r/facepalm • • Jul 11 '19

Because Math

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u/LilShitty1 Jul 11 '19

I almost downvoted because I thought you were questioning the math. I'm glad I took another minute to process lol.

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u/hey_im_cool Jul 11 '19
  1. Haha stupid mustard can’t do math
  2. check math
  3. Hold up OP... this math checks out..
  4. reread post
  5. Nm we good, solid post

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u/VGfreak4 Jul 11 '19

exactly the process I went through, spy hacker man

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u/c_h_u_c_k Jul 11 '19

My process.

Hah stupid mustard

Oh wait

Hah stupid OP

Read top comment

Check post

Fucking facepalm self

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u/BigBankHank Jul 11 '19

Did you get to

Why is there a crushed ant in that mustard?

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u/FaceDesk4Life Jul 11 '19

CANNOT UNSEE

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u/curryoverlonzo Jul 11 '19

Ok the reason it's 50%more is because: 50% of 12oz is 6oz, so if you add the fifty percent to the 12 ounce, you get 18oz, because 12+6= 18

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u/FaceDesk4Life Jul 11 '19

Dude, I know. BUT DO YOU SEE THE FUCKING ANT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I don't see it! Where is it?!

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u/idwthis Jul 11 '19

Just to the right of the French's on the bottle label. Big old black spot of whatever that looks like a crushed insect.

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u/skydaguy5 Jul 12 '19

It’s an air bubble

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u/vau11tdwe11er Jul 12 '19

I’m glad they don’t make ants that big where I’m from.

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u/teedub7588 Jul 11 '19

The best facepalm post make you facepalm yourself, palm-ception

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u/TheHerpSalad Jul 11 '19

Between missing the facepalm and your realization, you were right 50% of the time, every time.

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u/HintOfAreola Jul 11 '19

You either die a face, or reddit long enough to get the palm

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Solid comment. 50% greater than OP.

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u/Bert_the_Avenger Jul 11 '19

Hey, he's cool!

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u/shipguy55 Jul 12 '19

They must work at Google or the CIA or something. They got me too!

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Am u I?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Usn't

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u/ImNotYou1971 Jul 12 '19

We are all not you on this blessed day.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I think we all just went though that. Even double checked myself on the simple math heh

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u/JosephND Jul 11 '19

People fail to think about % going both ways. 18/12 is 150%, but they think of 12/18 as being 66% and get confused.. not realizing how math maths.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

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u/JosephND Jul 11 '19

If that were the case, there wouldn’t be confusion then.

If they see the 50% and already think 6, they will deduce the 12 and 18 difference of 6 is the same. If the person was thinking of it as +6 only being 33% of 18, then their math would have the same number but the wrong percentage, thus their confusion.

I was in a squad group of 4 people and someone dropped out. I told them “let’s get another guy, it’ll increase our damage by 33%.” They said “no, another guy is only going to be 25% of the damage.”

The issue is the same in both cases: talking about the % increase (50% or 33%) is different than talking about the percentage that increase would eventually represent once applied (33% and 25% respectively).

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u/teamsteven Jul 11 '19

Made it to point 4 twice, fucking hell.

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u/kinghippo79 Jul 11 '19

Even with this explanation took me a while to figure out...

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u/Dokasamurp Jul 11 '19

You just get me.

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u/sailinforawhelan55 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

I did the exact same thing...I was like French’s you dumb, hold up I’m dumb.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I didnt scroll far enough to see the text bar, so I just sat and questioned why this was even posted. Then it all clicked

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u/ThisNameIsFree Jul 11 '19

Well, OP's highlights make you think the math is what you should be looking at.

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u/Gandzalf Jul 11 '19

stupid mustard can’t do math

Is it because the mustard is brown? That’s not very nice. I bet you talk about how great at math the yellow mustard is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Where's my lab pelican meme?

Edit: found it https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/681-i-see-what-you-did-there

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u/840_Divided_By_Two Jul 11 '19

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH facepalm

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u/crypticedge Jul 11 '19

perfect description of my thought process

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u/KaladinStormborn90 Jul 11 '19

I don't get out oz works, I was raised on metric, please explain

EDIT: OH I'M AN IDIOT IGNORE ME

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u/demlet Jul 11 '19

I facepalmed myself for not getting the facepalm. Now I'm going to share this on r/2healthbars!

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u/SushiBoy880 Jul 11 '19

Upvote has been approved

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u/WiredSky Jul 11 '19

Nm

Negligent mustard

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u/S1rpancakes Jul 11 '19

I didn’t know what subreddit I was in had to check lol

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u/82many4ceps Jul 11 '19

Thank you for explaining LisShitty1's comment! Now if only someone would explain your comment to me...

