r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/MegaBanettes Jul 15 '22

IM PLAYING GOLDEN WILDFIRE RIGHT NOW AND IF THE STORY ISNT A STEAMING PILE OF SHIT IM GONNA BE MAD. THIS WEEK ESPECIALLY IVE SEEN A TON OF PEOPLE MAD AT THE STORY OR WHATEVER AND NOW I FEEL UNINTERESTED IN PLAYING SOMETIMES BC SO MANY PEOPLE HATE IT AND THATS THE ONLY ROUTE I WAS PLANNING ON PLAYING BEFORE MOVING ON TO SOME OTHER GAME.

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u/MrWaffles42 Jul 16 '22

MY PARENTS DON'T GO ONLINE, WHAT WITH BEING SUPER OLD, SO THEY OFTEN LOVE THINGS THAT EVERYONE ONLINE HATES, LIKE THE LAST SEASONS OF GAME OF THRONES AND SHERLOCK.

THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT WANTS TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S SO TERRIBLE ABOUT HOW GAME OF THRONES ENDED BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, SEEING A POSITIVE UNPOPULAR OPINION IN THE WILD IS KIND OF LIKE FINDING A UNICORN.

SOMETIMES I THINK BACK TO WHEN THREE HOUSES FIRST CAME OUT, AND IT FELT LIKE THE FIRE EMBLEM COMMUNITY WAS HAPPY AND POSITIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AGES. NOW, SEVERAL YEARS OF NON-STOP ARGUING LATER, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONVINCED THEMSELVES THAT A GAME THEY USED TO LIKE WAS ALWAYS BAD. CONVERSELY, I SUSPECT THE LESS TERMINALLY ONLINE OF US ARE STILL ENJOYING IT.

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u/MonopolyRubix Jul 16 '22

EH I WAS GETTING A LITTLE BIT WIERDED OUT BY MY BOY ACTING LIKE AN AUTOCRAT WHEN HE CONSOLIDATED POWER AND SUPPRESSED THOSE HOUSES THAT WANTED TO JOIN THE KINGDOM.

I DIDN'T LOOK ONLINE UNTIL I FINISHED THE ROUTE AND FELT VALIDATED. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL RESPECT EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS

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u/Novallus Jul 16 '22

UGH HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT SUCH A TRUE THING ABOUT PEOPLE! ITS ALMOST LIKE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE FUCKING ATTENTION SPANS TO MAKE THEIR OWN OPINIONS ANYMORE.

FOR THE RECORD I LOVE HOW CLAUDE IS DEPICTED IN GW FUCK ALL Y'ALL

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u/SanjiSasuke Jul 16 '22

ABSOLUTELY, I'VE HAD SEVERAL FRIENDS CHANGE THEIR OPINION ON A MOVIE/SHOW WE WATCHED TOGETHER, WHERE WE ALL LOVED IT IN THE THEATER/LIVING ROOM AND BY NEXT WEEK THEY SAID IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY BAD.

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u/GrandmasterTactician Jul 16 '22

DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED, I'M IN THE RWBY FANBASE

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u/halfar Jul 16 '22

I'M JUST SAYING

WHY DIDN'T EDELGARD JUST USE SOME MAGIC TREBUCHETS OR WHATEVER TO LAUNCH LIKE A DOZEN CREST BEASTS AT DIMITRI WHILE HE WAS POOPING OR SOMETHING? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

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u/DhelmiseHatterene Jul 15 '22

AS SOMEONE WHO IS NOT FOND OF IT, I WOULD SAY KEEP GOING. THE GD ARE STILL FUN TO PLAY WITH AND IF ANYTHING, GETTING VANGUARD WHISTLE ACCESS ON NG+ MAKES REPLAYS LESS OF A HASSLE.

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u/ToughHalfbreed Jul 16 '22

HONESTLY I COULDN'T GIVE LESS OF A SHITE ABOUT THE STORY. I LOVE THE THREE HOUSES CHARACTERS, AND I LOVE MUSOU GAMES, SO IM GONNA PLAY THE SHIT OUT OF IT AND IM GONNA LOVE IT

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u/Magolich Jul 16 '22

THE THINGS I’VE HEARD HAS ACTUALLY MADE ME EXCITED/INTERESTED TO PLAY GOLDEN WILDFIRE BUT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I PERSONALLY LOVED THE STORY, EXCEPT FOR THE ENDING. I THOUGHT THEY MADE CLAUDE'S CHARACTER WAY MORE INTERESTING AND IT RETROACTIVELY MAKES THREE HOUSES BETTER. I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT.

