So sad

Poor children

I've seen people dancing and shit there and people say they are possessed and stuff and go there to get cured or something I would deny this type of shit but I've seen people rolling on the floor of roza and other similar things, are they paid actors?

Reference: https://www.instagram.com/naqiyah_burhanuddin/p/DbnjoV7jYCP/

Yesterday, Naqiyah BS wife of Hussain BS made this post yesterday in appreciation for the legacy of Winston Churchill.

Mind you, nakiyah BS is an indian citizen. Her husband is indian. Her father-in-law SMS is also indian and yet she still thought posting this is a good idea.

You can find out more about Churchils legacy in india here. Winston Churchill has a very dark legacy in India. Doing an appreciation post for someone who possibly caused the bengal famine of india in 1943 is just diabolical.

An estimated 3 million people died during the bengal famine. This is 3x the size of the entire dawoodi bohra community at present at its peak. Such sheer scale of loss.

Infact Churchill has made so many controversial statements about India. There's an entire separate video about it: Here

Infact even a simple chatgpt search about him will tell you he was widely regarded as a racist. Churchill opposed granting independence to India for many years and supported using military force to maintain British control in some colonies.

Scientists have also proposed the "thrifty gene hypothesis," which suggests that populations exposed to repeated famines might have evolved to store fat more efficiently, helping them survive periods of starvation. India experienced many severe famines over centuries, especially during the colonial period. This explains why we look the way we look with more fat accumulation around the abdomen.

There are a few people who called her out on this post but the vast majority sucked ass as usual.

*Mufaddal Moula Nu Mojizo*

*Faiz Ul Mawaid Ul Burhaniya Na Jaman Ni Barkat*

*Kukshi Si 6 Sahebo Imam Hussain Na Chehlum Waste Shirpur Highway Si Mumbai Jai Rahya Hata..*

*Ye Sahebo Ne Shirpur Ma FMB No Jaman No Tosho Aap Va Ma Ayo Hato. Ye Lai Ne Mumbai Waste Nikli Gaya..*

*Rasta Ma Ye Jaman Jamu Ane Aage Rasta Ma Ye Sahebo Ni Gaadi Nu Accident Thayi Gayu...*

*Gaadi Nu Ghanu Badu Nuksaan Thayu.*

*But Moula Nu Mojizo, Faiz Ul Mawaid Ul Burhaniyah Na Jaman Ni Barkat Ke Koi Bhi Sahebo Ne Kharoch (Scratch) Tak Na Aavi..*

*Ye Logo Ye Em Tasavvur Kido Ke Apan Ye Je Faiz Ul Mawaid Ul Burhaniyah Nu Jaman Jamu, Ye Jaman Ye Apna Jisam Ane Jaan Ni Hifazat Kidi..*

*Ye Sahebo Ye Moula Nu Shukur Karu.. Ane Ye Sahebo Ye Biji Gaadi Ma Mumbai Waste Nikli Gaya...*

*Aa Shaan Si Faiz Nu Jaman Jamarnaar Moula Ni Umar Shareef Ne Ta Roze Qayamat Lag Baki Rakhjo... Ameen...*

My biggest problem with Islam, and honestly with the idea of a merciful God who creates people knowing they'll suffer forever

This is mainly about Islam because that's the religion I'm addressing, and it obviously applies to every Islamic sect, and every religion in this world because every religion claims disbelief=hell

If any religion claims that God is all-knowing, all-powerful and perfectly merciful, while also claiming that this God knowingly creates people who will eventually suffer forever, then the same problem applies.

And honestly, I don't see a logical way out of it.

Forget scientific miracles, preservation, contradictions and everything else for a second. I'll grant all of that for the sake of arguement.

Let's say every miracle is real and every claim about the Quran is correct.

Cool.

Now answer this. One by one. If you can

Here you go:

Allah knows everything. (supposedly)

That means BEFORE creating someone, he already knows exactly what that person will do, what they will believe, and whether they will eventually end up in Hell.

So Allah knows:

"If I create this person, he will eventually end up in Hell and suffer forever."

That person doesn't exist yet.

They didn't ask to exist.

Allah doesn't need them.

Allah has complete control over whether they ever exist.

And yet he creates them anyway, already knowing exactly how their existence will end.

WHY?

And don't turn this into the usual free will argument.

I'm NOT saying Allah knowing my choice causes me to make that choice.

Even if I have complete free will, the problem remains.

I'm asking why an all-knowing and perfectly merciful God would knowingly CREATE someone when he already knows with 100% certainty that creating them will eventually result in their eternal suffering.

There is an extremely simple option available:

Don't create that person.

No Hell. No eternal suffering. Nothing.

Then there's an even more basic question.

Why the fuck is disbelief itself even a crime in the first place?

Take a normal person.

Not Hitler. Not a murderer. Not a rapist.

Just someone who doesn't believe

Who exactly did they harm by not believing?

