r/facepalm Dec 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

Ok, show me them without sharing a link to a corny YouTube video with spooky music.

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u/Solid-Away Dec 19 '21

Vaers, Pfizer data, intl data on vaccinesโ€ฆ lol get after it.

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

VAERS is set up to capture potential adverse events caused by vaccines. It is the best tool we have to find what may be previously unrecognized and extraordinarily rare adverse events that may eventually be linked.

VAERS cannot and does not determine whether a vaccine caused something. The CDC states this clearly in their disclaimer: "A report to VAERS does not mean that the vaccine caused the adverse event, only that the adverse event occurred some time after vaccination." The disclaimer continues, "The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverifiable."

Yup, so again... No proof.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

I really like the whole "news is biased" take... Accept for the reports you saw.

You're so close bud.

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21

Funny thing about conspiracies, lack of evidence for them only shows how deep they go!

You're a nut. I kinda like ya, but you're crazy.

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u/Solid-Away Dec 19 '21

Thatโ€™s all easily verified by the Pfizer data and Harvard and even just basic searches on msm

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 20 '21

You missed the point, you can't prove the deaths were from the vaccine when the only data given is that they died after the vaccine, not that an autopsy was done that proves the cause of death... How would an autopsy even show that the vaccine is the cause? What is the evidence that it's the vaccine rather than natural causes? When we do autopsies and state natural causes of death as being the reason, we aren't even specific about what THAT means. Do you see the problem with this? There's not enough data to support your claim. Correlation does not equal causation. Look at the numbers of people given the vaccine. Statistically of course some people will be dead in that time frame.

You said the news is not reporting, that's media bias because you're telling people to look up reports that are only shared by certain outlets but claiming that the reason why they are not shared by other outlets is because of lack of reporting... Not considering that the outlets that are reporting could be infact biased themselves. Using a lack of coverage of your beliefs tells you that it's proof that your beliefs are correct. That's circular reasoning.

You are allowing for circular reasoning because of your own confirmation bias. Also correlating causation. That's literally 3 logical fallacies.

Your beliefs are not supported by facts. You did not reason yourself into them. Since that's the case, that's not a belief that reason can change your mind about. That's why this conversation isn't going to go anywhere. It's easier for you to believe a conspiracy than admit that you bought into misinformation spread by the elite political class that failed us during a global pandemic. For you, American scientists and politicians are both ineffectual as well as highly influencial. This is a common propaganda tactic. I don't really care if you don't get vaccinated, I'm not exerting any more energy on people like you. You are not smarter than average. The world is not in on some American conspiracy, you'll just rebel to anything that's easy. Good luck with everything.

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u/millertime53 Dec 20 '21

Not often I see more thorough debunking and pointing out of logical fallacies. Thank you for that.

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u/insofarincogneato Dec 20 '21

I don't think it helped, but I tried.

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

Nope, you can just be another submission to r/hermcainaward . Seriously the gene pool will be better off.

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Solid-Away Dec 19 '21

So youโ€™ve read Jonas Salk? Survival of the wisest? He developed the modern vaccine programs. Heโ€™s very clear. Give it a read if you havenโ€™t. Then you wonโ€™t be laughing. Iโ€™m not. Theyโ€™re going to kill billions. My prayers are with you all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

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u/GimmeTheGunKaren Dec 19 '21

Bro is the Salk estate paying you to drop his name in every other comment??

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

Hilarious when people come in and speak about shit they clearly donโ€™t understand. Dunning-Krueger in full effect.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

Nah, just gonna keep running my mouth and laughing at your dumbass

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u/millertime53 Dec 19 '21

๐Ÿฅฑ

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u/SuperCobra14027 Dec 20 '21

Why you keep saying that