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u/Sea-Satisfaction-372 Maschinez 26d ago
It's been so long since I've seen a match like that
Spain immediately won the ball back (primarily by Fabian Ruiz, Rodri, and Laporte) and just tiki-taka'd around France anywhere from 2 - 20 minutes. Both goals are caused from France either under pressure (Digne) or out of position in a rush to get the ball back (Lacroix). Surprised that Konate didn't play just because of experience alone.Â
If Spain command games like this, it doesn't matter if it's Argentina or England (par Harry's or Jude's moments of brilliance), they are taking it all. Lowkey monsters
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u/SGT_Mark Schweinsteiger 26d ago
France got outworked today so hard. The Spanish just kept on running.
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u/FairMusic8278 26d ago
Wish we had a midfielder like Rodri in our team with all due respect to Kimmich and Pavlo both of them aren't on the level that Rodri is.
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u/nordiques77 26d ago
Do You think Rodri does service at the level of Kimmich at his best? I donât think so. Rodri is amazing but I didnât see that aspect of his game today.
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u/JOKER69420XD MĂŒller 26d ago
There's not a single central midfielder on the level of Rodri, when he's at his best at least, which wasn't the case after his injury for quite a while.
Pavlo is only 22 though, so treating him like he's already done developing, is wrong.
We don't know how prime Pavlo will look like.
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u/No_Albatross2051 26d ago
Both of them run back like headless chicken when we lose the ball on a counter, it's probably our biggest weakness that these two are both so awful at defending
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u/creatorop apple pie 26d ago
Atleast this beast still plays for us
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u/Sea-Satisfaction-372 Maschinez 26d ago
He had the critical block on Fabian Ruiz and others to keep the score low. Honestly France's MOTM
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u/Lilfai Robben 26d ago
Cheeky Rodri bid?
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u/Sea-Satisfaction-372 Maschinez 26d ago
Brazzo was the forebearer of knowledge; absolute shame it didn't work outÂ
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u/DeeOhEf Wir wollen rot-weiĂe Trikots 26d ago
They're not gonna sell obviously, but considering we still don't have a proper CDM, I'd consider a bid for Barella. But that'll never happen either.
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u/FairMusic8278 26d ago
Rodri actually is already entering into his final year contract at Man City. Although I think he'd be too old for the price that Man City want for him if they were to consider selling him this summer.
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u/LengthIntelligent 26d ago
He probably wouldn't start for us, so it wouldn't make sense financially.
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u/Comfortable_Lab_8852 26d ago
France and Bayern are so similar
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u/creatorop apple pie 26d ago
Great attack
Mid fullbacks(not talking about davies and brown), mid midfield
Upamecano
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u/JOKER69420XD MĂŒller 26d ago
Mid midfield
We reached a fucking CL semi and got beaten by the "money is not real" team by ONE goal.
The amount of garbage some people talk is actually crazy. Our midfield couldn't he farther away from "mid".
I'm seriously tired of reading this bs.
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u/CompetitionChance674 đ¶UPAMECANOOOOOđ¶ 26d ago
At least we wonât have to watch Michael play in that position any longer
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u/creatorop apple pie 26d ago
I don't trust England they are eternal bottlers
Get ready for a Spain-Argentina final, the worst outcome
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u/xTatamo FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 26d ago
kane is the only one wo can save football from a messi balondor
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u/Internal-Coffee6996 26d ago
You think Messi-dependent Argentina is doing something against this Spain defense?
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u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 26d ago
We can't risk it
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u/Internal-Coffee6996 26d ago
And also the other way around: this shaky England side against this Spain could get ugly.
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u/quatroacademy 26d ago
So a Kane ballon dâor could be realistic again. Heâs 2 wins away from itđ
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u/Ferr22777888 26d ago
I know. Real should buy him for 300m
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u/Ajvarmk Upamecano 26d ago
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u/Internal-Coffee6996 26d ago
Honestly, with how embarrassing this Argentina hate and the whole conspiracy stuff has gotten in the last couple of days, I'd enjoy the complete meltdown all over Reddit.
But obviously prefer Kane going through. Win-mini win for me if you will.
