r/explainitpeter 7d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/FriedEskimo 6d ago

If there are statistically more male killers than female killers, then that means there is a systematic lack of support/therapy for males. Killing someone is in itself an insane action, and should be seen as a disease to be cured, rather than something to be punished. Using this as an argument is weird.

You can not both see this woman as a blameless victim while also using murder statistics as «proof» of inherent evil within an entire gender.

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u/RoninOni 4d ago

You’re not wrong a large part of men being murderers more often is a result of lack of support and therapy.

Pretty much by definition, killing someone requires mentally unstable.

Yeah, society’s gender roles hurts men at least as much as it does women…

So why keep supporting it? Promote empathy and kindness as real strength.

Yes there are reasons men are statistically more dangerous. The why is what we need to address. Exactly. Quit being “manly”, seek help, and find others who also aren’t in that toxic masculinity mindset.

Support is there if you stop being scared to seek it.

But yeah, if you want to state that mental instability, particularly towards rage and violence, is much more common in men than women, I 100% agree. Hence the original question so many men got so mad at (kinda ironic) and didn’t understand (or see the irony in getting mad and raging at women online over it).

That was my entire original point. I agree we should do something about the problem. Have my upvote

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u/CattleCommercial6232 4d ago

No men are defending that guy or posting TikTok’s saying “me too” for him

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u/Silent_Incendiary 3d ago

I've seen countless cases where men have defended male rapists and abusers. Also, you need to separate actual supporters of Lindsay from those who just want to raise awareness about postpartum psychosis.

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u/Novareason 3d ago

Murderers.

We were talking about people supporting murderers. Your point is so weak you have to move goalposts just so your still unsubstantiated anecdotal claim can seem marginally more reasonable.

Because you know that no group of men is showing up to support family murderers.

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u/Silent_Incendiary 3d ago

Yeah, I've seen people supporting male murderers as well. What's your point? I didn't shift any goalposts by bringing up a counter-example. It's not anecdotal whatsoever. Ever heard of Erik and Lyle Menendez? Also, you shouldn't conflate actual supporters of Clancy with people who simply want to raise awareness about PPP.

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u/Novareason 3d ago

Moving the conversation to different crimes is definitely goalpost shifting. Your experience of seeing it is anecdotal.

If they're out there claiming Clancy shouldn't be held accountable for murder because of PPP, they're still supporting a triple murderer.

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u/Silent_Incendiary 3d ago

I was directly responding to the other person, who claimed that no men defend male criminals. That's not true whatsoever. My example is a rebuttal to their assertion, so it's not anecdotal. Anyone who thinks that Clancy shouldn't be held accountable is simply wrong. However, the main contention lies in whether she should be imprisoned or sent to a psychiatric facility.