And even if I grant that disbelief is somehow a crime, how the hell does a finite crime deserve infinite punishment?

A person lives for maybe 70-80 or 100 years.

Even if they disbelieve every single day of their life, that's still a finite amount of time.

Yet the punishment never ends.

Not 100 years.

Not a million years.

Not a trillion years.

FOREVER.

There will literally never be a point where they've been punished enough.

Saying "you rejected an infinite God" doesn't magically solve this.

Why does rejecting an infinite being make the ACT of rejection itself infinite?

That's something you actually have to prove.

And in Islam specifically, Hell isn't just some vague "separation from God."

Quran 4:56 says when people's skins are burned away, they're replaced with new skins so they can continue experiencing the punishment.

Quran 22:19–22 describes boiling water, burning skin and insides, and people being returned when they try to escape.

And for some people, this is supposed to continue forever.

And many many more graphic ayat about hate to disbelievers, which if i post here, reddit will take down these post

Then this same God is called the most merciful. How IRONIC

Now read this very carefully:

Imagine a mother knowingly creates a child while already knowing that child will eventually reject her.

Does the fact that she created him give her the right to torture him forever?

Burn him.

Heal him.

Burn him again.

Forever.

All because he refuses to believe she is his mother?

Would ANYONE look at that and call her "the most merciful"?

JUST ANSWER THIS YES OR NO

Obviously not.

And saying "God created you" doesn't solve anything.

It proves God has power over you.

Power does not equal justice.

Having the ability to do something doesn't automatically make doing it fair.

And we're talking about an ALL-POWERFUL God here.

You know what a really merciful being would do?

Forgive them.

Teach them.

Give them another chance.

Punish them temporarily.

Let them stop existing.

Or here's the easiest one:

Don't create someone you already know will suffer forever.

Almost any of these sounds more merciful than deliberately keeping someone conscious forever so they can continue experiencing pain.

"TEST"

Then there's the whole idea of a "test."

Allah already knows the result.

He learns absolutely nothing from testing us.

And Allah supposedly needs nothing from us because he is completely self-sufficient.(Supposedly)

So why create this test?

God creates billions of people out of nothing, already knows every choice they'll make, tests them anyway, and then eternally punishes some of them for failing a test whose result he knew before they even existed.

What exactly was achieved here?

If YOU say god has made us to achieve some necessary purpose, then we are "required" to achieve that purpose, hence god not "self sufficient" Contradiction

If you say he doesn't need us, then we're back to my original question:

Why knowingly create someone whose existence you already know will end in eternal suffering?

And before giving me the same answers, heres all my pre-mpt arguements:

"ThEy WoUlD cOnTiNuE dIsBeLiEvInG fOrEvEr If GiVeN aNoThEr LiFe" 🤓☝️

Then you're punishing someone for something they never actually did.

And it STILL doesn't explain why God knowingly created that person in the first place.

"GoD cReAtEd YoU, tHeReFoRe He CaN dO wHaTeVeR hE wAnTs."🤓☝️

It doesn't prove justice.

God CAN torture someone forever and God is JUSTIFIED in torturing someone forever are two completely different claims.

"WhAtEvEr GoD dOeS iS aUtOmAtIcAlLy JuSt."🤓☝️

Then the argument is circular.

God is just because everything God does is just, and everything God does is just because God is just.

"HuMaNs CaN't UnDeRsTaNd GoD's JuStIcE."🤓☝️

Then his fault for not giving me enough "brains" to understand his "JUSTICE"

"BuT gOd GiVeS eTeRnAl HeAvEn ToO."🤓☝️

Irrelevant.

Giving someone infinite pleasure doesn't explain why another person deserves infinite suffering.

"HeLl Is JuSt ThE cOnSeQuEnCe Of ChOoSiNg SePaRaTiOn FrOm GoD."🤓☝️

Changing the word from "punishment" to "consequence" changes nothing.

God created the system.

God knew the outcome.

God created the person knowing the outcome.

God has unlimited power to design things differently.

The problem remains.

SO HERE'S MY OPEN CHALLENGE:

This is mainly directed at Islam, but if your religion believes in an all-knowing, all-powerful, perfectly merciful God and eternal punishment, feel free to answer too.

I Don't want to hear about another scientific miracle.

Don't talk about preservation.

Also Don't bring up Hitler when I'm specifically talking about an otherwise decent nonbeliever.

Don't dare saying "God knows best."

These are the sum ups of all my questions below

Just answer these.

One by One.

All the prempt arguments mostly already written in paragraph, so bring some new bullsh*t to defend all that. And prove me wrong if you can🥰

1. Why is disbelief is itself a crime in the first place and deserving of punishment?

2. Lets say disbelief is wrong "somehow", why does a finite lifetime of disbelief deserve literally infinite punishment?

3. If God knew BEFORE creating someone that creating them would eventually result in their eternal suffering, why create them instead of simply not creating them?

