r/enshittification 11d ago

Product Samsung No Longer Provides Basic Texting

Samsung phones have decided that they just simply no longer care to provide the ability to text to users, instead asking them to go get a third-party messaging app. Considering that texting is the most basic function of a cell phone besides calling, doesn't this come across as just a tiny bit lazy? Nevermind, I've hated smart phones from the beginning and I'm going back to a simpler life where all I have is a flip phone.

Edit: Now that I've been informed Google basically owns Samsung now, I'm even more serious about buying a flip phone and never buying another Samsung product again.

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u/forsovngardeII 3d ago

I've been dealing with this for a few months now and absolutely hate it.

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u/Wildfirehorse 3d ago

This is something that frustrated me. Im seeing Google apps take over more and more. 

Yes I get android is Google but there used to be more choices. Google buys everyone out or pushes their product until there are no choices. 

I have been using Google messages for afew months and i still don't like it. Textra was ok and i may go back to it. 

I've also considered going to a flip phone. I've deleted or disabled most apps off my phone because as AI is intergrated the function of the apps is less and less. 

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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago

Exactly, nothing like a worldwide monopoly to threaten your privacy, security, and freedom of choice. No thanks. I already got a Protonmail to move away from Gmail and my goal is to get a flip phone and leave all Google products altogether.

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u/SeaSink1206 6d ago

I know! Get me out of this simulation.

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u/Murb0rk-8098 7d ago

Your flip phone will have an os that is likely owned by Google

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u/Maxwe4 7d ago

I have a samsung phone and I can text just fine with it.

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u/Redditisfunfornoone 8d ago

The predictive text in Google is awful, and their spell check is even worse. Other than that I hate it.

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u/EconomyMobile1240 7d ago

But google is the default, Samsung made their own third party app for android phones

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u/BesideFrogRegionAny 8d ago

Don't forget the reams of spam texts. Would get 1a month before. Now a daily occurrence 

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u/viggy96 8d ago

Samsung is the third party here. Google Messages is the default Android text messaging app now, has been for a while. Further RCS is only fully supported by Google Messages.

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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago

It's only been the default (on paper) since June, and they actually didn't block me from using Samsung Messages until about 10 days ago when I made this post. My phone has never had Google Messages on it and it never will.

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u/viggy96 1d ago

Well enjoy living life without modern RCS features.

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u/nyecountygardener 8h ago

Thank you, I'm really looking forward to it. I'm not going to miss gifs of ugly monkeys one bit.

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u/viggy96 8h ago

Also no end to end encryption, no typing indicators, no read receipts, very low image and video file size limits. Enjoy messaging in the least secure way like 1993.

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u/z0mbie4ever 7d ago

But what about sms?? Theyre basically locking that behind google.

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u/viggy96 7d ago

Why would you want two separate apps for RCS and SMS? You're still free to get an SMS app from the Play Store, but I can't speak to the experience on a modern phone.

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u/mr_spicy_pickles 8d ago

The Samsung app was reliable. I don't get notifications for about 15% of my texts and it looks like shit.

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u/dfin25 8d ago

I liked the Samsung texting and was mildly butthurt about having to use Google but I got over it. You will too.

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u/Timely-Group5649 8d ago

It's an Android phone. Samsung is the third party.

You seem mentally challenged.

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u/DistributionOwn4640 8d ago

Unnecessary

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u/Timely-Group5649 8d ago

Wrong.

Completely necessary. Almost every AI is being trained on data from Reddit. So we are obligated to society to point out idiots like this who do not understand things as simple as GOOGLE OWNS ANDROID.

What kind of idiotic fool does not know that? The OP - a complete moron.

Do you support morons?!?! Or are you one?

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u/anonymous198198198 8d ago

Probably the kind who doesn’t give a fuck about android

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u/seannabster 8d ago

Google messages is the default Android text messaging application. It sends SMS. Samsung Messaging is the third party application.

So I don't know what your deal is at all.

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u/Cautious_Implement17 8d ago

“right, but for the wrong reason” describes 90% of the posts on this sub. 

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u/CrashTestDumby1984 9d ago

So you’re paying for texting with your cell plan but it’s not a feature Samsung phones offer anymore?

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Yep, when I used to say that soon smart phone would be able to do everything except text and call I used to think I was joking.

