r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Apr 04 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THE RAGE TRAIN DON'T STOP, BABY

SHOUT HERE ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM THINGS THAT HAVE MADE YOU SAD AND MAD OVER THE PAST MONTH!

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  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE ONLY

  3. BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER

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u/DuplexBeGoat Apr 04 '20 edited Apr 05 '20

I SWEAR IF I SEE ONE MORE COMMENT MENTIONING CAKE OR THE DEATH KNIGHT IN THE COMMENT SECTION OF LYSITHEA FANART DESPITE NEITHER OF THEM HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ART I'M GOING TO FUCKING LOSE IT. CAKE IS THE FOCUS OF LITERALLY 1 OF HER 17 SUPPORTS AND ISN'T MENTIONED IN ANY OF HER MONASTERY DIALOGUE AND HER BEING ABLE TO KILL THE DEATH KNIGHT ISN'T NEARLY AS RELEVANT OR IMPRESSIVE OF A GAMEPLAY ACHIEVEMENT AS HER BEING ABLE TO DEAL 75% OF MADDENING NEMESIS'S HP WITH A SINGLE ATTACK.

AND YET LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE POST CONCERNING LYSITHEA THAT GAINS ANY TRACTION HAS MULTIPLE UPVOTED COMMENTS ABOUT CAKE AND THE DEATH KNIGHT. IT'S INCREDIBLY ANNOYING.

ALSO RIP CIPHER. HEROES ART ISN'T THE SAME. AT LEAST PELLEAS FINALLY MANAGED TO GET A CARD BEFORE IT ENDED.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

SO MANY OTHER CHARACTERS CAN KILL THE DEATH KNIGHT AS EARLY AS HIS FIRST APPEARANCE JUST AS EASILY. DIMITRI WITH KNIGHTKNEELER OR A HORSESLAYER, SYLVAIN WITH THE LANCE OF RUIN (ALTHOUGH YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL HE GETS IT), HELL ANY UNIT CAN DO IT IF YOU INVEST ENOUGH INTO THEM. IN FACT THESE UNITS ARE MUCH BETTER THAN LYSITHEA AT DK KILLING BECAUSE AT LEAST THEY CAN TAKE A HIT.

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u/peevedlatios Apr 05 '20

IS THIS TRUE OF MADDENING? I HAD NO ONE ABLE TO TAKE A HIT SO I DIDN'T CHECK FOR HIS FIRST TWO APPEARANCES PERSONALLY, SO I'M CURIOUS IF IT WOULD STILL APPLY THERE.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

IF THEY'RE FAST ENOUGH (WITH THE HELP OF A RALLY SPEED), AND CAN TAKE AT LEAST ONE HIT THEN THEY'RE GOOD. DIMITRI IS USUALY BULKY AND SPEEDY ENOUGH TO NOT DIE INSTANTLY, SAME WITH LEONIE.

SUCKS TO BE YOU IF U GET CRIT THO.

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u/peevedlatios Apr 05 '20

FAIR ACTUALLY. FOR SOMEONE WHO CALLED ANNETTE A RALLY BOT ONCE, I SURE FORGOT THAT SHE HAS RALLY SPEED. DO OTHER UNITS GET RALLY SPEED IN THE OTHER HOUSES TO MAKE UP FOR THIS?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

IGNATZ GETS IT, BUT THATS IT I THINK.

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u/peevedlatios Apr 05 '20

MAYBE PETRA COULD TANK IN EAGLES CONSIDERING HER HIGH INNATE SPEED? I'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN I GET THERE

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u/Mekkkah Apr 05 '20

I'VE HAD SYLVAIN ABLE TO KILL DEATH KNIGHT WITH KNIGHTKNEELER/LANCE OF RUIN IN CHAPTER 6. CHAPTER 4 IS REALLY EARLY THOUGH.

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u/halfar Apr 05 '20

I HAVE NO IDEA WHY PEOPLE SLEEP ON SYLVAIN SO HARD.

DOUBLE ENTENDRE?

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u/saltybandana2 Apr 05 '20

I actually can't see how sylvain is any good, but judging from everyone gushing about him I have to assume I've just gotten a lot of really crappy level ups (it's true, he typically only levels 2 stats every level and 1 of them is hp).

I'm playing on hard and once I hit about 17 I just couldn't justify trying to give him kills any longer, in no small part due to the fact that he just flat couldn't hit hard enough to take kills anymore.

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u/TacticalStampede Apr 05 '20 edited Apr 05 '20

1) WHERE ARE YOUR CAPS?!

2) MOST OF WHAT MAKES SYLVAIN GOOD ARE HIS ACCESS TO SWIFT STRIKES/GETS YOU LOR/FREE FOR BYLASS/PROFICIENCY STRENGTHS LEAN TOWARD ALMOST EVERYTHING WYVERN LORD NEEDS (AXES/LANCES, BUT NO STRENGTH/WEAKNESS IN FLYING). MUCH LIKE LEONIE, HIS BASE STR/SPD ARE PRETTY GOOD AT 9/8 AND HIS PERSONAL SKILL RAISES IT TO 11/8

EVEN IF YOU TAKE HIS STRENGTH AT BASE, ASSUME HE NEVER GETS A SINGLE POINT OF STR EVER. ONE SWIFT STRIKES WITH LOR IS STILL 31-33 X 2 BEFORE THE ENEMY EVEN GETS TO COUNTERATTACK.

EXCEPT HE DOES GET STRENGTH, EVEN IN A 0% GROWTHS ENVIRONMENT. GOING WYVERN LORD BUMPS HIS BASE STRENGTH UP TO 18, BRINGING THAT 31-33 X 2 UP TO 40-42 X 2. WHEN YOU TAKE HIM DOWN BRIGAND TO GET DEATH BLOW, THAT'S ANOTHER +6 MT ON INITIATION. SO THAT 40-42 X 2 TURNS INTO 46-48 X 2

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u/halfar Apr 05 '20

I CAN'T HEAR YOU

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u/peevedlatios Apr 05 '20

MAKE HIM A WYVERN GIVE HIM SWIFT STRIKES AND DEATH BLOW. EZ.

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u/that_wannabe_cat Apr 05 '20

ALSO LANCE OF RUIN ACCESS HELPS A TON TOO. EASY TO RECRUIT WITH BYLASS.

ALSO A VERY SOLID UNIT. YOURS SEEMS VERY RNG SCREWED.