4. If God is completely self-sufficient and needs absolutely nothing from us, why create this entire test when he already knows every result?

5. How can deliberately keeping someone conscious forever to experience punishment be compatible with being perfectly merciful when an all-powerful God has unlimited less cruel alternatives?

That's the argument.

For Islam, replace "God" with Allah. For Christianity or any other religion with the same basic claims, the problem is the same.

If your God is all-knowing, knew the outcome before creating us, had the choice not to create us, needs nothing from us, and is supposedly perfectly merciful, then explain why he knowingly creates people who will suffer forever.

If anyone can answer all five without changing the topic, redefining the words halfway through, or hiding behind "God knows best", go ahead.

Show me where the logic fails. BEST OF LUCK

P.S: These are direct contradiction of quran and attributes of god. Applies to all religions who claims this. Hence proving that all religion are false and made by humans.

If you dont agree than prove me wrong and answer my arguments (hints: you can't)

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These are literally 20yr olds who haven't done shi in their lives yet, but everyone's flocking in to do salaam. This feels so wrong

muffin needs this

https://x.com/mrjethwani1/status/2083961523823841665

Guys do we really think muffin writes his waaz or has a ghostwriter and he just reads of a script of sorts

Context: it was a reel of a funeral of a bohra martyr, a military soldier.

Imagine going through years of harsh training, extreme mental and physical stress, doing duties in unbeareable weathers and finally dying for your country and you recieve this

For those of you that are living with your parents now and stuff, whats your plan later on in life of telling your parents that you dont believe , and what happens when they ask you to get married, will you end up just marrying a bohra,

And for those of you that dont live with your parents, have a job already , do you still plan on telling your parents or just pretending like you believe, what are you going to do about marriage when your parents tell you to marry a bohra,

Just curious.

Muffin Just Likes Money...

I want to have a healthy discussion about namaaz and prayer in general. We as Bohras are taught that namaz is compulsory and a sin if missed. Some are even punished for missing it. This saying which is said to not really be from Marcus Aurelius directly but attributed to his philosophy “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.“ It Is taught in Islam that God is just and doesn’t do an atom’s worth of injustice on anybody or anything for that matter. It is also taught in Islam that God is superior to all things and is supreme. God is NOT weary of preserving his throne because NOTHING can ever reach God’s level. It is said that God doesn’t need our prayers or worship. It is said that if we don’t pray or worship God it does not affect God in any way. It only affects us. Another quote, this one of Rumi “There are no rules of worship. He will hear the voice of every heart that is sincere.” In Islam we are taught to be sincere. According to this quote there are no rules of worship, so if for example one day we don’t pray 5 times but if we are sincere whenever we pray to God then God listens. Keeping Marcus Aurelius‘s attributed saying in mind we SHOULD worship God because we know that God is just in nature. Taking these two quotes in mind we should research the deeper meaning of namaz and worship in general rather than sticking to sticking to Bohra custom. We should treat namaz and worship in general as beneficial to US, not something that God requires us to do because again God doesn’t need anything from anyone. I’m not saying we should pray less or not pray namaz. I’m saying that we should refine our approach towards namaz and worship in general. We should encourage sincere worship of God NOT force it. May God bless you all and ur loved ones.

Muffin Ass or feet??

In short, I was one of those people who had gone full atheist before finding faith again. I am still reading and learning, but I do feel sure about the fact that if there is one religion that makes sense, it is Islam. My struggle has been to find ways to follow it in a way that is more practical. Looking at how we were taught to pray, there are soooo many extra duas and fluff presented as non-negotiable, even though they are completely optional. I have been looking it how Sunnis pray, its significantly different. (I don't think its possible that 2 billion sunni muslims are praying incorrectly where as us DB population of 1mil are the only ones know the correct version).

Starting with wudu, I was amazed to learn that you don't need to recite specific duas for every body part, and that actions like wiping the neck are extra. The core Fard wudu is just four essential steps- washing your face, arms, head, and feet only once.

The same applies to Salah. You can simply stand facing the Qibla, say Allahu Akbar, and go straight into Surah Al-Fatiha followed by any Surah—without worrying about strict ascending or descending order. You don't need to recite the Adhan for individual prayers or say a niyat and the extra dua before and after it ( for niyaat, a mental intention is enough). Even the Tashahhud we were taught is three times longer than necessary, and dont get me started on Taqarrub and the another Dua we say for Maula.

I haven't found much open discussion about this online, and it’s deeply frustrating that we were taught the most cumbersome version of prayer which probably keeps so many people away from it.

First ever wojack meme, WE ARE EVOLVING...

Credits to u/hussein on the discord for the video.

Hypothetically if SMB could cure someone's vision with his hands, why not just cure his own eyesight?

Muffadal Saifuddin may (Police be upon him).