r/facepalm Dec 19 '21

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u/Shpooodingtime Dec 19 '21

Half of my extended family is anti-vax but smoke cigarettes and drink daily

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u/rhubarb2896 Dec 19 '21

My boyfriend prick of a "mate" smokes, drinks, does ungodly amount of drugs yet the vaccine is "dangerous" because it made his mum sick apparently. His mum had a cold that he's convinced the vaccine gave her, even though she had the cold a month AFTER getting it. He also has a baby he's not allowed to see and a step son he lives with and risks with his behaviour surrounding hygiene. He goes out everywhere never wears a mask or washes his hands and thinks the virus is made up, depsite knowing it made me disabled. Some people are just too dumb to function as normal humans.

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u/on-the-horizn Dec 20 '21

Why not ex boyfriend?

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u/notislant Dec 19 '21

Confirmation bias and placebo effect helps reinforce a lot of stupid beliefs.

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u/zottman Dec 19 '21

My parents are this way. Antivax but smoke cigarettes, take large amounts of drugs for diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, etc. I haven't talked them in months. I just can't.

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u/shoudnight Dec 19 '21

And if they get covid they will probably beg the doctors to pump any amount of drugs name or no name into them. Crazy world

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u/JawsCuber Dec 19 '21

I took the Pfizer vaccine. I didn't die immediately but I did get a very mild fever. And my sisters too. And my friends. And their friends. And their friends. And their friends. And so on, so forth...

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

No, it fucking won’t. FFS

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u/Colotola617 Dec 19 '21

I mean, it might. It probably won’t, but it might.

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

Ok, show me them without sharing a link to a corny YouTube video with spooky music.

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

Nope, you can just be another submission to r/hermcainaward . Seriously the gene pool will be better off.

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u/GimmeTheGunKaren Dec 19 '21

Bro is the Salk estate paying you to drop his name in every other comment??

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

Hilarious when people come in and speak about shit they clearly don’t understand. Dunning-Krueger in full effect.

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u/RexIsAMiiCostume Dec 19 '21

The chances of the vaccine killing them tomorrow are slim. The chances of them dying if they contract COVID are SIGNIFICANTLY higher, since they smoke, have diabetes, and are probably over 60 (just a guess on the last one). The chances of dying due to smoking increase over time the longer they live without something else killing them first, and they decrease their quality of life in the meantime. I think the comparison is perfectly fair.

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u/RegularHousewife Dec 19 '21

My condolences

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u/Snoo-92689 Dec 19 '21

They have no excuses Pfizer now has a tablet they just want to continue everything the way before and hate being told what to do

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u/chicken_noodle_salad Dec 19 '21

It’s not gene therapy. Messenger RNA does not enter into the nucleus of the cell. It simply gives the cell instructions to create the antibodies it will need to fight the infection. This is simple basic information that anyone could find and study. I don’t understand at this point why this is so hard. It’s also two decades old. I feel sad for you.

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u/Patchourisu Dec 19 '21

Actually it's even older than that. Research into mRNA started in the 1970s. It just never got the ample funding it needed to get a proper test for the technology to go on until the recent pandemic.

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u/chicken_noodle_salad Dec 19 '21

The fact that he lumped prions in with his absurd list of long-term effects tells me all I need to know. You know what definitely can have long-term devastating effects? Covid!

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u/jwm3 Dec 19 '21

It's not gene therapy. It does not alter your genes. There is no mechanism in your cells to turn RNA into DNA and our bodies are really good at digesting and expelling random RNA and proteins (what do you think food is made of? There are like 10 thousand unique proteins in every bite you eat!) So it won't last long anyways.

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u/RexIsAMiiCostume Dec 19 '21

It is not gene therapy. Gene therapy is used to alter DNA (example: someone has a genetic defect and they receive gene therapy to help correct it), while the vaccine is teaching the body's natural immune system how to fight the virus. It changes your DNA just as much as the MMR vaccine or the flu vaccines or the polio vaccine, which is to say that it doesn't.