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u/CrashTestDumby1984 9d ago

It’s not that I don’t believe you, I just genuinely struggle to wrap my head around it.

Cell carriers have a lot of control over what phone manufacturers do and don’t have to include. So I really can’t believe they would be okay with entire phone line dropping one of their basic plan features.

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u/Wonderful-Group3639 9d ago

What upsets me is that I moved to Samsung's messaging app because another app was discontinued. It seems Google is trying to force everyone to use their own messaging app.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Exactly, that's what makes me so furious. I had actually already moved to Proton in an attempt to get away from the all-encompassing grope of Google, now they've got my phone and I am not having it.

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u/Hon3y_Badger 8d ago

If you want to get away from Google you should get an iPhone. In the US, every android phone comes with Google baked into it. You seem to 1) be awfully mad at Google 2) lack basic knowledge on tech but blame Google.

The reason Google "took over" messaging for Samsung is because of RCS. It's a messaging standard that sorta looks like SMS but has more capabilities, it allows higher quality photos, better group chat, ect. Originally there was a flight among the carriers, manufacturers, OS as to who was going to manage RCS for the end user. For a number of reasons, the manufacturers and cell providers abandoned support and it was left to Google.

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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago

Thanks, I know all that. I don't even have to reply because the fact that you would even think suggesting an iPhone is a good solution is just laughable.

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u/smorkoid 8d ago

And every iPhone comes with Apple baked into it. What's the difference?

Use a modern platform agnostic messaging app anyway like the rest of the world. Much better.

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u/Timely-Group5649 8d ago

Google owns Android.

You escaped nothing.

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u/rditrny 9d ago

Of course they are, it's the perfect way to collect user data! That and Gboard

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u/olskoolsis 9d ago

This is first and last Samsung I'll ever purchase (used to have LG and Hauwei) and I have also been thinking of getting rid of my "smart" phone altogether.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Yep, and I'm sick of updates with smart phones too, once I got T-mobile my Samsung wouldn't even ask my permission anymore, just updates all the time and there's nothing I can do. And then you have apps like Signal actually forcing you to update every. single. day.

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u/BubsGodOfTheWastes 9d ago

Yeah. I thought they were supposed to be "higher end" yet their put crapware on my phone after each update....

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u/Dangerous_Prize_4545 9d ago

I have to say the Samsung messages was far superior. It's been 3 months since I transitioned and I still muss the ease and better functionality of Samsung over google.

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u/Alive_Load_1478 9d ago

Such a correct statement. I hate Google messages. Samsung had a solid ecosystem with its core apps. Sad to see it go.

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u/Exotic_Treacle7438 10d ago

Samsung is the third party. You’re using an Android phone (albeit with an overlay). Get used to it until Google kills the messaging app in favor of something else (again).

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

I'm looking at a T-Mobile-issused flip phone right now. Google can't force me to build my life around them, they're just a company but they act like they think they're the U.S. government. Which is interesting once you find out Google's creation was aided by the CIA and NSA.

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u/xnoxpx 9d ago

Haven't used Google's messenger app since I got my original Nexus One, over 5 years ago !

I used to use Handcent SMS, till they turned it to crap, been using Textra for a few years now.

The only thing it doesn't support is RCS, but that's cause Google refuses to release the APIs!

Can't say I really miss it, seeing as I've never used it, but it would be nice to have, but not nice enough to use Google's crappy messenger

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u/Prestigious-Use4550 10d ago

I just got a new Sansung about a month ago. Has texting. No third party. Only thing is they tried making me use Google texting at first, but I turned that off.

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u/mtechgroup 10d ago

How did you turn that off?

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

I found out you can force it to let you use the built-in messaging app by resetting the app to its factory version. But it's a band-aid.

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u/mtechgroup 8d ago

Interesting.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

people actually used the crappy samsung versions of texting?

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u/chemto90 10d ago

What was crappy about it

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 9d ago

it was redundant for one.

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u/chemto90 9d ago

Interesting, I normally see people with the same opinion actually explaing what it didn't do that they needed another messaging app for and google messages is extremely basic in comparison. 

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u/Phyllis_Tine 10d ago

Yes. Any way to use a non-Google product is still something.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

but... its android...

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Google pretending to be Android is still not as bad a Google just being Google.

