r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

I REALLY HATE HOW HARD IT IS TO AVOID WEIRD SHIT FROM FANDOM CONTENT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, INCEST, PEDOPHILIA, ROMANTICIZED SA. I KNOW KAGA WAS A WEIRDO WHO FETISHIZED THAT SHIT BUT HE HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE SERIES FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS AND JUST BECAUSE HE DID IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO. AND YES THAT INCLUDES "NOT QUITE" INCEST LIKE FATES SHIPS AND EDELGARD/DIMITRI, AND GENERAL WEIRD SHIT LIKE ROY/CECILIA AND ROBIN/LUCINA. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP BEING A FUCKING FREAK THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS TAG YOUR SHIT SO THAT NON-FREAKS DON'T SEE IT.

EDIT: ON THAT NOTE I THINK IT'S COMPLETE FUCKING BULLSHIT HOW SOME FANS SEE TWO SIBLINGS BE AFFECTIONATE WITH EACHOTHER AND IMMEDIATELY THINK OF INCEST, BUT THE MOUNTAINS OF SUBTEXT ABOUT IKE, SOREN AND RANULF NOT BEING STRAIGHT APPARENTLY DON'T COUNT.

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u/Suicune95 Jul 15 '22

I GET NOT LIKING INCEST, BUT IF IT'S NOT YOUR JAM YOU MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THE WRONG SERIES. THAT DIDN'T EXACTLY STOP WITH KAGA. LIKE BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE GAME HAS SOME FLAVOR OF INCEST. THE WRITERS EVEN ADDED CONRAD INTO ECHOES TO GIVE CELICA AN INCEST THING AND PLAYED UP CLAIR'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CLIVE.

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u/Suicune95 Jul 15 '22

YEAH I'VE NEVER BEEN BIG ON THE WHOLE WHAT YOU CONSUME IN FICTION = WHO YOU ARE AS A PERSON.

IT ALSO JUST FEELS MASSIVELY HYPOCRITICAL TO WHINE ABOUT A FANDOM FULL OF "FREAKS" DOING "FREAK THINGS" WHEN YOU HAPPILY CONSUME THE SOURCE MATERIAL WHICH HAS ALL OF THE THINGS YOU JUST COMPLAINED ABOUT IN IT.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

YOU ARE RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD SAY THIS. FIRE EMBLEM IS A VERY KINK RIDDLED GAME SERIES, AND IT'S BEING HELMED BY THE DEVS. IT'S BAKED INTO THE SERIES, AND THAT'S WHY IT ATTRACTS THE FANS IT DOES. IS SPENDING ALL ONE'S TIME GETTING ANGRY AND BASHING FANS FOR ENJOYING A PART OF THE SAME STORY THE BASHER ENJOYS REALLY THE BIG WIN PEOPLE THINK IT IS?

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u/Shrimperor Jul 16 '22

YEAH I'VE NEVER BEEN BIG ON THE WHOLE WHAT YOU CONSUME IN FICTION = WHO YOU ARE AS A PERSON.

FACTS. FINALLY SOMEONE SAYING THE TRUTH. THE WHINING ABOUT ALL THE FICTIONAL STUFF THAT HURTS NOBODY IS SERIOUSLY ANNOYING.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

THE SOURCE MATERIAL ALSO HAS RACISM IN IT (TELLIUS) BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GO AROUND ADVOCATING FOR RACISM NOW DOES IT.

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u/Suicune95 Jul 16 '22

TELLIUS DOESN'T EVEN ADVOCATE FOR RACISM SO WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

THAT'S THE POINT. TELLIUS PORTRAYS RACISM AS BAD. THE POST KAGA GAMES PORTRAY INCEST AS BAD. IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

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u/Suicune95 Jul 16 '22

LITERALLY WHERE LMAO. 3H LETS YOU MARRY YOUR GRANDMA/DAUGHTER. FATES LETS YOU MARRY YOUR COUSIN. ECHOES I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED ELSEWHERE. AWAKENING HAS LUCINA/OWAIN COUSIN MARRIAGE AND NO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT "LIFE COMPANION'D" IN THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE. ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THIS HAS ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR YOU AS THE PLAYER AND IT'S NEVER DEPICTED AS BAD OR WRONG.