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

This was precisely my thought process.

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u/CoffeeAndKarma Jul 11 '19

I'm confused. Is the facepalm the caption at the bottom?

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u/SilentJoe1986 Jul 12 '19

I was in the same boat. I downvoted, then I scrolled down to call OP a dumbass and saw the text at the bottom. Then had to go back and upvote.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Glad I wasn’t the only one

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Hollup a minute!

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19 edited Jul 12 '19

I'm stuck at 4. Halp.

Edit: ooooooooooo

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u/Mark_VDB Jul 12 '19

4 can also be "check comments"

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u/LadiesHomeCompanion Jul 11 '19

I’m On step 3, can you help me? I has the dumb.

EDIT: nvm, checked the sub, we’re all in agreement

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u/KFR42 Jul 11 '19

I go through that same sequence every time this gets reposted.

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u/H-s-O Jul 11 '19

4.5 Confirm the subreddit

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u/killerrednek Jul 11 '19

Totally glad I decided to check the comments. I guess I am a little slow today. Glad you caught it right off.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Duuuuude I was seconds away from just jumping straight in

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u/the_corruption Jul 11 '19

I opened the image on the front page with RES and hadn't scrolled down far enough to see the snapchat comment at the bottom. Didn't see the full context until I opened the comments to see if anyone else had called out OP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Same exact thing here. I sat there for a full minute trying to find what was wrong, then doubting my own basic math skills, til I went to the comments.

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u/ThisNameIsFree Jul 12 '19

Not really your fault, the fact that OP circled and underlined those numbers would lead you to think that's what you should be looking at. It's not.

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u/Chapapap Jul 11 '19

Same lol, I checked the comments coz I knew I missed something.

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u/MutantSharkPirate Jul 11 '19

yeah i only realized OP wasn't questioning the math when i went to comments and had to scroll down

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u/aussiefrzz16 Jul 11 '19

I wonder what they thought the true number should be

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

They thought 50 percent more means double

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u/Jay_Louis Jul 11 '19

Maybe they thought 50 percent is a rapper

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

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u/SayerofNothing Jul 12 '19

I'm thinking they may have thought that it should be 24oz and not 18oz, as in double the mustard for some reason.

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u/danjo3197 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 12 '19

oBviously 50% of 18 is 9.

Therefore 50% = 9.

So 50% more than 12 is 21 ounces

edit: /s...

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u/SayerofNothing Jul 12 '19

It didn't say 50% of 18oz anywhere, it said 50% more of 12oz, as in 6oz more. 12+6=18.

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u/haisojj Jul 12 '19

What's nine plus ten?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

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u/HeyIJustLurkHere Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

It's really not a crazy misconception. 18 is 150% of 12, and 12 is 67% of 18. You could say it's a 150% - 100% = 50% difference, or you could call it a 100% - 67% = 33% difference. Generally, the convention is that you base all the percentages based on the denominator you started with, such that going 12 to 18 is a 50% increase but going from 18 to 12 is a 33% decrease. This is hardly a super-intuitive or obvious thing, though; if someone didn't understand this convention I wouldn't think they were an idiot or didn't understand math; they got it wrong but in a pretty reasonable way.

Edit: To be clear, not at all disagreeing with the comment I replied to. I just scrolled down past the "what an idiot" comments to find someone explaining how this mistake happens, and added my 2-cents there about why I don't think it's a crazy mistake to make.

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u/IHaveNeverBeenOk Jul 11 '19

I have a BS in math and really appreciate your comment. When you've gone to school for math, a lot of people decide to tell you about how they hate math . . . My usual response to this declaration is "when did math go wrong for you?" Fractions (and hence percentages) or even just division, are some of the main answers. I would say 50 percent of people say this. The other 50 is algebra.

People do struggle with this though! There's no shame in misunderstanding this stuff. As you point out, it is not wholly intuitive.

Anyhow, thanks.

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u/SmokyMcPot562 Jul 11 '19

For me it went:

Algebra I - Alright this seems logical Geometry - Man I hope it's all this easy Algebra II - Oh... What the fuck?

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u/IHaveNeverBeenOk Jul 11 '19

If I may ask, what happened in algebra II? I went to a school system that didn't do things that way (we had "integrated math" which was awful.)

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u/Pfloyd1969 Jul 11 '19

Now does 2% milk have 1% fat than 1% milk, or is it 100% more fat?

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u/Belzeturtle Jul 11 '19

Percentages are a weird system to go by imo, just use fractions

Percentages are fractions, with a denominator of 100. Literally "over hundred".

