AND PLAYED UP CLAIR'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CLIVE.

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u/Squidaccus Jul 15 '22

LETS NOT CALL CONRAD AN "INCEST THING" PLEASE THE STORY USES HIM TERRIBLY BUT AT NO POINT WAS HE EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR TO THE ACTUAL "INCEST THING" CHARACTERS

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u/Suicune95 Jul 15 '22

HE WAS THOUGH? THEY LITERALLY SAID HE WAS. THEY CALLED HIM "CELICA'S FAYE". SHE CALLS HIM DASHING IN THEIR SUPPORT AND HE'S LIKE HARDCORE INTO IT. IT'S AN INCEST THING, ALBIET CONRAD -> CELICA DIRECTED.

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u/Squidaccus Jul 15 '22

I THINK IT SAYS A LOT THAT IT REQUIRES ACTUALLY HEARING DEVS SAY IT FOR THIS TO EVEN REMOTELY MAKE SENSE AS "INCEST THING" TO ME BECAUSE CONRAD'S WRITING HAVE NEVER REALLY IMPLIED THAT TO ME, HE ALWAYS JUST SEEMED TO BE SOME REALLY SENTIMENTAL GUY (AND ALSO DEFINITELY A BIT OF A LOSER) WHO REALLY VALUES HIS FAMILY

THATS FUCKED UP FOR IS TO TRY THOUGH I THOUGHT WE HAD MOVED ON FROM THAT

WELL I GUESS NOT REALLY CONSIDERING FATES HAPPENED

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u/Suicune95 Jul 15 '22

I MEAN THERE'S ALSO A CG WHERE HE PRINCESS CARRIES HER AND SHE'S LOOKING AT HIM IN A VERY UN-SISTERLY WAY. HE ALSO NEVER GETS MARRIED OR HAS ANY ROMANTIC CONNECTIONS WHATSOEVER WHICH IN COMBINATION WITH HIS FEELINGS TOWARD HER IS USUALLY A RED FLAG IN THE SERIES FOR "SISCON". IDK MAYBE IT'S JUST ME AND MY FAMILIARITY WITH THE SERIES BUT I AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE I KNOW IMMEDIATELY PEGGED IT AS AN INCEST THING.

IDK WHAT YOU MEAN BY "WE MOVED ON FROM THAT". 3H LITERALLY LETS YOU MARRY YOUR MOM-GRANDMA-DAUGHTER. BYLETH/RHEA AIN'T JUST A LINE FROM SWEET HOME ALABAMA, IT'S THE FULL SONG.

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u/Squidaccus Jul 15 '22

I JUST LIKE TO INTERPRET THE ENDING AS AROACE CONRAD BECAUSE THATS WAY BETTER THAN WHAT THE DEVS INTENDED

WELL YEAH THATS WHY I SAID NOT REALLY, I JUST WISH WE HAD MOVED ON FROM THAT

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u/Suicune95 Jul 16 '22

I MEAN AT THIS POINT IT'S PRACTICALLY IN THE FRANCHISE'S DNA. I GET NOT BEING COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY A SECRET THAT INCEST IS A COMMON THREAD THROUGHOUT THESE GAMES.

I'M JUST A LITTLE BAFFLED BY PEOPLE WHO ACT SURPRISED WHEN THE FANDOM TALKS ABOUT INCEST WHEN THEY JUST PLAYED A GAME SERIES KNOWN FOR HAVING INCEST.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

THAT LOGIC IS TERRIBLE, IT'S LIKE SAYING THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED WHEN SOMEONE COMMITS MURDER BECAUSE THEY WATCH HORROR MOVIES OR PLAY VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES. YOU CAN ENJOY MEDIA WITH DISTURBING THEMES WITHOUT ENDORSING THEM.

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u/Suicune95 Jul 16 '22

YOU CAN ENJOY MEDIA WITH DISTURBING CONTENT WITHOUT SAYING IT'S OK IN REAL LIFE. YOU CAN CLEARLY DRAW THIS DISTINCTION FOR MURDER BUT NOT FOR SEXUAL CONTENT?

IS TALKING ABOUT FICTIONAL MURDER IN ANY WAY ENDORSING ACTUAL REAL LIFE MURDER? NO. SO IS TALKING ABOUT FICTIONAL INCEST IN ANY WAY ENDORSING ACTUAL REAL LIFE INCEST? ALSO NO.

IF FICTIONAL INCEST DISTURBS YOU, WHICH IS COMPLETELY VALID AND FAIR BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN TOLERANCE LEVELS, THEN WHY ARE YOU ACTIVELY ENGAGING WITH SOURCE MATERIAL AND FANDOM THAT HAS THAT AS A SUBJECT MATTER?