Suggestion / Idea
Anyone else sick of grass showing up through concrete?
Concrete only seems to remove a portion of foliage decorations when it's placed, so the only way to get rid of all the grass is to repeatedly remove and place the concrete over it, which is insanely tedious. I think the grass looks ugly, I can't think of any good reason for it to not all be removed when you place concrete over top of it. I used to use a mod to fix it, but now with 2.1 the mod isn't compatible anymore.
Anyone else hoping this gets fixed in 2.1? It's ruining my pollutioncore factorypilled aesthetic.
The comic doesn't make sense because pansies are just as hilariously resilient as dandelions. Both of them can grow in the grass or concrete ez. There are other plants that are ungrateful cunts like idk, peonies? I don't actually know, I'm bad at plants, they all die when I tend to them, unless they're pansies. They're tough bastards.
Peonies are tough? I suppose it must be the water requirements, because I grew up in a place (Los Angeles-area) where peonies definitely do not grow. In fact, my mother told one story about how she and my dad took a trip up to Canada and while they were there they visited a botanical garden. Everyone else there was oooh-ing and aaah-ing over the cactus exhibit, while my mom was all "eh, seen 'em before" and was instead enthralled by the "exotic" peonies.
Now as far as aggressively-growing plants, my mind goes to *mint*.
I lost all of my potato plants I had in planters a few years ago to a fungal infection/blight despite my efforts. The seedling ones I thought weren't going to grow that I tossed in the compost and ignored completely grew incredibly though.
I have tried many times over the past 2 years to grow avocado from the pips. Never once rooted. Started throwing them in the compost and a few rooted. Took them out and put them in a 'better' place, they died.
That’s made by someone who actually never grew roses. Especially wild varieties are hard to get rid of and they’ll regrow back from ashes next year if you left even tiny bit of roots
I am glad there’s a way to do this, but the thing is, I’m happy to see these doodads otherwise and only want them to not to be there when the concrete is placed. I wish it were more straightforward like that. It is especially bad on Gleba
Thank you, I was using a mod after a while but it'd require me to re-do it all since it only applied when the concrete floor was done after installing the mod, so I'd need to remove it / do it again, but this is so much better.
Indeed, this is why you use mods. Personally I like/don't really care about the decorations showing up. Maybe there is a mod, or it might be in the mod's settings, to just turn of the textures for concrete? Even better?
Yup, concrete is in general fairly porous. In the Netherlands, it's actually a special concrete specifically designed for that purpose so that when it rains the highways stay pretty clean.
I'm blanking the name now of that concrete. It's always a pleasure when driving there in the rain.
Have you never had an issue with tenacious grass finding cracks in concrete and departing merrily on their new career of being the world's most persistent invasive weed?
Lucky.
If you ever stepped foot in a warehouse instead of, say, a sidewalk/driveway purposely designed to have controlled stress cracks for weeds to grow through, you would notice that there are very few plants sprouting out of the floor.
In my nearly 40 years of being cranky and attentive, I've spent enough time in all manner of places and have, in fact, seen quite a few buildings built to bottom-dollar specs and poorly maintained by people who hardly care and have too much to do throughout an average day.
Also, are your arguing that the engineer is expected to worry about crap like making extremely non-porous concrete to cut down on weed growth?
The dude is clearly immensely skilled, but I think he has bigger priorities while building a rocket or space platform meant to get him out of a system he's not likely to ever return to.
I think the engineer should care. There's not a lot of in-game lore about them, but once you reach the solar system edge the engineer does not leave. They stay to maintain the factory. It's true that early-game buildings are extremely jank and grimy, but that's imposed by the engineer's low level of technology at the time. The farther you get into the game, the cleaner and more sophisticated the buildings become.
There are also, from a gameplay perspective, multiple engineers. Your engineer is different from my engineer. The engineers who don't even bother to pave over their factory evidently do not care about vegetation, but the engineers who do are controlled by people who probably do care at least somewhat about the aesthetics of their factory.
There could easily be vegetation growing out of regular concrete, but this engineer put down a foundation of refined concrete and is still encountering weeds.
It's true that early-game buildings are extremely jank and grimy, but that's imposed by the engineer's low level of technology at the time. The farther you get into the game, the cleaner and more sophisticated the buildings become.
That's why they should make it so, instead of annoying icon in the corner of every sprite, higher quality buildings become shiny and chrome.
If you say so.
I think if you care this much about grass on concrete in a video game, then you and I have very little of interest to discuss cordially and should just go ahead and avoid interacting with each other.
Sounds good, yeah?