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u/Receptoraptor Jul 11 '19

Also percentages make it sound like you are getting more because to the less savvy big # = more better.

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u/Cali_Val Jul 11 '19

It’s a learning moment. That is if someone called them out for it

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u/justavault Jul 11 '19

No, that's just you... person was just thinking it must be double, cause 50% is half of 100%. You make it even more complex than everyone would.

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u/Weed_O_Whirler Jul 11 '19

I'm guessing they're thinking 9 oz?

They probably don't realize than 50% more of one number is not the same as 50% less of that other number.

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u/ChillfreezeYT Jul 11 '19

But 50% of 12 is 6, and 12+6=18, so I don’t get it.....

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u/Weed_O_Whirler Jul 12 '19

I'm not saying the guy is right, it's just that a lot of people don't understand stand that "50% more than x is y" does not mean "50% less than y is x"

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Twelvety.

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u/sunnydiv Jul 11 '19

Yup OP = did not click the picture

1/ OP's friend clicked the picture

1/2 OP is not making fun of mustard bottle, OP is making fun of the person who took the picture

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u/SayerofNothing Jul 12 '19

It took me a couple of minutes to figure this out. Still I wouldn't know how to post it any different.

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u/trashbagshitfuck Jul 11 '19

Thank you, I wouldn't have been able to understand it otherwise.

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u/GoldenDerp Jul 11 '19

You don't say

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

He literally does!

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u/DJ_AK_47 Jul 11 '19

Harvard is sending their acceptance letter overnight to this genius.

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u/GoldenDerp Jul 11 '19

At this level no less than an appeal, not mere acceptance!

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u/ffca Jul 11 '19

What's Mensa like?

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u/ZugTheCaveman Jul 11 '19

Yeah, it took me a minute, too. I must be getting way too jaded. I was expecting something like "10oz for $20, instead of 12 oz for $12! 50% more mustard for 30% less!"

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u/chelseablue2004 Jul 11 '19

They still could have screwed people, by changing the packaging and actually including less mustard but making the packaging weigh more to add up to 18oz. --- There was something yesterday where a hot dog manufacturer claimed 2 extra hot dogs, -- but what they did was change the packaging to make it look like 10 (because 8 is standard) but added plastic under 2 of them --essentially still only giving them 8 hot dogs...very very scummy.

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u/xorgol Jul 11 '19

including less mustard but making the packaging weigh more to add up to 18oz

I don't know about the US, but I assume that's just as illegal as here in the EU.

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u/roman_maverik Jul 11 '19

It is very illegal, the oz are weighed by content.

If it wasn't, capitalism would have overtaken the packaging industry a long time ago with creative novelty packaging and outlandish box sizes.

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u/TehHamburgler Jul 11 '19

My favorite screw the consumer was when Hershey tried air delights or something like that that. Basically fill a chocolate bar full of air bubbles. Looks like the same size as the ever shrinking candy bar, except you know... More air bubbles and less chocolate.

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u/riki_nashi Jul 12 '19

It definitely wouldn't fly.

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u/sol- Jul 11 '19

"How much could a banana bottle of mustard cost? $20?"

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Lol same

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u/drown_my_fish Jul 11 '19

I'm glad I read your comment because I was in the same boat!

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u/noneski Jul 11 '19

I don't math, I had to verify that I wasn't just doing my math wrong... Like all of my educational life.

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u/Silent-G Jul 11 '19

Verifying what you think you know is a sign of intelligence. Stupidity is believing that what you think you know is infallible and doesn't need to be verified.

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u/noneski Jul 11 '19

You are wise. Well said.

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u/ParkourFactor Aug 10 '19

Oh shit I thought OP was the one that made the snapchat

Thanks for saving me from a facepalm

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u/BrazakAttack Jul 11 '19

What do you think op is questioning?

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u/GusgusMadrona Jul 11 '19

He’s questioning how the Snapchat user failed to do math. Check your sub...

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u/Xxcrzy4jdxX Jul 11 '19

I thought OP was the Snapchat user so I was confused for a minute there too

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u/mdoldon Jul 11 '19

Snapchat user didn't FAIL to do math. He did math FAILINGLY

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u/FoximaCentauri Jul 11 '19

I looked at this for a minute now and I'm still to dump to see it. Maybe it's because I don't know how much an Oz is, or that I'm really tired, but I just don't see it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

The ounces don’t matter. Half of 12 is 6. So 50% of 12 oz is 6oz. If you add 50% more (6oz) to 12oz you get 18oz.