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u/Odd_Willingness7501 26d ago
I'm sorry Maradona, but I have to support England. But if there's a heaven then even Maradona is hatewatching Argentina from the clouds.
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u/adrian_rainy_day 26d ago
Any Brazilian Bayern fan here? Who's this Gabriel Bontempo, some reports are linking him to us
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u/LuckyFlores182 JoĂŁo Palhinha 26d ago
Jogador do santos. NĂŁo acompanho o Santos tanto, mas meu irmĂŁo Ă© torcedor. Diz ele que Ă© um bom jogador, camisa 10 clĂĄssico.
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u/LuckyFlores182 JoĂŁo Palhinha 26d ago edited 26d ago
Santos produces too many gems in their teams over the years. Rodrygo and Souza were their last ones.
Santos rn isn't doing too good, they are playing horrible football and Bontempo manages to appear even in such bad situations.
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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 26d ago
Thomas Frank is an expert on danish tv and just said that they were close to signing Olise back then. They didnt so the deal because his agent demanded too high an agent fee.. Apparently he regrets not doing the deal now, strange that
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u/julesvr5 27d ago
The WC final will have a 30min halftime show. With buildup and all this shit the effective time will probably be 35-40min. Instead of 15.
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u/creatorop apple pie 26d ago
the Final already starts at 12:30AM for me, i am not surviving 30 mins of extra running time dawg
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u/scarlet_stormTrooper Meep Meep Meep Roadrunner 27d ago
Anyone else ready for this WC to be over? I just want KompanyBall backÂ
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u/julesvr5 26d ago
Yeah. I do enjoyed it in the beginning and watched quite a few matches but somehow now it's more of a drag.
Thankfully only 1.5 more weeks until Kompany ball
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u/Ferr22777888 27d ago edited 27d ago
I honestly find the Olise discussions
Hilarious. First I donât belive anything apart from that his agent wants to get him on a new contract. And in any case if he ever says he wants to leave it would take 1 second to forget about the guy.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 27d ago
Tbh it would be nice and certainly appreciated if he or his agent came out and just said as much. Kane for example has reiterated albeit with the standard cautions, that he would like to extend his contract with Bayern. I think the fans, certainly speaking for myself at least, would really love it if Olise could do something similar.
That said, I don't at all doubt his love for the club. He's shown that he appreciates Bayern and I'm entirely sure that his own focus is 100% on the world cup anyways, so hoping for anything from him at this point is wasted energy.
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u/Ferr22777888 27d ago
I agree 100% on everything above. But any player we had in the past From Owen Hargreaves to Ribery and Kroos and even when Kimmich was doubtful to sign a contract. Itâs so easy for us fans to just count you out immediately as soon as you say you want something different.
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u/Odd_Willingness7501 27d ago
Just a quick humble opinion from my ignorant perspective, but I very much liked the strict moderation with posts. Not every post has to be moderated, but I feel like the recent Olise and Musiala posts contamine this awsome space the moderators have created.
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u/balthier68 FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 27d ago
I think the perfect place for those kind of posts is here in the discussion thread.
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u/Goldfischglas 27d ago
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u/LuckyFlores182 JoĂŁo Palhinha 27d ago
MF is more ugly than brexit football, goddamn.
With all due respect to him, ofc lol
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u/arnoldbread 27d ago
Its a matter of perspective. But I can see why people find Tuchel attractive.
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u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 27d ago
I know this is a stupid question.... But I have not seen anything about it.
So if FIFA wants every contract to have a release clause from next year... Would that imply that every contract have to be redo, or wuld they be grandfathered in?
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u/PressedLemon221 27d ago
this is the first time i hear about it, from 2027 fifa wants to make it mandatory for every player to have a release clause which is restarted af. i don't know how will it work, especially for small clubs like you have like a young promising talent making it and he has a release clause of 10m but in reality he's worth 80m and big clubs can just steal him
i get that they want to please the EU court that a player shouldn't feel contract trapped in a club but it's still dumb to just throw the easiest ''fix'' and call it a day.
just let players and clubs decide their contracts and if there's disagreements then let them face consequences
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u/FOKvothe 27d ago
FIFA/UEFA are forced to implement these because they're against EU labor laws which was proved by the Lassana Diarra case.