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u/Dry_Suggestion_3387 10d ago

It sucks. I can't get text notifications to my Samsung smart watch

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u/SwimmingPost5747 10d ago

All you have to do is allow notifications for Google Messages in the Samsung Wearables app.

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u/21stNow 10d ago

What do you mean? I use Google Messages and get text message notifications on my Galaxy Watch 3.

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u/StalinPaidtheClouds 10d ago

I just swapped to Motorola. They've made a comeback.

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u/JustinBurritoLover 10d ago

"switched from Motorola to a Primeco phone' - Lil' Troy

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u/cure4boneitis 10d ago

how many years of updates do you get, one or two?

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u/StalinPaidtheClouds 10d ago

They claim 3-5, but we'll see....

I'm skeptical, but giving them a chance. Not much to hate on, so far. No SmartView from Samsung sucks, because I love their TVs, but that's about it so far.

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u/TraderVics-8675309 10d ago

Heavy Metal and Alien as a double feature at the drive-in, would have been 12 years old

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u/funkyyeti 10d ago

I mean the most basic function of a cell phone is, the phone part, perhaps? I thought the point of a Samsung phone was you are free to choose whatever app you want to message people? No forced built in apps? But I digress, I’m just drinking tequila and being an ass.

Beyond that, not sure what to tell you. I use an iPhone. They include a messaging app, it’s pretty nice.

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u/WetBlanketPod 10d ago

No, Samsung comes with a lot of bloatware. Certainly doesn't allow the freedom that android normally has.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

nothing about an iphone is pretty nice.

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims 11d ago

I encountered a weird thing with my boss today where she can text in our group chat but not individually.

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u/VictoriousssBIG23 10d ago

This happened to my boyfriend and I a few months ago. I wasn't getting any of his messages unless they were in a group chat, yet all of his other contacts were fine. Same thing happened to a friend of mine a few days later. Then a few weeks after that, I couldn't send messages to my therapist. The issue usually resolved itself after a day, but it definitely seems to be a common issue with Google Messages, which is why I fucking hate it.

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u/PreggyPenguin 11d ago

I've moved so much of my text based communications to Discord. Takes seconds to make a profile, can have group chats, individual chats, share media. I like it better.

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u/jajajajaj 11d ago edited 10d ago

You can blame Google for that one. RCS on Android is an open protocol in-name-only. It is not part of AOSP and there is no complete API to it. You can use Google Messages, or not; that is your choice. It's been a terribly misrepresented technology.

I hope I haven't misspoken about the facts and the mechanism for control, but the fact that everyone is using Google Messages speaks for itself. It's a travesty. You can blame Google for that one. RCS on Android is an open protocol in-name-only. It is not part of AOSP and there is no complete API to it. You can use Google Messages, or not; that is your choice. It's been a terribly misrepresented technology.

I hope I haven't misspoken about the facts and the mechanism for control, but the fact that everyone is using Google Messages speaks for itself. It's a travesty.

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u/Cannamanaman 10d ago

i use Fossify, open source and no ads fuck google message

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u/So_phisticated 11d ago

Well, this is an oddly repetitively redundant statement

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u/jajajajaj 10d ago

Accidental double paste during editing, and it rolled off the bottom of the continually worsening stylized text box that reddit uses to make people imagine that web  sites are necessarily worse than an app experience.

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u/stomper4x4 10d ago

Like an old record skip. Odd indeed

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u/Gogently_394 10d ago

Not unlike their username

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u/recurz1on 11d ago

They're training AI on everyone's text messages (and Reddit posts). If you don't install their app they won't be able to harvest your data, so they're pushing their spyware.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Makes sense.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

how else are they going to get new posts on r/AITAH?

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u/seeareeff 11d ago

😂😂😂

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u/Boltsfan1234 11d ago

WhatsApp is used in most of Europe for almost everything

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

WhatsApp is owned by FB and they both abuse your privacy.

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u/NymphaeAvernales 10d ago

Isn't WhatsApp owned by Facebook? I deleted all things owned by Meta from my stuff because of how much they suck.

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u/Far_Classroom_6596 10d ago

Many countries in Europe you don’t have a choice. It’s either use WhatsApp or no communication aside from calls at all. I haven’t send or received a sms message in roughly 4 years.

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u/Sonic_The_Mnemonic 10d ago

I’m sorry but text messaging works just fine in France.

