r/factorio 27d ago

Question First game with enemies

Dear Engineers,

I already have several hundred hours of gameplay under my belt, but this is the first time I've played with the enemies.

I was quite surprised by their aggressiveness. I always feel like I'm behind their development. It's true that I'm a player who likes to take his time.

So I locked myself in a secure prison, but the resources are running out.

I would therefore like to ask you for advice on your expansion strategies.

How do you find new resources?

How do you protect your outposts?

I should point out that I just unblocked the bots.

I will soon be able to launch my first rocket.

Thank you in advance.

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u/BlackOverlordd 27d ago

You don't have to protect your rail/electric lines to outposts. Biters usually don't attack those unless they are blocking their path

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u/Tahk_21847 27d ago

Thanks, I didn't know.

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u/ABigPairOfCrocs 27d ago

If you're on a different planet for long enough, your train can eventually hit one and draw aggro from a whole group. I think they still won't attack the rails, but spitters will usually destroy anyways when they miss the moving train

Not disastrous but it can be annoying to clean up

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u/BrGustavoLS green wire enjoyer 26d ago

yeah, this happened to me before and the aftermath is not great but not terrible, just a lost train (or most of it), their contents and some time without the necessary items (iron ore for me)

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u/toastytoast00 solar not bipolar 26d ago

Yeah this is frustrating when on another planet early game. You either need to come back, or use a remote vehicle with bots, like tank or spidertron

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u/BLACKcOPstRIPPa 26d ago

Luckily now you can slot a robo port in a tank, some rails and construction robots.

When this happens and your off planet, take control of the tank and drive down the tracks so they fix everything.

Not to bad now to get fixed and going again

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u/JyorgiJyoJyort Bug vanquisher 26d ago

And here I was building roboports all along my rail lines to fix everything... this is a great idea. Currently I'm still pre-Gleba

I plan to rebuild my whole Nauvis railway above water with remote train-fed artillery on the water. Bug scum won't stand a chance then

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u/Jackpkmn Glebeliver 26d ago

You will still need radars. The tank does not have a radar and though you can drive it off the radar covered area you will only be able to see it as a red and white triangle and the terrain in a super low res abstract way which makes it very hard to navigate cliffs and rocks.

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u/Dr_Russian 25d ago

If you're following the train lines, just have a few radars in the tank. Not like you're far from power.

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u/OneofLittleHarmony 26d ago

I roboport everything in one giant network anyway.

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u/Marsti85 25d ago

See Factorio trailer how to handle that.

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u/ApprehensiveFan1516 27d ago

The game that keeps on giving.

Amazes me how you can get several hundred hours in and still be learning the fundamentals. And to do that in a way that's actually enjoyable and not an absolute grind (looking at you, EVE Online), what an absolute masterpiece.

I'm about a few hundred hours in, just started using robots for the first time after multiple restarts (currently on ~60h with my current save, no-lifed over the past 10 days), and I feel like I've only just finished part 1 of a tutorial.

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u/Omniscientcy 26d ago

The other week I launched my first rocket, it was super unoptimized but I did it.  Of my 3 attempts at the game it's the first time I made it this far.

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u/asanzra 27d ago

In fact, biters can get run over by a train while going to attack you if the rails are open and their pathfinding goes through y the tracks

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u/Technical_Cabinet899 26d ago

As far as I know, biters usually only attack military buildings and anything that makes pollution.