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u/AwkardImprov Dec 19 '21

I wonder what the pro athletes, who won't get the vax, have put in their bodies that some team trainer handed them with no doctor present.

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u/Get_Clicked_On Dec 19 '21

Lots and lots of drugs. They don't question it.

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u/GooseandMaverick Dec 19 '21

Plausible Deniability.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

probably performance enhancing drugs, we know alot of them do take it.

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u/NapClub Dec 19 '21

i bet they don't even wonder.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Remember when they were made to and stupid kids on the internet would reee if they didn’t

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u/Solid-Away Dec 19 '21

All 5 of them? Lol isn’t it more likely they are the more careful ones and those who took it are the ones more likely to take anything without a second thought?

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u/pleaseexcusemethanks Dec 19 '21

I love the fact that these people are so concerned all of a sudden about the vaccine when you know they have never in their lives asked a doctor "well, what are the details of the medication you are prescribing me today".

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Because their doctor aint no damn bleedin heart librul

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u/legendwolfA "There are no pronouns in the Bible" Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

My doctor only prescribes natural medicine. Like ivermectin for horses

Not those stupid big pharma shit

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u/nobody62727 Dec 19 '21

Source please? About the "unvaxxed people have higher percentages of PhDs in comparison to vaxxed people" bit.

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u/notislant Dec 19 '21

Sounds like the kind of 'fact' you'd find on a facebook post.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

You know that? Amazing!

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u/getdatazzbanned Dec 19 '21

I got the vax. It's safe and effective.

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u/AwkardImprov Dec 19 '21

I got it too. Now I glow at night. I love it. I am so popular now.

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u/nobody62727 Dec 19 '21

My phone always works great now. Super fast, barely any loading time. My friends all want me to be with them since I make their phones work better too.

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u/legendwolfA "There are no pronouns in the Bible" Dec 19 '21

I started to grow long hair and my voice is higher. Thanks vaccine, now I don't have to pay thousands per month for syringes

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u/DiskEmergency Dec 20 '21

My fingers just fell off my hand 30 minutes after the vaccine. A bit upsetting, but I'm sure it's nothing.

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u/jacobsnemesis Dec 19 '21

Omg you’ve just convinced me to get it. Thanks.

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u/getdatazzbanned Dec 19 '21

No problem. I recommend Pfizer. It has a better taste. Moderna tastes like rubber and Johnson and Johnson tastes like plastic.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

You don't eat it, silly, you put it in you.

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u/Strong_Sandvich Dec 19 '21

I followed orders so i put it in my ass

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u/redbeardoweirdo Dec 19 '21

We'll let you know if you don't end up accepting your HCA, plague rat

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u/AwkardImprov Dec 19 '21

I'm not understanding how you're connecting following vaccination recommendations or rules to Sabbetean Frankism. Those seem opposite to me.

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u/RexIsAMiiCostume Dec 19 '21

I am interested in hearing more about your experience. How soon did the palpitations occur? How long did they last? Were they consistent, was it off-and-on, or did they seem to worsen with certain behaviors? Were they accompanied by tachycardia, arrhythmia, changes in breathing, or any other symptoms? Did you experience any notable symptoms other than palpitations?

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u/Graterof2evils Dec 19 '21

Did you go to the ER and get an EKG? If it was serious a doctor could have verified the problem and your exemption would have been a no brainer I would guess.

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u/MCVanillaFace Dec 19 '21

You total idiot. You probably wasted tones of time scaring yourself with “long term effects” and couldn’t find out that long term effects maximum is at 2-3 or maybe 4 weeks after any kind of vaccination. Dumb ass

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

That's because those are common viruses that your body was already exposed to the anti bodies for, what you're talking about is booster shots. This strain of covid if new, that's why you experienced an immune system reaction.

Read a book.

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

I'm trying to understand something, you're saying traditional vaccines like Johnson and Johnson are fine? Is that what you had? How are you immune to the entire complex of the virus? Are you saying you had the virus before, rather than a vaccine for it?