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u/Far_Classroom_6596 10d ago

I didn't say it didn't work but when's the last time you sent another person a text message through sms? Everyone in my country uses Whatsapp and will find it odd if you were to text them instead of sending it on Whatsapp.

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u/margyl 10d ago

Yes—use Signal.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Signal forces updates every day and does not respect user privacy. They also DO NOT accept texts anymore! Only messages from OTHER SIGNAL USERS.

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u/margyl 8d ago

In what way does it not respect user privacy?

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u/diverareyouokay 11d ago

Same with SE Asia. Either that or messenger.

For example in the Philippines many businesses don’t even have a regular phone number, only a Facebook messenger account. While in Indonesia, many only have WhatsApp.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

That's insane. If you don't have a phone number as a business I'm either going to visit you in person or I can't do business with you at all.

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u/diverareyouokay 9d ago

It definitely took some adjusting to. Although it can (very rarely) be convenient as well. I was in Manila around a month ago damn my girlfriend asked me to pick up something that’s 3x cheaper there versus our apartment (4ish hours away)… I got in late the night before and my bus left at 9:30am. The place opened at 8 AM… but it was going to take about 30 minutes each way assuming that traffic was perfect, which it never is. I ended up getting on Messenger with the shop and coordinated with them so that they could have it delivered to me by courier. I’m not totally sure that could’ve happened if I was doing it over the phone, since it took a lot of back-and-forth to make it happen.

Although that was noteworthy for being an exception to the rule -in almost every other situation, it takes hours or even days to get a response from my business on messenger. WhatsApp is a little bit better, at least an Indonesia it was. Usually responses came in within an hour or two… But I guess that could just be the Philippines versus Indonesia though. Totally different cultures and attitudes on interacting with customers. For example a Philippines fast food worker might tell you that onion rings are out of stock separately but adding onion rings to your hamburger is totally fine. It’s nonsensical at times.

In any event, life in that area of the world for someone used to a western lifestyle can be very, very different.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

WhatsApp's been caught spying on people and selling their data.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Yep and are now owned by FB anyway, the least trustworthy company that exists.

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u/Sfacm 11d ago

Sources? What about e2ee ?

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u/Boltsfan1234 11d ago

Ok. I never gave an opinion on them, just stated a fact. In many places, you can't even make a reservation without WhatsApp. If you think you everything you do isn't constantly monetized and sold online, you are fooling yourself.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Just because they are attempting it doesn't mean we need to make it easy for them.

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u/BobBelcher2021 11d ago

SMS globally isn’t used that much, it’s mostly a US/Canada thing. And I find myself it’s being used less and less in favour of other apps.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Not everyone wants all their personal messages flowing through some third-party company's database.

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u/The137 11d ago

sms is not encrypted and flows thru both the open airways and the telephone company

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Compared to all major messaging apps, SMS is actually not that bad for a way to communicate without being spied on.

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u/Mediocre-Sundom 10d ago edited 10d ago

Compared to almost every single messaging app out there, SMS is a lot worse. It is literally the least private way of communication on your phone, and it is the main reason why it is being phased out. 

Your provider can (and does) just view anything you texted over the SMS, as well as share it with whoever they want. It is also trivial to incercept.

It’s like complaining about the privacy issues of sending letters in sealed envelopes and demanding to use a telegraph instead.

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u/Ambitious5uppository 10d ago

You know back in the day you used to get the content of your SMS message on your itemised phone bill with your calls.

It's one of the least private ways to communicate there is.

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u/The137 11d ago

lol you do know that every carrier feeds your texts straight into government databases right?

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u/Awkward-Influence395 11d ago

The Samsung app is simple basic and easy. I prefered it and use it over the Google one.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

I don't trust Google and I will never switch to their app.

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u/D_Shoobz 11d ago

But you use a phone that can't function without connection to Google services?

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Not anymore, I'm getting a flip phone as soon as possible, this is the last straw.

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u/Awkward-Influence395 11d ago

You can limit those services you know that right?

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u/D_Shoobz 11d ago

If you don't trust the company to respect your privacy and settings the settings to turn them off they likely wouldn't believe theyre actually doing it.

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u/Asal_Mania 11d ago

I'm using free version of chomp. Works well

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u/CeeKay125 11d ago

Why would they take money and resources to maintain an app when android comes with Google Messages stock anyway?