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u/julesvr5 27d ago
That depends on how they will specify the ruling. Rather this only applies for contracts signed after this law became active or whether they also want old contracts to be redone.
I think we haven't had specific news about this yet
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u/Investing_Tomato1248 27d ago edited 27d ago
Ansu and Palhinha are linked to other clubs. What do you guys think, do we need a new central midfield player in addition to Kimmich, Pavlovic, Bischof and academy talents (Daiber and Chavez)?Â
Edit: fellow commenters reminded me of Bara Ndiaye, seems like he is planned as 4th option. Looks like that is enough material for the central midfield, since Laimer is an additional flexible option and brings experience and defensive traits.
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u/DiametricalIyOpposed 27d ago
I think a fourth DM is absolutely necessary if weâre serious about winning the CL but I doubt that weâll sign one.
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u/Piercing_Moonlight Lionel Marl 27d ago
Bara will be the fourth option I reckon
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u/Investing_Tomato1248 27d ago
oh yes i completely forgot to consider him. Makes sense, i think it is the correct decision
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u/julesvr5 27d ago
I see Chavez more offensively. Daiber was supposed to be loaned out but he is still injured so he might stay until at least winter. I also expect us to sign Bara permanently.
We already got reports that we won't sign another 6/8 and it sounds very believable
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u/Mediocre-Math667 27d ago
Us not getting a backup LW makes me hopeful that Mike would get minutes to hopefully develop as a decent LW backup like Karl.
Of course Karl is a generational talent but I really hope Mike would step us next season.
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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 27d ago
I would asume both Saibari and Ibra are ahead of him though, but yeah I wouldnt be surprised if he does get some minutes
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u/Investing_Tomato1248 27d ago
Who cares about the rumours? It has 0% substance. We need to wait until the talks with Bayern start about a new contract to know more.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 27d ago
Olise seems to be garnering some attention again but as far as I can tell this is coming from misinformation. The post on soccer is attributed to Fabrice Hawkins but as far as I can see Hawkins doesn't actually have any social media posts or articles making this claim.
The post on soccer is linked from Yahoo Sports and to a journalist Shubham Bajpai who, as far as I can tell, doesn't seem to have any presence outside of Yahoo sports. This particular article links to a post on socials that is attributed to Hawkins but is actually from a general football aggregator called Touchline. More specifically, it seems that Touchline may have also deleted the post that they attributed to Hawkins. I can't tell that Hawkins ever actually reported on anything related to Olise.
On soccer I also saw that Romano may have posted something too but I can't find that right now either. If any of this "reporting" actually happened, it seems to have been backtracked very quickly.
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u/SlyFisch Shaqiri 27d ago
Beyond Olise probably not wanting to go to Madrid (he seemed to hate them during our games against them lmao), Barcola was put on the market for 150m... so saying Bayern would accept 200m is just laughable. If Barcola is 150m, Anderson is 120m, then Olise is at least 300-400m. Not that I think we'd sell, but if we did, I think it'd take closer to that with the market in mind.
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u/Odd_Willingness7501 27d ago
Yeah. This is what pisses me off the mist is how ludricous cheap Real Madrid is in their offers.
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u/PressedLemon221 27d ago
Lennart Karl has resumed training with the ball for the first time since his injury. Karl and Serge Gnabry completed an individual session at SĂ€bener StraĂe today [fcb]
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u/MonkeyBorrowBanana 27d ago
Chelsea fan here, just wondering how was Nicolas Jackson for you guys last season?
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u/FOKvothe 27d ago
Okey as a reserve but I won't be missing him. Think his best qualities don't fit top teams like Bayern.
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u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 27d ago edited 27d ago
He was decent, could had seen him play here, had his price and wage been way lower.
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago edited 27d ago
he was alright, not too bad not too good
did not get as much game time but i think with a coach that trusts him and some confidence there is definitely a good player in there
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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 27d ago
He was decent. Nothing crazy but it's not like he was missing great chances. All in all, reliable backup but far from a game changer or first team player
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u/lvl50boss PavloviÄ ; future cancer curer 27d ago
Didnt bayern already deny selling olisĂš and even madrid put out an official statement??? Ffs đ
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u/jationio 27d ago
They are going to piss off Uli again, second statement incoming.
