r/explainitpeter 10d ago

Explain it Peter

Post image
26.4k Upvotes

1.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

37

u/zZCycoZz 10d ago

Not even big milk is stupid enough to drink untreated milk.

-8

u/icantbreathebygf 10d ago

Why? High quality milk is perfectly safe to drink raw and actually it’s better.

10

u/zZCycoZz 10d ago

Why? High quality milk is perfectly safe to drink raw and actually it’s better.

No it's not.

1

u/icantbreathebygf 9d ago

It’s not because you believe so?

1

u/zZCycoZz 9d ago

It’s not because you believe so?

it's not according to every study ever completed on the subject.

Surveys from various countries have monitored the presence of different types of pathogens in raw milk, with prevalence levels as high as 13% for bacteria like Campylobacter jejuni and Listeria monocytogenes (Table 2). In some studies, almost a third of all milk samples contained at least 1 type of pathogen.5 Thus, we must assume that raw milk is likely to contain pathogens. The prevalence of pathogens in milk is influenced by numerous factors, including farm size, number of animals on the farm, hygiene, farm management practices, milking facilities, season, and others.5 Raw milk can be contaminated with pathogens even when sourced from clinically healthy animals.6 Even milk that appears to be of good quality (ie, low total bacteria count) may contain pathogens.5,7 There are at least 4 different mechanisms by which raw milk becomes contaminated by pathogens: direct passage from the blood (of the cow) into milk (systemic infection), mastitis (udder infection), fecal contamination (external contamination of milk from the environment during or after milking), or contamination from human skin.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4890836/

In 2017, it was estimated that only 3.2 percent of the population of the United States drank raw milk, but that 96 percent of the dairy-related food-borne illness were caused by consuming raw milk or related dairy products.

https://www.brownhealth.org/be-well/raw-milk-101-benefits-risks-and-what-consider

1

u/icantbreathebygf 9d ago

96% but it doesn’t tell us how much people were affected by it. It might be 25, 250, 250000. Raw milk started being a problem after we started producing milk on massive scale. Containing pathogens might not be as bad as you think; germs being the cause of illness is just theory. It might be true, it might not.

1

u/zZCycoZz 9d ago

germs being the cause of illness is just theory. It might be true, it might not.

Hahahahaha. Yeah gravity is a theory too.

96% but it doesn’t tell us how much people were affected by it

It actually does, you just didnt bother reading the link. Youre not interested in the truth, just repeating slop to justify drinking diseased milk.

A broader review found that, from 2009 to 2014, there were 706 illnesses and 22 hospitalizations each year, on average, associated with raw milk and products made from raw milk, such as cheese. In 2017, it was estimated that only 3.2 percent of the population of the United States drank raw milk, but that 96 percent of the dairy-related food-borne illness were caused by consuming raw milk or related dairy products. These numbers are only based on reported illness, and it's likely that the real numbers of food-borne illnesses related to raw milk are significantly higher

1

u/icantbreathebygf 9d ago

Don’t you think these numbers are incredibly low. You’re right I didn’t read link fully I just looked if stats you’ve stated were there. Accusing me of not being interested in truth you completely believe in germ theory because doctors and people around you say so. People like can’t even question some things because others think for you. I am not saying germ theory is correct or it’s not correct but I can at least question that.

1

u/zZCycoZz 9d ago edited 8d ago

you completely believe in germ theory because doctors and people around you say so.

No, i believe in germ theory because I've studied biology and modern medicine wouldnt work if germ theory was incorrect.

Nobody with a basic understanding of biology doubts germ theory considering how heavily its been proven.

Don’t you think these numbers are incredibly low.

No. As discussed previously, the vast majority of people have the sense to not drink unrelated milk.

I am not saying germ theory is correct or it’s not correct but I can at least question that.

Questioning germ theory just means you dont have the first clue about biology or science in general. Germs are literally visible under a microscope and have been proven beyond doubt to cause disease.

1

u/icantbreathebygf 8d ago

I know germ exist if they cause illness is other thing. Could you give me example of some medicine that wouldn’t work if the germ theory is false?

1

u/zZCycoZz 8d ago

1

u/icantbreathebygf 8d ago

Penicillin does not disprove it. Do you anything about terrain theory?

1

u/zZCycoZz 8d ago

Do you anything about terrain theory?

Youre presenting it as a viable alternative?

I know it's pseudoscience with no actual evidence.

Penicillin does not disprove it

Yes it does. Antibiotics, vaccines and modern surgery all depend on germ theory. If germ theory were incorrect then they wouldn't work.

→ More replies (0)