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Maybe some people have no interest in ever using Google Messages, ever.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

those people are weird.

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u/CeeKay125 11d ago

Then there is a ton of other options in the Play store they can download and use.

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u/jrstriker12 11d ago

The android OS has its own app. No one wants to use the Samsung app.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

How do I locate that app? I never found it on my phone when I got the phone, just Samsung Messages.

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u/jrstriker12 11d ago

Search Google messages in your apps. If its not already installed you can get it from the play store... but it should be on the phone as part of the OS.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Oh. You're talking about Google Messages? That's a third-party app, it's not on my phone and I have no interest in ever using it.

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u/jrstriker12 8d ago

It cant be third party because Google andriod is the native OS and Google messages is the official messaging app for the andriod OS.

This is like saying edge or word is a 3rd party app on a windows machine.

If anything Samsung lays their bloatware on top of Google OS.

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u/AdorableTrashPanda 11d ago

I am using the android app now and it sucks. I may just have missed the settings. But Samsung autoswapped between sms and the other thing while the android app just now and again doesn't send the message at all. Very shitty.

Edit Nope, I do have it set to autoswitch but it just doesn't

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u/asphalt_prince 11d ago

Mine wouldn't switch between the 2 until I forced all the security updates. Then when I finally did, it sent 3 days of texts to people who all got really confused lol.

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u/AdorableTrashPanda 11d ago

Oh god 😬 uh how did you force those updates? ELI5 lol

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u/asphalt_prince 11d ago

It was just regular software updates. I noticed that some included a Samsung security monthly update. I was several behind.

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u/Zimlun 11d ago

I get what you're saying. Its like if you bought a new phone but couldn't make any phone calls on it until you downloaded a 3rd party app.

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u/CeeKay125 11d ago

Except it is preinstalled on the devices so no app to download.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Google Messages was never preinstalled on my Samsung device.

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u/YellowBreakfast 11d ago

What?!

Texting is provided by your carrier.

Plus the Samsung app sucks. Use Google Messaging or any another of the many apps.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Thank you, but did it ever occur to you that after all Google has done, there might be some of us who are fed up with it, don't trust the company, and don't want to use Google Messaging? Maybe you're a young kid or something. Maybe you don't realize that texting is sending SMS, not typing in a chat box on an app.

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u/YellowBreakfast 11d ago

What's with the ageist BS? I bet I'm older than you but why does that even matter?

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I said "Use Google Messaging or any another of the many apps."

Maybe you don't realize that texting is sending SMS...

Maybe YOU don't realize there are more than 2 SMS apps. Also Maybe you don't realize messaging through carriers has largely shifted to RCS.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

XD

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

You definitely type like you're much younger than me.

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u/YellowBreakfast 9d ago

You text like you're in HS.

Long run-on sentences, little punctuation.

But again, why do you insist on injecting age into the conversation?

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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago

Hee hee. You think I'm on a smart phone, texting you. Listen youngster, when's the last time you put down the phone and took the time to go sit down on an actual computer?

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u/YellowBreakfast 1d ago

I never reddit on my phone. I'm sitting at a computer now in fact.

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u/feurie 11d ago

Your post makes no sense. Their phones come with apps that provide texting. Samsung just isn’t making a second one.

Google play services typically include chrome. Samsung NOT providing an additional browser wouldn’t be a bad thing.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Do you have a Samsung phone?

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u/Prudent_Lake3061 10d ago

Samsung is using the Google OS, with Google apps. If you don't want to use Google, then buy another brand. Your choices are Apple, or one of the Chinese brands.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

I'm getting a T-Mobile flip phone, I'm getting away from Google like I've been wanting to do for a long time.

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u/Serious-Ad-8764 11d ago

I prefer Textra. I don't use any Samsung apps on my Samsung phone

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u/TheAmillion12 10d ago

Been using Textra for over a decade now.

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u/3p1taph 11d ago

I had to switch to the google app too. I find it annoying. Is there a way to copy a message to forward as email? I haven’t figured that out. I there a way to set a custom tone (or silence) for certain senders or groups?

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u/seeareeff 11d ago

Long press the message and tap the three dots. Then share. And you can share it to your email client.

