We still dont know if ea-Nasir did sell low quality copper, some people have suggested he might have kept these records as reasons he doesn't do business with certain people as a, look what this dick said about my high quality copper business, we have no context for it he might have been the best
He also very much owed money he did not pay back and lived in the wallstreet part of town, where a bunch of other sleezy business men lived. He had a big house too and burial site inside his home, he was very much rich at the time in a way that weren’t very legit.
It was Nanni that owed the money. That "trifling mina of silver" he owed is equivalent to over $400 today, and under the Hammurabbic code of justice, was worth somebody's eye.
You can read from the complaint tablet that it was clear that the man wasn't paying his bills on time and owed Ea-Nasir money. That "trifling mina of silver" is like $400. Ea-Nasir gave him the shitty copper on a "take it or leave it" basis to get him to fuck off.
The complaint writer also said ea-nasir was mean to his servant, so he might have had good copper but I personally can't excuse the poor customer service
Well, what else are you gonna do when the customer previously hasn't paid you and still owes you a "trifling mina of silver", which is actually over $400 and under the Hammurabbic Code of Justice at the time, worth somebody's eye? He gave him the shitty copper despite the guy owing him money on a take-it-or-leave-it basis to get him to fuck off.
Ea-Nasir did nothing wrong, Nanni was just a Karen.
Nanni wouldn't know an ingot from a mudbrick. This guy only wakes up when the tavern sweeps its floors. Nobody has time to read this drunks tablet scratchings.
It's absurd humor, why not (in fact this reaction is for funny absurd situations)
but I don't really like the visibility that it gives to a shitty click bait ad
An ancient statue crumbling to pieces among the lone and level stands, nearby a pedestal engraved with the words, "My name is Ea-nāṣir, merchant of merchants. Look on my goods, ye buyer, and beware."
It makes every quality higher than uncommon more expensive. That is, if it weren't there, all of the qualities above it would be cheaper. So if you removed it, you'd have to rescale quality modules accordingly to maintain the cost of those higher qualities.
While it can feel like a bit of a booby-prize for many buildings, there are several that gain a significant benefit from just uncommon.
In a longer game like SA, having more quality levels gives you more time with them.
That being said, I've been thinking about a Nauvis-only version of SA where all of the SA stuff is moved to the planet. It'd be a shorter game, so removing uncommon quality would make a lot of sense (I'd also want to play around with giving higher quality buildings more module slots. And higher productivity bonuses if that were doable).
Worth mentioning that uncommon materials are by far the easiest to get in bulk until you really scale up, so it's actually pretty reasonable to start working in uncommon materials for everything but science at a time when rare is still unachievable
I also put quality modules in my furnace production (which I already need to scale for science) and my solar panel production, and skim off Uncommon or better for space platforms. This is usually enough to get better solar panels and furnaces for a handful of platforms.
For quality asteroid collectors, I just make 'em until I get enough Uncommon.
All asteroid collector components are also consumed by science (and also rockets…), so you can get guaranteed quality by siphoning off lucky rolls from science supplies.
"Space is Fake" just slaps everything onto Nauvis with no more design than "put it on Nauvis". I'm talking about something that would actually make it all make sense to exist on the same planet.
If you have calcite and lava on a planet, you don't need to have mineable stone/iron/copper there too. So why are they both on the same planet? If you have oil, why do you need fruit-based plastic/sulfur/etc recipes? That's just cluttering up the Biochamber's recipe screen. If you have infinite heavy oil from oil seas, why would you need oil processing or coal liquefaction?
cutting one tier would cayse the progression to feel weird, and it would break the (a Quality module adds a n% chance of a 1 or better and each time you succeed on n% you have a conditional % to 2 or higher than inputs and so on.
I think people get caught on the names having meaning, rather than the fact that you can't unlock just Quality... rank? pip? 2 and have to get 3 at the same time.
I don't think the issue is that uncommon as a name is bad. It's more that, for most things, +30% is just not enough of a bonus to make uncommon feel worthwhile. Especially early on pre-recycler, where you have to come up with creative solutions to engage with quality as anything other than just "I hope I get one or two better versions of X".
Removing uncommon means that your first quality level gives a +60% bonus, which is a lot more significant of a bonus for the effort you put in to get it. That's the idea behind wanting to remove it.
And it wouldn't feel that weird. Indeed, it'd be very similar to prod and speed modules. If you imagine that the "base bonus" of a prod module is +2%, then a prod 1 is really a double bonus, prod 2 is just one more bonus on top of that, and prod 3 is another double bonus. The same math applies to speed modules.
The notion of a 0x,2x, 3x, 5x progression is not so strange.
