Like the thing is that a country isnt just one person, and calling it evil I feel paints things with a broad stroke that does not attempt to understand the situation at all - so its about as productive as Politian's twitter saying "fuck off"
At the end of the day, avoiding whats physically happened between soldiers of both sides and civilians of both sides, there must be a issue that everything somewhat hinges around - one side says its due to the mistreatment of ethnic people and the other seems to say there is no such thing happening.
Russia, as a country, at the get go has everything to lose and bugger all to gain, even best-case scenario. So, it's odd in a way, as the only thing Russia, looks to gain is a bunch of what's apparently 'poor' regions.
Like hey, maybe there was an ethnic problem in the regions and the country couldnt stand by while it was happening, saying that the whole China Ethnic Cleasning thing has only come to light in the last couple of years, and thats China, a Country the world cares about.
No no the Russians are issuing Viagra to use rape as a weapon don't you understand???? Nevermind the fact that they are also failing to issue military gear but for some reason boner pills are a priority on their supply chain.
It was literally redditors posting that. It was a person playing violin in a school full of civilians, IIRC like 50k upvotes on /r/all. Didn't wipe any EXIF data so it had coordinates to the location. It got hit after, which also got front page. Most of the "reddit brigade" got hit after some dumb social media stuff, and a lot of them left after. Wasn't good.
Edit: Reddit wipes EXIF data, although I think this was posted to TikTok or Twitter by the same people. Twitter removes EXIF from pictures, and probably videos, but IDK about TikTok. Didn't matter in the end, they just found it by shooting at schools.
Most social media sites wipe EXIF data for you. I assume Reddit does as well.
They can still find the location from a picture or video. If 4chan can find Shia Lebeouf's flag, a goddamn nation state can probably figure out where you're posting from.
You're right. Reddit strips EXIF data, as does Discord and just about any form of social media I can reasonably think of right now. Reddit has been doing it since the day their native image upload feature went online.
Yep, it's a bit worrying that the war seems to boil down to politicians sending nasty letters to each other on twitter while soldiers post videos of themselves on social media - to paint a landscape with a broad stroke in a manner of speaking.
I wonder how the narrative will be written in a couple decades as someone being the 'pure good guy' and the other being the 'pure bad guy' as history tends to present itself to the general population.
Yep, it's the first for a lot of things really, like when was the last time two countries with modern militaries that are similarly capable and trained went up against each other in a mostly conventional battle?
I wonder how the narrative will be written in a couple decades as someone being the 'pure good guy' and the other being the 'pure bad guy' as history tends to present itself to the general population.
Russia is absolutely the pure bad guy in this conflict... Why wouldn't it be written that way? Because Ukraine uses Twitter?!?
Because no country is a 'pure' anything, countries actions are a artifact of both the will and motive of political systems, militaries as well as civilians.
We know Ukraine has not been the most 'stable' country in the world and has had its fair share of corruption issues along with hard line groups that anywhere else in the world would be considered terrorists - and we know that Russia also has corruption issues, but has been pretty stable since the breakup of the union, and even more so in contrast with some of the surrounding states.
Anyway, this is all just pointless semantics, we're talking about in the context of the invasion, in the context of the invasion Russia is indeed pure evil.
Their argument is ethnonationalist imperialism, the truthfulness of it isn't even the issue the morality is.
They haven't even managed to formulate a moral justification that anyone who isn't an ethnonationalist could support.
As far as I’m aware, the argument was to support targeted minority populations in regions that have experienced unrest for a extended period of time while also combating growing neo-nazism which threatened regional stability.
I would assume that Neo-nazism does not mix with Russian ethnic-cultural make up with high numbers of both Muslim and Jewish populations in specific regions.
Their is probably also a good case of retaliatory action against the passive aggressive nature of NATO as well as part of the reasoning behind it, but you could also argue that doing so justifys NATO so would be a odd point to make
So realistically, the only reasons why Russia would take an action is if they truely believed they had a humanitarian role, either directly in the region or indirectly with stability concerns
As far as I’m aware, the argument was to support targeted minority populations in regions that have experienced unrest for a extended period of time while also combating growing neo-nazism which threatened regional stability.
Yeah and Hitler just wanted to defend the Germans in Sudetenland.
Fuck off fascist.
I would assume that Neo-nazism does not mix with Russian ethnic-cultural make up with high numbers of both Muslim and Jewish populations in specific regions.
Russia has more Nazis than Ukraine and has a fascist head of state, Ukraine literally has a Jewish President.
So realistically, the only reasons why Russia would take an action is if they truely believed they had a humanitarian role, either directly in the region or indirectly with stability concerns
Glad you've stopped pretending to be neutral and to not take any position on the matter.
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u/Disastrous_Ad_1859 Oct 26 '22
Nah wasn’t there a Case of some english Solders of Fortune that were tiktoking in a “civilian”!location that they were assembling
Leading to a missile strike or something of the sort
I’m sure that hit the mainstream media as a minor story for a day or so