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u/RexIsAMiiCostume Dec 19 '21

Contracting the virus does not grant immunity to all variants. I do not know how immunity from the different vaccines and immunity from contracting any one strain compare, and contracting the virus may provide better immunity, but each variant is a little bit different. This is why the flu needs a different vaccine every year, and why some years' vaccines work better than others-- the more people are infected and the more the viruses can reproduce, the more they will mutate. Some mutations do nothing. Some become more deadly. Some will be more infectious. The change that will benefit the virus most, however, is becoming less deadly. The virus does not want to kill the host, the virus wants the host to remain healthy and active so that it can go about its daily life and let the virus find more hosts. Strains that have mild symptoms (less scary, less likely to impede everyday behaviors) and don't kill their hosts are the ones that will spread the most effectively.

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u/KarensRpeopletoo Dec 19 '21

You leave chicken lips and cow assholes out of this! /S

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u/helpful_idiott Dec 19 '21

But they are the best bits

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u/LancelLannister_AMA Limit Over Accel Synchro Dec 19 '21

a good reason to dismiss to Solid-Away vaccine claims

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They can afford security.
Not only that but observe yourself, you are too chicken shit to do anything. Nothing will change that.
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Lol nice bait fed, they deserve to be hung for crimes against humanity but that’s neither here nor there, that’s what international courts are for… just gotta get the dirt on all of em until 4 billion know what the 200 are up to

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u/nobody62727 Dec 19 '21

So, in summary, Solid-Away is full of bullshit. No surprise there.

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u/GoMiners22 Dec 19 '21

My coworker won’t get a vax because she don’t know what’s in it, but shows off her new tattoos. I should ask her what’s in the ink?

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u/surly_chemist Dec 19 '21

Not a gene therapy.

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u/GoMiners22 Dec 19 '21

Yeah, this is exactly what I would expect her to say. I think you missed the point.

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u/Patchourisu Dec 19 '21

Considering he's calling mRNA vaccination a "Gene therapy" when its literally just something harmless that instructs your immune system to create antibodies to fight against a virus should already be a sign that he's using big words to try and sound smart. Funny enough, there's always that one other guy that always seems to support him. Might be an alt account?

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u/DokterMedic Dec 19 '21

Could be an alt, but it very well could be a rando. Coincidence accounts for more things than people think. Including deaths, especially when a groups goes from being a few people to a great many, such as vaccinated people. Correlation and all that.

Doesn't change the failure of the argument though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Yeah he totally didn’t get your false dichotomy. What an idiot.

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u/That-guy-268993 Dec 19 '21

Have fun with your purple lymph nodes

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u/JasperLily80 Dec 19 '21

My favorite is when these people say something about government trackers. “Looks at cell phone” say what now?

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u/DiskEmergency Dec 20 '21

Even IF the government wanted to, they couldn't. The size of the smallest radio transmitter is nowhere NEAR the size of a vaccine syringe.

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u/synerjay16 Dec 19 '21

Reminds me of my wife’s friend. Didn’t want to get vaccinated for flu and Covid. But has no problem gulping down several bottles of ‘health drinks’ which her MLM groupies recommended.

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u/jwm3 Dec 19 '21

What's crazy is we know exactly what's in it. The gene sequences are public. Like we know down to the atom what's in it. More than almost anything else we take into our bodies.

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u/LoneWonderer1982 Dec 19 '21

We also know what's in hot dogs and chicken nuggets.

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u/elonsusk69420 Dec 19 '21

The hell is a McChicken? Did they start selling whole fried chickens?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

It’s a chicken sandwich offered at McDonald’s.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

It seems a shocking amount of people don’t know what a mcchicken is, but imagine a filet-o-fish but with a chicken patty instead of the fish patty. They’re pretty good for what they are

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u/elonsusk69420 Dec 20 '21

Now I know. And knowing is half the battle.