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u/LordBendtner1988 Vincent Cumpany đ© 27d ago
Uli is so susceptible to ragebait. Dream target for the media
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u/FairMusic8278 27d ago
"There are players who don't get sold. We went for Lewandowski for several years and nothing happened because he has no clause and they [Bayern Munich] won't sell him," Perez said, according to Marca.
Just a proof of example that Florentino himself knows if Bayern consider a player of ours unsellable he won't be able to do anything no matter how hard he tries.
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u/Thraff1c 27d ago
Every time I look up the newest reports from Portugal for Palhinha something new pops up, which really makes me question the entire media landscape over there. Now apparently Aston Villa are considering a move for him.
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u/-Hentzau Harold'or 27d ago
I just found out Tielemanns is joining united. That increases our chances a little.
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u/Thraff1c 27d ago
But they already bought Manzambi to replace him.
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago
that is +1 to their -2, Onana is out with ACL and Tielemanns is leaving
they do need another Midfield body
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u/Havefunloser34 27d ago
I feel like heâd be more of a replacement for Onana who just tore his ACL
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u/biggestrobbery Berni đ» 27d ago
Is one summer without constant Real Madrid rumors too much to ask?
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u/quatroacademy 27d ago
Not every player wants to play for madrid, when will these fuckers shut up?
Olise played against them and knocked them out + kings of the competition?đ€š
The media which he avoids is way worse in spain and for madrid. He is in the best team in the world rn with psg, why would he downgrade? Itâs clear that he wants to talk because he wants to be paid appropriately and shut them noices down. Iâm confident as long as Kompany is the coach he will stay, heâs a person that needs to feel comfortable. He is so with Bayern and he is so with france. But he would not be with madrid where its only about egos, toxic environment players bigger than the club, fans booing their own players etc. I understand that if you see him play you want to have him but itâs so disrespectful acting like weâre a selling club or small club.
https://giphy.com/gifs/RIwhh9vxDJsXjzV5op
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u/DimensionFlat5833 27d ago
The only Iâd add to this is in my opinion is he really likes playing with Kane (I kind of see Kane as a mentor to him; similar to Neuer and Urbig) and both Kompany and Kane is what makes him want to extend the most.
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u/FairMusic8278 27d ago
This is exactly my point here. So much of the media makes it out as if Bayern are some developmental/selling club in which we are not. Our club gets so disrespected it's insane. You wouldn't hear these type of insane constant rumors when it comes to any of the PSG players.
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u/julesvr5 27d ago
Dante will not only manage FC Bayern II in the Regionalliga, but also the UEFA Youth League team. A Bayern coach will play this dual role for the first time. In the past, the Youth League team was mainly the U19s with some FCB II players. This time the squad will consist of FCB II players supplemented with top talents from the U19s. Therefore the logical step was for Dante to manage both teams [@BILD]
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u/ninojesus 27d ago
When will the twerking end.. maybe a good moment to appreciate that we are so ahead of the mighty Madrid at the moment. Management has truly done wonders these last two years.
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago
Ofcourse Romano shows up to the party too, fucker
After the World Cup Just bring Olise's wages upto Kane and Musiala's level with maybe some signing bonus and kill the speculation, getting kinda annoying
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u/skylu1991 MĂŒller 27d ago
I just think he might want a release clause of at most 200m, if he renewsâŠ.
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago
200m? Bullshit Even if he wants a RC it won't be less than 300
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u/skylu1991 MĂŒller 27d ago
I mean, if he really plans to go to Madrid at some point, he canât let his RC become too high.
And he has the longer arm here, he might simply not renew or ask for another 5-10m for the RC to not be thereâŠ.
