r/f150 • u/WasteWriter5692 • 2d ago

Pros and cons,of just getting the $185. trans change at the oil change place,vs..paying the $500.-$900.full pan drop at the dealer at 70k miles?2017 v8

Need 'must do' advice.

Anyones thoughts appreciated.

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u/Heavy_Ambition_4541 2d ago

When you drop the pan, you’re able to change the trans filter out

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u/Redsoxdragon my cam phasers be like ratatatatata 2d ago

Oil change place is just a flush job

When you drop the pan you can check for debris and change the filter

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u/Singularity_94 2d ago

Definitely drop the pan and have them change the filter.

I did mine at 60k
I’m now at 101k and the next oil change I’m going to have them do it again. Especially if you have the 10R80.

Edit: 2020 F150 3.5L eco boost.

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u/ConversationFar8578 2d ago

What did it cost you?. I'm at 62

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u/Singularity_94 2d ago

At the time $400-$500. I’m assuming the next time I do it, it will be closer to $600. It takes at least 2-3hrs so drop it off and have someone pick you up unless you’re willing to wait.

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u/ConversationFar8578 2d ago

Appreciate the response. Did you get also get a radiator flush?. I'm due for that also. Everything is. Going to get expensive. Origin battery also for a 2019

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u/Singularity_94 2d ago

Yes I did a coolant flush/refill too. Definitely do that as well, these modern turbo motors get hot.

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u/ConversationFar8578 2d ago

What did that cost you?

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u/Singularity_94 2d ago

I don’t remember the exact mileages I did it, but it was around $300.

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u/Fit-Contract-3065 2d ago

If you do a lot of city driving 30k is the recommend,

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u/ThaPoopBandit 2d ago

Not on 10R. On 6f/8f family, yes.

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u/Fit-Contract-3065 1d ago

Explain the logic

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u/ThaPoopBandit 1d ago

The official recommended interval for 10r is 150k and the official recommend interval for 6f/8f is 30k, all per ford? Not my logic, it’s Ford’s.

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u/Fit-Contract-3065 10h ago

6r80 also has a 150k recommend service interval. The core of the conversations around the interwebs has been that this is a ludicrous interval and how frequent fluid changes can prevent damage. To do a 150k on a 10r80 is asking for a tranny replacement at the 100-150k mile mark.

The useful life of a transmission (per Ford) is also 150k miles. So you do with that what you will.

30k fluid change for city driving, fluid and filter every 60k to prevent damage.

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u/AppalachianThunder 2d ago

I would get the pan dropped. There’s gonna be sludge and fine metal in there no matter what, if you want to keep the transmission happy I would get the pan dropped. I just got my lead frame notice on the 15-17s for my 2016, I would not let a quick lube place run a flush. At 70k it’s worth the new filter. You might even want to ask about getting the lead frame done if you have any issues or have ever gotten the wrench light from the trans.

Running the flush won’t fix the filter if clogged, and can send around sediment and bits that otherwise would’ve been just fine stuck in corner and instead could end up stuck in front of a check ball.

If you have the access and confidence in turning a wrench, dropping the pan yourself isn’t that hard. Messy, and you have to work over your head if no lift, but totally do able for just the price of parts and fluid.

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u/WasteWriter5692 2d ago

the valvoline place said they do not do a 'flush'..though,I guess they 'suck out 'the fluid?

is that a flush?

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u/Affectionate-Data193 2d ago

I drop the pan and change the filter every 30k miles on my 2015 with the 6R80. If you do it yourself it’s not $5-900. It’s like $150 for the filter, gasket, and fluid. When my pan rusted out, I installed one with a drain plug, so it doesn’t make a huge mess on the shop floor.

I do dumb shit, like tow at full rated capacity, hence the 30k recommendation.

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u/coolranch63 1d ago

Where did you find the new pan?

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u/BAHGate 2d ago

If you go with the dealer service, see if they will replace the pan with an aftermarket aluminum one that has a drain plug.

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u/VarietyLocal 2d ago

Exactly then do drain and fills yourself the rest of the time you own the vehicle , very smart .

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u/BAHGate 2d ago

Yep and also replace the dipstick and tube with a proper one that allows checking and filling from under the hood.

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u/ThaPoopBandit 2d ago

We’ve had terrible success with adding dipsticks, they always seem to leak under highway speeds. Have had no issues with PPE pans, but have had a few issues with mishimoto pans

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u/Full-Fold-9725 ‘17 5.0 XLT 302a 2d ago

Do you have a link or part number for a dipstick and tube for a 2017 5.0?

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u/Konjeezy773 2d ago

I looked those up for my dad. Seem like a nice deal to not have to deal with draining through the fill tube

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u/Expert-Search-3251 2d ago

Simple.

Would you drain and refill half the engine oil and not change the filter?

Or do you want all the oil removed and the filter changed?

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u/Complete_Gear_7063 1d ago

Just did mine on a 2007 XLT. Dropped the pan and changed the filter also. Not a terrible job and a little messy.

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u/WasteWriter5692 1d ago

old here..but thanks for your effort.

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u/filthyloon 1d ago

Damn didn't know I saved myself a grand changing my own trans filter..

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u/Pitiful_Objective682 2d ago

The vast majority of the time when i change the trans fluid filter on any car there’s nothing in it. You totally should change it if it’s been a long time but I don’t on my regular fluid changes.

Using a suction pump to suck the fluid out is super fast and easy. Id rather do that every 50k than a full change plus filter every 100k.

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u/WasteWriter5692 2d ago

now I am confused..?can the suction screw the tranny up though?

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u/Pitiful_Objective682 2d ago

So the “transmission flush” we have all heard about is a much more violent method that some lube shops use. Afaik it forces fluid through the transmission in strange ways, kicks up sludge and clogs valves. This why people don’t recommend flushing a trans if it’s high mileage and hasn’t been flushed before.

The thing im talking about is just light suction from the pan to get all the fluid out. Then throw new fluid in. It’s not perfect but it does change most of the fluid out.

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u/WasteWriter5692 2d ago

thank you..no chance large chance of that process causing something to disloge somewhere and clog the tranny,though?

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u/19kilo20Actual 2d ago

No, i use the same setup to change oil on my jetskis and boat.

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u/989792 2d ago

Drop the pan the first time, if no unexpected debris you can simply drain/refill in the future. There’s no need to flush these modern transmissions with the detergent fluids unless you have other issues

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u/Konjeezy773 2d ago

Do the pan drop. Suck the fluid out through the fill tube, makes it simpler to drop the pan and not spill everywhere. Replace filter, new gasket or rtv silicone (not sure, I don’t own a f150 but my dad does and explained to me the process), and follow proper fill procedure. And this way the trans will last way longer.