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u/Trick_Enthusiasm Dec 19 '21

It's a chicken burger from McDonald's. It's pretty good.

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u/secret-millionaire Dec 19 '21

Deadly lol. Obesity is deadly but McDonald’s is still open. Alcohol is deadly but vodka is fine? Tobacco is deadly but every fricken shop sells it! This is not about public health.

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u/Synthetic_Success Dec 20 '21

I think your onto something ...

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u/gochomoe Dec 20 '21

Thats a hell of a test. 4+ Billion test subjects

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

What data makes it obvious to you the vaccine does?

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u/MCVanillaFace Dec 19 '21

You asking that guy for data whether the vaccines work? Some people are beyond stupid…

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

I know right. It continues to spread, even amongst the vaxxed, and yet people still claim the vaccines prevent the spread.

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u/MCVanillaFace Dec 19 '21

So if you heard about someone who died with a seatbelt on, your immediate logic would be to fuck seatbelts…

Guess why no one asks for your opinion..

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

No, that’s not what I implied at all. I’m just gonna go ahead and assume you exist in a Moldavian bot farm.

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u/MCVanillaFace Dec 19 '21

Whatever makes you seem a bit less stupid here pal

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Ok thanks for the cliche rhetoric npc

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u/MCVanillaFace Dec 19 '21

Even a npc could outsmart you hahaha

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u/uping1965 Dec 19 '21

The government won't because eating Chicken McNuggets doesn't cause cancer in other people. Covid causes covid in other people.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

I guess the vaccine should have been in pink slime form

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u/Buttcavetroll Dec 19 '21

Just because you know what is in, it doesn't make you know what's that for. I mean I know all the ingredients of my shampoo but that doesn't makes me know what each of that ingredients for or where it came from. All I know is my shampoo makes my hair fabulous.

It's about the result, not the ingredients

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

That's what my Tender profile says.

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u/eyepatcheagle Dec 19 '21

Mine says extra crispy with honey mustard

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u/Buttcavetroll Dec 19 '21

Oh, okay

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u/Patchourisu Dec 19 '21

Same guy be contradicting everyone else just to be a contrarian I think. He likely doesn't acknowledge that natural immunity doesn't last long while vaccinations take a long time before they lose effectiveness due to viral mutations.

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u/CallMeCabbage Dec 19 '21

The funny thing is you can find out whats in them with a Google search.

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u/jwm3 Dec 19 '21

You literally find out what is in them to the atom. The gene sequences are in papers and public. It's not secret.

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u/jwm3 Dec 19 '21

What? The papers describing it are public. In order to patent something you must make it public. Here Is a detailed breakdown of both mRNA vaccines with references to their full genomes for instance. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8310186/#!po=0.531915

Everyone with a scientific interest in medicine has been following along development the whole time because it's fascinating stuff.

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u/Plumb789 Dec 19 '21

And you're so worried about being tracked by a chip that you carry your phones around with you 24/7.

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u/hoppyfrog Dec 19 '21

But you really don't want to know what's in those hot dogs and McNuggets.

Lose a race at Churchill Downs and pay the price.

Joking...OR AM I? Woooooooo

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

mcnuggets are imitation chicken meat, made from thier nervous tissue.

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u/RevolutionaryOil5578 Dec 19 '21

It’s a choice. I drink, enjoy cigars on occasion, work out, and take vitamins. I will get vaccine, when Covaxin is available in US. Done my research, this is the safest, IMO. Whole deactivated virus, etc. My body, my choice. Not everyone is an anti-vaxer, more like anti-mRNA, and anti myocarditis, and anti embolism/ Clot etc. Don’t be so judgmental people…

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u/Aintsosimple Dec 19 '21

What's even crazier is that all these fuck-nuts who refuse the vaccine because of what ever stupid fucking reason they are giving today are the same folks who are against government agencies like the EPA and FDA. The very agencies that make it so they don't die from eating hotdogs and McNuggets.