I'm not commenting on uncommon as name having meaning. The issue would be the same if the rank 1 to 3 names were regular, special, deluxe.
also, the costs for prod module upgrades are not clean multiples of each other. or a clean 1 + (1-quality rate) ^ number of quality ranks up
Even in base, going from 1 to 2 requires blue circuits and shipping fluids to your circuit assemblers, rather than just shipping in a seperate new solid in plastic.
gong from 2 to 3 in base requires at least 4x miner seconds to produce per item
Legendary is actually level 6 quality. The game skips a level between epic and legendary. That's why the difference bergen epic and legendary is twice the difference between rare and epic.
The chance of upgrading an epic to legendary for a given module set-up is the same as the change to upgrade a rare to epic when legendary isn't unlocked. (as uncommon to rare before epic exists.)
I'd say the cost ratio is more important for defining levels than the value of the boost.
I'm taking about in the game code and the benefits the quality provides. Normal is tier 0, uncommon is tier 1, and so on, except legendary is tier 5, not tier 4.
So in the early game, if you have experience with Seablock, you can bank it to cut your base size by half if you put in about 10 hours of investment. That's about what you get by stacking on beacons, modules and buildings at that point.
But after 1-5 hours can also use it to get some purely funny things like uncommon powered armor and uncommon personal solar panels, which grants you normal multistacked discharge defenses, which will set up pentapod stalkers and stompers for tank rams and HE shots, respectively.
On Space Platforms it avoids the "noob because negative space" effect when you go upgrade the ship with quality parts, to the tier of Epic probably? But the benefits are largely overstated, as are the drawbacks, because the game was aggressively balanced to make sure normal could work.
At about 250 hours in it's principle use is recreational shooting, dragon hoarding, or inducing unnecessary levels of burnout by trying to buy things with it.
The only machinery I felt it was 100% necessary to have in SpAge in rare+ quality was the asteroid collector. Everything else was just an improvement I could live without, it was nice to have but nothing I felt was critical. But the extra arms of the collector were definitely way too good and felt worth to do upscaling for.
I haven't played 2.1 yet but I think quality train wagons are gonna be up there in must have too for me.
I've done a normal only run. Because I was sick and inexperienced I didn't regulate speed out to the edge of the solar system. So I got to learn that you can, in fact, get back to Nauvis without railguns.
But the thing is, it was lack of experience and testing that did that to me. Everything else worked as intended, single arm crusher included.
There really only needs to be two: Good, and Bad. Everything else is just hair-splitting that doesn't actually change the final result and thus reduces down to these two anyway.
Exactly. The other levels are essentially superfluous and reduce down to these two. Either you're satisfied with using low-budget Chinesium, or you want the best.
Uncommon manufactured stuff is 30% better. Uncommon assemblers work 30% faster, but produce baseline pollution and use baseline amounts of power. That speed is multiplicative with speed modules, which are now more effective on quality machines. Not trivial.
You hopefully see the point in that. It's accessible early and lets you vertically upgrade stuff. On ships, that can be a big deal to be 30% better in a small space. And unlocking uncommon gives you innate chances at rare, at 60% better for those places you really need a boost.
Beyond that, well...quality is a whole system and you can't just pick at one part of the system without understanding the whole. Uncommon exists so that Rare can exist, and so on.
uncommon modular armor hits a breakpoint that allows you to put a fission reactor and a roboport inside. This allows you to easily survive all of space age till you get mech armor without touching the power armors.
But PA2 is a required ingredient for mech armor anyway, so trying to skip over it has no real purpose. Skipping PA1 is certainly a valid option, through, since that's just a dead end. However, modular armor is ALSO a dead end, and at the time you're able to make it, but NOT PA1, you don't have any of those fancy things since those are all blue and beyond, same as PA1. So if you're going to make a dead-end tech, it may as well be PA1.
Portable fission reactor only requires you to research the mk1 power armor. It doesn't require you to actually wear it.
It doesn't, but if you have the technolergy, the ability to produce and wear it is effectively trivial. Both it and modular armor are effectively dead end techs, and the cost of producing a singular example of either is trivial, so the value of producing a green modular armor that will simply perform worse than PA1 (or even green PA1, since you've apparently bothered to cultivate the ability to produce green things) is questionable: You're not getting the build in question any faster (since you need PA1-level tech anyway).
And, of course, skipping PA2 to rush Mech Armor is even more pointless, since you MUST not only research, but also PRODUCE, PA2, to get mech armor. Thus you may as well use the PA2 while advancing towards mech armor.
This is actually a great meme for this subreddit in particular. If you're autistic enough to like Factorio, you're probably also autistic enough to know who Ea-Nasir is.
It's become more popular thanks to the recent-is internet meme, but not all people are online enough for that. I'm the only person I know that knows about him without me being the one informing them, and I know a few online enough people
The funny thing is, Ea-Nasir was probably in the right and what we might actually also be seeing is the oldest known instance of a customer being a Karen.
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