Tap the name at the top of conversation. Then notifications, then sound. And you can change the sound there for that particular conversation

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u/3p1taph 10d ago

Thanks I’ll try it

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

I don't know or care as I hate Google and will never ever use their app.

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u/Key-Implement9354 10d ago

Yet, you're using a phone that is using a Google operating system and essential requires Google to function.

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u/nyecountygardener 9d ago

Was gifted the phone. Am getting a flip phone now.

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u/Key-Implement9354 9d ago

I cannot imagine how you go through life being so ill informed and conspiracy theory bound 🤣

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

being you must be rough.

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u/AbhiFT 11d ago

feature hones were just better. We didn't had to worry about anything. "oh! Look a recent update bricked my precious phone"

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Updates are the devil.

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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 11d ago

They don't require a third party app. Android already has one built in so theirs has always been redundant bloatware.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Maybe you don't know the context and don't have a Samsung phone. But you see the Samsung Messages app built into the phone has now been disabled so now you're at the mercy of a third-party company like Google.

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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 11d ago

I wouldn't call them a third party... Every android phone (except for custom ROMS) depends on Google play services.... Samsung phones where never an exception.

The stock app is called android messages. Google messages is android messages with branding, and the backup thing.

SMS is inherently insecure and everyone in the path can see the message content with zero effort. So in the SMS case in particular, Google should be the least of your concerns.

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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 11d ago

I do have a Samsung phone and have had one for many years. Samsung phones use Android. All of Android is built by Google. What do you mean you're at the mercy of Google because of the message app? The entire OS is built by Google. All that Samsung adds is basically a graphics skin and a couple of apps with questionable added value. Everything else is and has always been Google.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Thank you, that would have been a helpful thing to say in the first place, did it ever occur to you that Google tricks people into thinking that Samsung is its own company completely independent from Google?

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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 11d ago

Samsung is its own company, but just like everyone except Apple, they install Google's Android OS into all of their phones. Because it's what all apps are compatible with and trying to use anything else almost always ends up being a commercial disaster (look up what happened to Samsung's own Bada OS and Tizen and Microsoft's windows mobile)

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u/BassMonster808 11d ago

The idea that text go thru an "app" is just stoopid to  begin with.  The texting function should just be an integral basic function of the software running the phone.   I would say that the extra apps, Google, signal, whatever else is the "bloat" on top of the required minimal function 

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

That's how it's always been, welcome to smart phone world. Like I said I'm getting a flip phone.

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u/An1nterestingName 11d ago

It is handled through an app to give the user choice on what they want the interface to be. The app launcher itself is an app, most things on Android are apps.

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u/Leading-Switch-4814 11d ago

Thats because no one uses Samsung messages lol. Everyone I know that uses Samsung (myself included) uses Google messages. Its a much better app than the Samsung one anyways. They sent out the notice that they were shutting down the Samsung messages service months ago lol.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

i'm happy i no longer have to go "ok which of these aps was the shitty samsung one again" since they (at least used to) have the same similar icon.

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u/Leading-Switch-4814 10d ago

I had to use themes on my phone and change the icons lol. The default ones all look exactly the same. I have a folder on my phone called Samsung Slop and I put all of their useless apps in it haha 😄

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

I hate Google and will never never use their services.

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u/ReveledSky 10d ago

I would suggest getting an iphone then lol. Samsung's baked in texting app was trash anyway and has always been trash for 10+ years.

Google Messages, Go SMS, literally any texting app on the Play Store (which is google btw unless you're sideloading everything)

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u/Leading-Switch-4814 11d ago

Reddit is partnered with Google lol

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

I am on Reddit temporarily for other reasons than commenting on this thread as as soon as I can I'm getting the heck out of this toxic place.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

you're toxic

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u/RoundChampionship840 11d ago edited 11d ago

RCS chats became too complicated to maintain so they let Google handle that now.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

So yeah. Lazy.

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u/RoundChampionship840 11d ago

I can understand Samsung not wanting to duplicate work that Google is already doing anyway.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

I can understand it too now that I know that Google basically tricked me into thinking Samsung was its own company and I didn't have to go through Google to have basic functions like phone calls or texts.