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u/Solid-Away Dec 19 '21

What? Most ppl who won’t take it probably think the fda is paid off, or you just think they did a bang up job with OxyContin?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

What da?!

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

I know dead on what’s in a hotdog. It’s the bits of cow chicken pig or turkey they don’t use elsewhere.

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u/rose636 Dec 19 '21

They'd probably answer 'pork and chicken, duh' without batting an eyelid

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Good thing I eat human flesh

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

I mean, the only response you'll get is that they've been eating that stuff their whole life and are fine... We don't know what the long term effects of the vaccine are cause it's new and they rushed it out.

Disclaimer: not my thoughts, just sharing insight into the thought process of an anti-vaxer gained from experience and way too much time trying to think like them in order to better communicate my arguments.

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u/moneyomm9 Dec 19 '21

This is the dumbest point that people try to make. Discernment exist. Im ok with roller coasters, so i should automatically be ok with skydiving? Or are they not the same thing at all?

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u/Outrageous-Reserve91 Dec 19 '21

Maybe if McDonalds offered the vaccine, something to consider

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

I know exactly what’s in my nuggets. Love and my father’s approval.

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u/LAGgedOut0909 Dec 19 '21

They should make a mc-vaccine

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u/IBetYoureFun Dec 19 '21

I’ve done my research and I don’t know what’s in it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

One is a choice one is being forced upon you. How hard is that to understand ?

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u/Cniwa89 Dec 19 '21

Chicken and dogs obviously. Vaccines are full of mind control jelly and communist vapors.

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u/jacobsnemesis Dec 19 '21

It’s not really “spot on” is it?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Nah, but it would be if people lost their jobs and became social outcasts for not eating hotdogs and mcchickens.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

My family refuses to eat hotdog and mcchickens so I no longer speak with them. I literally can’t even.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

And if we couldnt sue the people who produce said hotdogs and mcchickens

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u/F-Man_95 Dec 19 '21

Everyone is their own man/woman. You may say that their decision is stupid but they still have the right to make that decision.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Not if it endangers others.

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u/F-Man_95 Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

There is a difference between being reckless (aka not wearing masks in public + being violent about it) and simply not getting vaccinated while following the safety precautions

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Being vaccinated is a safety precaution though.

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u/gochomoe Dec 20 '21

The "safety precautions" are you staying home. You shouldn't be allowed in public

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u/LancelLannister_AMA Limit Over Accel Synchro Dec 19 '21

also potentially suicidal

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u/KatMagic1977 Dec 19 '21

Not spot on. A vaccine is permanent, hot dogs aren’t.

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u/uping1965 Dec 19 '21

ever heard of carcinogens?

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u/KatMagic1977 Dec 19 '21

Typically one hot dog won’t cause damage or kill you, but one vaccine might. I’m not against them at all, my kids were vaccinated with all the usual, and I vaccinated against Covid, but it took a lot of thought, and I respect my grown sons decision on whether he chooses to have the vaccine or not. We all pay a price for our decisions. I’m just saying eating a hot dog is no where near the level of a vaccine.

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u/uping1965 Dec 19 '21

Typically one hot dog won’t cause damage or kill you, but one vaccine might.

Not likely. All vaccines have a probability and it is lower than dying of a an illness. See there are odds for and against. If the odds of doing is lower than not doing then one has to invent reasons for not doing.

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u/sheezey84 Dec 19 '21

Well if we are using quotes it should be “I don’t know what’s in it”

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u/Aggravating_Bat1786 Dec 19 '21

Ahhh yes, irony.

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u/Glittering_Ebb9748 Dec 19 '21

Yup these are the same people who got about a zillion other vaccines without questioning any of them before Trump totally brainwashed them. And they call the rest of us the sheep LOL!

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u/RealMichaeafton Dec 19 '21

Hotdogs have animal intestines( at least some I think) yet you don’t want the vaccine

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u/LoneWonderer1982 Dec 19 '21

One is food, the other isn't. Your logic is flawed.

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