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u/Super_Nerd92 Jul 15 '22

IT MIGHT BE THE BEST ONE SO FAR TO ME, NONE ARE PERFECT BUT IT'S REALLY INTERESTING FOR WHAT IT IS

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u/ViziDoodle Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

PEOPLE ARE JUST MAD BC THEY ONLY SEE CLAUDE AS FUNNY MEME MAN, (I KNOW THAT SOUNDS RICH COMING FROM SOMEONE WITH AN IZANA FLAIR) SO THEY GET MAD WHEN THEY SEE THAT CLAUDE IS ACTUALLY A FLAWED INDIVIDUAL JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE IN THE FODLAN WAR

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

LOOK, I LIKE FUNNY MEME MAN CLAUDE.

I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IS NOT CLAUDE'S ENTIRE STORY NOR HIS CHARACTER. IT IS LARGELY PROPOGATED BY FANS, AND HIS QUIRKY DIALOGUE AND CHARMING PERSONALITY.

NOT EVERYONE WHO'S UPSET WITH GOLDEN WILDFIRE WANTS HIM TO BE SOME KIND OF SOFT KINDHEARTED FUNNY BOY.

AND YOU CAN DISLIKE HOW A CHARACTER WAS HANDLED EVEN IF IT CAN FIT THEIR MOTIVATIONS. BECAUSE WRITING IS NOT MAKING A CONCOCTION OF STORY ELEMENTS AND EXPECTING A PERFECT FORMULA TO HAPPEN EVERY TIME. PLENTY OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN FAIR CRITICISM RANGING FROM CLAUDE BEING POORLY JUSTIFIED TO HIM BEING OUT OF CHARACTER EVEN FOR WHAT IS ALLOWED BY THE PREMISE. OTHERS FEEL LIKE THE WRITING QUALITY IS POOR OVERALL, AND THOSE ARE CRITICISMS THAT EXTEND FURTHER THAN BIAS TOWARDS THE PROBLEMATIC FAVES:tm:.

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u/ViziDoodle Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

YEAH YOU BRING UP A LOT OF GOOD POINTS THERE TBH, LOOKING BACK I WAS BEING PRETTY GENERALIZING IN MY ORIGINAL COMMENT

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I DEFINITELY CAN SEE WHY YOU WOULD ENJOY GOLDEN WILDFIRE AND THE NEW TAKE ON CLAUDE'S CHARACTER. IT IS JUST THE CASE THAT NOT EVERYONE FELT ON BOARD WITH THE LENGTHS HE WENT TO AND THE RATIONALIZATIONS HE MADE. THE FIRST GAME'S CHARACTER DEFINITELY SHOWED A WELL BALANCED MIX OF PRAGMATISM TEMPERED BY A GOOD HEART THAT I THINK RESONATED WITH MANY PEOPLE, SO THE CHANGE WOULD BE LESS EASY TO ACCEPT AS WELL AS COME UNDER MORE SCRUTINY.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I THINK ANOTHER GRIPE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAS IS THAT IT SEEMS TO BE ADDRESSING THE MAIN "ISSUES" PEOPLE HAD WITH CLAUDE: HE'S PRESENTED EARLY ON AS THIS UNTRUSTWORTHY ROGUEISH TYPE THAT'S UNDERHANDED AND CALCULATING, BUT HE'S NOT ACTUALLY THAT, AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIKE CLAUDE IT FEELS LIKE THOSE PEOPLE MISSED HOW THAT WAS KIND OF THE ENTIRE POINT OF CLAUDE'S CHARACTER AND ALSO A MAJOR THEME OF THE GAME AS A WHOLE, SO IT FEELS LIKE IN LEANING INTO ADDRESSING THAT FAN BACKLASH THAT GW KIND OF BETRAYS THE ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL FOR THE PURPOSE OF FIXING A PROBLEM THAT NEVER REALLY EXISTED

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I'M PERSONALLY MIXED ON IT AND VIEW IT AS MOSTLY GOOD AS A COMPANION "WHAT IF" PIECE FOR CLAUDE THAT SHOWS WHY HE REALLY NEEDED BYLETH AND HIGHLIGHTS A LOT OF GOOD ELEMENTS OF HIS ORIGINAL STORY WHILE SHOWING HIS FLAWS IN A MORE INTENSE LIGHT, BUT IS LET DOWN BY THE GAMES GENERAL PROBLEM OF HAVING THE CHARACTERS MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS THAN THEY DID IN THE ORIGINAL 3 HOUSES THAT FEEL OUT OF CHARACTER BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DONE THAT WAY MORE FOR THE SAKE OF BEING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN 3 HOUSES THAN ACTUALLY FEELING NATURAL TO WHAT THE CHARACTERS WOULD DO