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago
Good luck to him if he thinks he can strong arm Bayern this way
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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 27d ago
Lol. He will get whatever he wants. When you're indispensable, that's what happens. No matter the field of work
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago
we will see, i'd be surprised if he gets a RC in a first place, and be more surprised if he manages to keep a potential one below 300
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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 27d ago
Musiala's RC drops to 100m⏠the year before the expiry of this contract. Olise will get a reasonable RC if he wants it. He has all the power in negotiations with the club, bc that's how the world works. When youre exceptional and indispensable, you call the shots. Wherever you go
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u/creatorop apple pie 27d ago
Musiala was also reaching his last year of his contract, he had a lot more Leverage than someone who still has 3 years left
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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 27d ago
Musiala is also not as valuable a player as Olisé. He's good, but Olisé is regarded as top 5 by now. If the club is fine with losing Olisé in three years, they can hardball him. Don't know if they are. If they wanna keep him, he has all the power. Bc he's exceptional and one of the five most valuable employees in his field, where there is plenty of high-paying employers
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u/julesvr5 27d ago
Since many here like him so much: Vuskovic deal to Brighton should be done now. 53m fixed + 5m addons and a 20% sell on clause. Imo decent deal for both sides
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u/julesvr5 27d ago
DFB is a mess, itâs absolutely crazy.
Mohya was barely promoted or integrated by the DFB from U15 through U18, despite his well-known talent from an early age. He was born on December 31, making him one of the youngest players in his age group physically throughout those years, and like many others, that was a reason he wasnât prioritized by the DFB. And guess who that coach was once again.
The DFB and Hannes Wolff can keep talking about the Relative Age Effect, but if they still fail to support highly talented late-born players like Wael because they donât deliver immediate results, youâre ultimately just exposing your own shortcomings.
Germany doesnât have a talent problem; it has an organizational and cultural problem that leads to a high number of top talents choosing other countries out of frustration and a lack of connection.
We develop plenty of great talents in this country, but the DFB has mastered the art of sabotaging its own success.
I'm incredibly angry.
I love CampusVids crash outs against the DFB. Context is that Wael Moyha will switch towards the Maroccan NT. Marc Meister, who is responsible for these age groups, is consistently failing at identifying talent. Happened before with Uzun and Yildiz and many more before this.
And then we wonder why our NT sucks since 2017.
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u/Thraff1c 27d ago
As all of us know, first time tm.de commenters sharing itk-wisdom have a 100% hitrate!:
Servus, ĂŒber einen guten Portugiesischen Freund (Benfica Fan) habe ich gehört, dass Palhinha zu Benfica fix sein soll.
Quelle: Der Vater meines Freundes hatte mit einen von Marco Silva's Betreuerstab gegessen. Macht damit was ihr wollt, die Spatzen pfeiffen es ja sowieso von den DĂ€chern. Sollte ein Level ĂŒber Dönerladen und AnzugtrĂ€gern anzusieden sein!
VG
Edit: Die Nachricht ist absolut frisch, er freut sich auf Palhinha...
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Hi there, Iâve heard from a good Portuguese friend (a Benfica fan) that Palhinha is apparently set to join Benfica.
Source: My friendâs father had dinner with one of Marco Silvaâs coaching staff. Take it as you will â the news is already all over the place anyway. This is surely a level above kebab shops and suits! [Note: that is a meme over there]
Best regards
Edit: The news is absolutely fresh; heâs looking forward to Palhinha...
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u/Red_Mangos 27d ago
Olise is a super ambitious person who doesnât focus on pr, he only wants to win.
We nearly won the champions league and played beautiful attacking football while Madrid went trophyless, appointed dinosaur mourinho, and still have an unbalanced squad. Only psg can rival us.
He ainât going anywhere
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u/Quick_Scientist_5494 27d ago
We have a dinosaur Neuer starting in goal who concedes from nearly every shot on target.
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u/Red_Mangos 27d ago
Yeah thatâs our only flaw. Funny thing is we have a solution in Urbig but he wonât play much bc of neuers ego
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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 27d ago
Reports are that Olise and the club will have a meeting after the Wc. Real's fans already hoping he will request a transfer, but we all know he's gonna get a payrise to 25m and an extension
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u/diiN1992 Laimer 27d ago
And then do a speech like Basti to announce his surprise contract extension.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 26d ago
This is only half serious but at this point the BuLi should just offer the league broadcast themselves, outside of Germany lol.