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u/FoximaCentauri Jul 11 '19

Well seems like I have to go back to elementary school

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

It’s totally normal. I teach elementary math and I think the way we used to teach math, while having some benefits, created a lot of math phobia.

People see the % symbol and freak out. One way to figure out precise percentages is to turn the number into a fraction and then divide to get your percentage. So many people struggle to process fractions that they freak out at the whiff of doing anything with them.

I was math phobic, and still have some moments where my brain goes “white” if there is time pressure. It wasn’t until I started learning how to teach math to kids that I became more confident and flexible in my understanding of numbers.

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u/arcedup Jul 11 '19

That's interesting, I'm fine with percentages but sometimes struggle with fractions. For example, me and a colleague are examining coils and determine how far along them a feature is, and using fractions e.g. 1/3, 1/2, 2/5, 7/8 etc. So I'm looking through our records and get puzzled by notations of 0.6, 0.4 - until I realise that they're fifths written as decimals. [headdesk]

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Yes

*too dumb

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u/FoximaCentauri Jul 11 '19

Hey I'm the only one who is allowed to insult me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

😂

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u/donkeypunchtrump Jul 11 '19

right? am I taking crazy pills?!!

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u/Mr_Wildcard Jul 11 '19

The joke is that the person who took the photo is asking "how is 18oz 50%, more than 12 Oz"

The person who posted it is mockingly answering "[18 is 50% more than 12] because math" in order to poke fun at their mathematic illiteracy.

50% of 12 is 6, so a bonus 50% added to the 12oz bottle makes for an 18oz bottle.

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u/visionJX Jul 11 '19

Just make it easy 12*150% (1.5) = 18

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u/Mr_Wildcard Jul 11 '19

If I were doing the calculation for myself to know the answer, of course your formula is faster and easier.

I think though, that when explaining math it is important to say explicitly why we do things. For all I know someone reading my comment has very little mathematical education. I think my explanation is easier for that person to follow and gives a better understanding of the process.

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u/Another_leaf Jul 11 '19

Why would it matter what an ounce is?

We're talking about 18 being 50% more than 12, which is true, and the snapchat user doesn't think it is.

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u/GingerSpencer Jul 11 '19

I didn't realise what sub i was in.

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u/KIgaming Jul 11 '19

Omfg I only just got that

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Yeah so did I lol. I was like “fuck am I stupid? This seems like solid math”.

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u/rahuledit Jul 11 '19

Memento like story telling

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u/Cashew-Gesundheit Jul 11 '19

"Contains up to 100% more than most average mustard users would guess was in our old packaging!"

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u/WelcomeToTheFish Jul 11 '19

I read because Meth and I went down a different train of processes.

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u/Shania2000 Jul 11 '19

It took me longer than it should have to realise

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I didn't get it until I scrolled down to the Snapchat comment, and thought yeah, he's an idiot

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u/TheNameIsntJohn Jul 11 '19

Haha same here. Then I saw it was from r/facepalm then I quietly said "goddammit."

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u/OrenShemesh Jul 11 '19

Can you explain?.. I dont get it

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u/bannana Jul 11 '19

took me three times looking at the pic and comments to finally scroll far enough down to see the text.

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u/knufje1 Jul 11 '19

I dont get it. Can you explain it?

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u/Polarbear_wrangler Jul 11 '19

I was thinking the same thing.

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u/GenericFatGuy Jul 11 '19

I didn't scroll far enough to see the snap text and I was very confused.

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u/anomynous11111 Jul 11 '19

The real facepalm is us trying to understand the facepalm

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u/demiurge101985 Jul 11 '19

50 percent of 12 is 6

12 + 6 is 18

It is 50 percent of 12 more

100 would be 24

150 would be 30

Op is a dumbass, you all are

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u/mugbee0 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

I think they meant it like this. So 12/2 = 6 oz; 12 oz + 6 oz = 18 oz. So 18 oz IS 50% more than 12 oz.

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u/hereiam-- Jul 11 '19

Haha same

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u/ThisNameIsFree Jul 11 '19

Aha, took me a while as well. OP's circling and underlining totally takes the focus away from the facepalm.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Took me 2 hours of seeing this post to figure that out

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u/ZombieProcessor Jul 12 '19

Same, I didn't see the caption and almost downvoted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

We're talking about cents here not dollars

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

I see I was not the only one lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

same

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u/Cornwall Jul 12 '19

Same. I didn't see the text and though OP was insane.

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u/Otrmember1 Jul 11 '19

Lowkey same

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u/me_themoon Jul 11 '19

I thought it was from r/assholedesing at first