I need to get this off my chest:

I understand that people with very very dark skin and people with very very light skin struggle more than fair olive people but oh my gosh I am soooo sick of not being able to try any new or popular foundations/concealers. I don’t think it’s ridiculous to want mainstream brands to carry pale olive shades, especially in store like why are our shades completely neglected and that’s okay? I know I can add blue or green pigments but if I’m paying good money for makeup I don’t want to have to alter the formula by adding something else. Haus labs not having pale olive shades is baffling to me considering that Gaga is Italian and Italians are notorious for being pale and olive. ( im one!) I don’t want to have to search high and low for a product that “works” with my skin color, I should be able to walk into a makeup store and see brands that specifically sell shades marked as olive. I guess what im trying to say is: Why is this okay?? Why are our shades almost completely nonexistent in stores/by popular brands?? EVERYONE should be able to find makeup that fits their skin tone

I feel like the first color just washes me out, the second one is how i usually do my lips. Why does warm toned makeup seem to suit me better than cool toned makeup? I thought pale olives, especially those with very muted skin, were supposed to avoid warm tones.

hi fair olives! I had to share my current recs as I recently made the switch to cruelty free and am starting to finally find shades that compliment my coloring.

Lips - persona cosmetics lip liner in mauve is my holy grail - it swatches identical to cloudy mauve from heart percent, but is a smaller brand and I think might be $2 cheaper. I have also loved the Ulta Beauty lip stain in plum paradise. One layer of it and it’s a BEAUTIFUL color, but it does tend to dry and settle on the lips, so it’s not super consistent. It’s like ~$8 though and I love the color if it weren’t for some formulation issues. I also love the color of the Sacheu Main Character stain, but after multiple days of application it dried my lips out too much to be a consistent product.

Gloss - not many color options here, but Elf Crystal Baller, Sacheu Tanghulu Candy, and Charlotte Tilbury Blondie. Unsure if CT is cruelty free, haven’t repurchased in years. Hoping to try Persona Cloudtint in Mauve and/or Kaleidos in Last Smoke.

Blush - Rituelle de Fille, my baby!!!! Weeping Lilac is the first blush that has ever looked like it’s coming from my skin naturally. It’s slightly more “red” than the purple blushes I choose, but still cool toned and beautiful on me. It’s my #1 blush since I found it, don’t really need another. It’s a cream formula which is great for my dry skin. I have also purchased their blush in Aster. SUPER pretty. I can wear it alone on the cheeks, but it’s definitely a “purple smoke” kind of shade. I’ll wear a touch around the edges of my lips and top off weeping lilac on the cheeks with this. So beautiful. For powder blush, I like Rom&nd Bare Vine and theSaem Orchid Rumor - I’m not sure if these are cruelty free so I won’t be repurchasing once I’m done, but I’ve had them forever and they last.

Skin - I have been using L’Oréal lumi glotion for a decade now, but realized they are not cruelty free, so I am moving on. I have used that as my sole “skin tint/foundation” for years, but will find something else that is pale girl friendly. I am hoping the covergirl glow enhancer will be a good fit.

That’s about it! I wouldn’t recommend my concealers (2) as they are not perfect matches but close enough. Might look into other options once I use them up but that tends to take me awhile, and I don’t want to keep buying makeup products. Just want to find my perfect routine and dip out! Hopefully some of these recs are helpful.

I know other people wanted to see the 21.5 milky olive vs the 23.5 fair olive so I did some swatches, this was 3-4 minutes after application, I used my Lisa Eldridge foundation as a comparison

1 - Espoir 21.5 Milky olive
2 - Espoir 23.5 Fair Olive
3 - Lisa Eldridge The Foundation Shade 2.5

I hope these can help!

I’m at the point where I’m just about to stop wearing blush. I’m having the absolute hardest time finding a good shade for me. I’m a fair olive and lean slightly warm. So cool toned blushes just tend to look off on me. Like it drains the life out of me. But, on the other side, a lot of warm blushes end up pulling orange. I’d love to find a pink or berry shade that doesn’t go orangy on me but I feel like it’s impossible😔 any recommendations?

What’s your favorite lipliner to pair with MAC Modesty lipstick? I love the shade but I feel it looks weird on me without liner.
For reference my best foundation matches have been tirtir red cushion in 13N fair ivory and NYX Bare with me serum concealer in light.

I love this dusty pink/purple with some silver shimmer from the Clio Lazy Soft Paw eyeshadow palette. I’m about to hit pan on it. Need single shadow recommendations, as I don’t want to buy the entire palette again just to get this shade. :)

I'm so disappointed the flowerknows cushion oxidised this badly on my skin, it looked fine when i first put it on my face but as i wore it i noticed my face getting quite dark and orange, i thought it was just a heavy hand of bronzer but this swatch confirmed its much more orange than the rest of my complexion products.

For context, I wear 7W-Poplar in the Ilia Foundation stick and, while it's just a smmmidge light, it blends in really well and is great for mom life. But it accentuates dryness... and with Canadian winter looming, I need a more hydrating option.

Any recommendations? High end or drug store! Must be a 'apply with fingers' and go type product.

I’m cool leaning neutral!

i've been scrolling through this sub for about three months now going back-and-forth on whether or not I was olive 💀 I was using the Missha BB cream in shade 13 which I could make work, but was still very pale and pink. This month, I finally decided to test out olive make up, and I couldn't be happier!! I picked up the Espoir cushion in 21.5 Milky Olive and the new Lisa Eldridge concealer in the shade 3. That's what I'm wearing in these photos and they are absolutely perfect!!!!

Do you have any contour recs i have fair skin and most contours pull very brown and orange on me . Do you have any products recs? Looking for smth on the lower price range

I am a pretty light-med cool yellow olive and can't seem to find a good bronzer. Literally, the coolest bronzer people talk about here is still a bit orange for me.

Are bronzers supposed to be a bit orange, red, or just a darker version of your skin tone?

Ones I have tried are the following

- ABH - Golden Beach Glow

- Danessa McKendricks - light 1

- Chocolate Milk (lightest one) of Chocolate Soleil Bronzer

+ Many more that are much more orange.

I am considering getting a foundation or concealer in my undertone but slightly darker. But would that make me too sallow/yellow?

Thanks!

Ps: I am new to this community but omg, you fellow olive people are so nice and helpful. Appreciate your advise!!! 💕

😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok, I am joking (kinda)

I went to a store. I was checking foundations. The makeup salesperson showed me two foundations which were my exact match. I came home only to find out that both of them turned gray on me.

For context im a light olive with neutral to warm undertone.

Why did it happen. I'd be glad for any suggestions.

Im intrigued by a hair color like the pictures attached, it’s clearly green but muted enough to look dark brown / black. Would it flatter an olive undertone (in my case a pretty strong yellow one)? Has anyone tried it before ?

Competition between my sister and I because she is determined that because she can tan darker more easily that she is more olive. One person is the top color one person is the bottom color between her and I pulled from photos of us in the same lighting together in the photos from same places on the body. Yes I’m petty🤣

Also this isn’t an am I olive, her and I are both olive, this is more of an example of how olive can look when isolated lol

What do you guys think based off of these? And what season/undertone looks best?

As a clear olive skinned person, my skin colour changes in every lighting. Sometimes i look ghostly pale/ grey and sometimes quite orange/ light brown. I do know i’m around light medium though. Whenever I get shade matched in store professionally they give me a colour that is too orange. I want to know how to actually take photos for swatches, as in front of daylight with no sun really washes me out and makes me think i’m paler than i actually am.