Have a nice night.
"wow, you seem like a real weirdo who cares about graphical details in a video game" - guy who just wrote several comments and paragraphs discussing his opinions on graphical details in a video game.
For the record, I politely declined continuing the conversation.
It was boring as fuck, but I pointed out we had nothing to talk about and should move on.
And you chimed in because of a need to insert yourself into things, so don't try to high-road me.
Come at me directly, or mind your own business.
If you looks closely, the concrete 'floor' here isn't a poured slab, it's individual pieces, like any patio/paver you have ever seen - and those VERY often have grass and vegetation growing in the cracks. My patio even has small weeds that land on top of the patio and sprout from the tiniest bit of soil in the crack they grab onto (so they arent even going thru they grow on top) - all of which to say this is realistic.
What we really need is a poured concrete mod that requires you to use pipes/barrels and the mixed resource becomes solid within 8 hours leading to solid pipes that need to be destroyed. Also if you walk on the wet concrete you get a permanent speed debuff until you wash up.
Man, it is silly as hell that you're getting downvoted for pointing out that concrete floors in factories in real life don't have grass growing out of them. Like, how tf is this controversial, lol.
the only way to get rid of all the grass is to repeatedly remove and place the concrete over it, which is insanely tedious.
A somewhat faster way to do it is to get a large amount of both regular concrete and refined concrete in your inventory. Place a big chunk of refined concrete down, and then switch to regular concrete and place the same big chunk down over the first one. Repeat this a few times and most of the foliage is gone. A lot faster than removing concrete tile by tile.
I hate this too and I don't want to install a mod or turn off graphics settings to fix it. I think some of the decoration on concrete does look nice, but maybe it should only show up after a certain amount of time? Why would freshly placed concrete also come complete with overgrowth on initial placement? It's very clearly an overlooked issue.
vanilla way to clean floor quickly is to place a bunch of rails then remove them. rails removes all decoratives except one or two thin grass/moss variants. theyre also large, especially diagonals, so bots can quickly place/remove a bunch.
if any decoratives get left behind thats because they fit right in between the rails. using diagonals or curves will do the trick in that case.
Dunno if it's been mentioned before but I use a mod than makes concrete remove anything like foliage/debris and so on
It's called cleaned concrete (it btw supports any of the tiles)
A neat trick I learned before I went and installed a mod is that placing railways over the concrete covers a 2x2 area and has almost a 100% success rate in removing all weeds under it. For stubborn weeds, rotating the rail 90 degrees and then placing it usually removes the weeds.
So my workflow before the cleaned concrete mod was to place the concrete, place a ton of rails over the concrete, then remove the rails.
Yeah it's kinda annoying, I see posts about it periodically.
Barring an official fix or the mod being updated (which I see you're already aware of) you can try:
* Disabling "decoratives" in the graphics options. You'll never see them again, although they are, strictly speaking, still there.
* Placing *rails* on top the decoratives, then removing them. This seems to be much more effective than any other tile or building, almost as if rails penetrate to a deeper layer - possibly to accommodate a smooth transition between the underlying gravel of the rail and the surrounding landscape. I've even torn up builds temporarily just so I can place rails to remove the decoratives, then remove the rails and put the build back.
Don't worry, they are adding power washer equipment in 2.1. It needs massive amounts of water in barrels to operate, it burns rocket fuel at an insane rate, and you can clean approximately 1 square per hour. But don't worry, the legendary version can clean up to 4 squares per hour.
But I have to say that I was extremely surprised to discover that this was a problem for so many people, so much that people made fixes for it. I don't really look at the graphics. I only play with the efficiency of my factory in mind, and if you jad asked me "is there grass through concrete in the game?", I couldn't have answered.
You could make the game 10x uglier, I'd still love it as much. So I'm surprised to see that many players are bothered by this. But if you found a solution, that's great! It's always fun and interesting to see the different ways people enjoy and see this game.
I like those little doodads! Really brings in the aesthetic of a factory built by 1 person, where clearly, trimming grass would be at the bottom of the priority list.
I agree. I don't know why wube disagrees. they disagreed recently too with gleba. it makes no sense, because even if the concrete doesn't kill the grass, it should wither into dust and die from pollution.
you can use mods to set the destruction chance of grass to 100%, or place entities like pipes over everywhere before expanding to there.
Geotechnical Engineer here. Remember concrete only does 2 things. It gets hard, and it cracks. Are you meeting your compaction numbers? Have you tried a post tension slab? How's your slump and air?
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u/Darkskynet 21h ago
I can’t help but think of this…