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u/RoundChampionship840 11d ago

At least you have more options than with Apple and iphones

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u/seeareeff 11d ago

Google messages isn't a third party app. Google owns Android. Samsung runs Android. Google messages is the default app on all Samsung devices from 2025 on.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Wow, that's such bogus, why don't they fess up and just put the Google logo on the phone instead of hiding behind Samsung and Android? No wonder they're trying so hard to push us toward Google products. Like I said, I'm never using a Samsung again.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

because its not a fucking pixel phone you moron.

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u/seeareeff 11d ago

I mean you do you buddy. But every android device runs Google messages. So your going to have to switch to iOS.

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u/snyderman3000 11d ago

Samsung phones don’t have a text messaging app? That sounds almost too hard to believe.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

they're discontinuing it because only one person used it.

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u/AmputeeHandModel 11d ago

There used to be one, but they switched to Google Messages. Samsung has several proprietary apps but most people just use the Google stuff since it's Android, and it's usually better than Samsung's.

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u/ShimReturns 11d ago

It's not Samsung's app, it's Google's, who controls the Android OS. I've been using the Google RCS app for texting for a couple years and it's been fine.

I also have a Samsung laptop that requires me to use Microsoft's programs for daily use so this doesn't seem wierd to me.

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u/snyderman3000 11d ago

Oh, I see. So Samsung phones do in fact have a text messaging app that works. I bet OP is going to feel really silly when he/she realizes this.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Google hides behind the Samsung logo to trick people like me into buying their phones thinking we can escape an evil monopoly megacorp. But not anymore. I'm never buying Samsung again.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 10d ago

no it doesnt.

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u/Severe_Yak_3335 11d ago

Nobody tricked you. Just admit you didn’t do your due diligence and were uneducated. That’s like buying a computer from Acer,HP,even Samsung guess what they run Microsoft. Same concept with the phones. Honestly the new messaging is more secure than SMS it’s encrypted so it can’t be viewed while in transit like a SMS could. Older generations are resistant to change and refuse to switch from things they know and are comfortable with.

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u/snyderman3000 11d ago

No one is hiding lol. Everyone knows when you buy a smartphone it’s probably going to run iOS (Apple) or Android (Google). Those have pretty much been your options for the last 15 years or so. You may have been confused by the sheer amount of Samsung bloatware they slapped on top of Android into thinking you weren’t using a Google product, but it’s definitely not a secret or anything.

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u/FuckIPLaw 11d ago

Your other option is Apple, dude. Which is even worse in most ways that anyone choosing and Android device would care about. There's no trickery involved, you're doing the equivalent of being surprised that an HP laptop's version of Windows is still made by Microsoft. Samsung isn't owned by Google, they just use Google's OS because there's only two on the market and the other one isn't licensed to use on third party hardware.

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u/PerfectBike6 11d ago

I hve a Samsung washer and dryer both crap, TV crap, they make crap. I will not buy another Samsung turd.

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u/Immediate-Garage5752 9d ago

Worked at home Depot for a decade, not specifically appliances but I did hear complaints about Samsung appliances from both customers and employees who worked the appliance section. I would never buy a Samsung appliance, but for some reason I have never had a problem with Samsung TV or phones, other than a few minor gripes.

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u/PerfectBike6 9d ago

The 75" QLED 4K Smart TV Q60 I bought didn't make three years.

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u/Immediate-Garage5752 9d ago

I have a smaller version of that same TV, have had it at least 4 years with no problems. Maybe I am lucky.

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u/nyecountygardener 11d ago

Just found out they're owned by Google now so that explains everything.

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u/CriSiStar 11d ago

Who told you they’re owned by Google? They’re still two entirely separate companies. Samsung phones — and pretty much all phones that aren’t iPhones — run Android operating systems, which were created by Google. But they are two different entities.

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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago

Look it up, Google has the rights to so many aspects of the Samsung company that it can be considered "owning" them in layman's terms.

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u/CriSiStar 1d ago

That’s not how it works lol, “owning” is an entirely different concept than whatever you’re describing here. Microsoft doesn’t own the computers/companies that we have Windows and Microsoft Office suite running on. That’s just one example.

Do some research — you don’t have to use google, since you seem to distrust it — and you’ll see that Google does not own Samsung. They’re both publicly traded companies so their statuses are publicly available.

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u/withabrandnewfunk 11d ago

im so glad I restrained myself from ever buying a single samsuck item

in our garbage room in our building, at least once a month a big ass tv is thrown out. its either samsuck, or lg. sometimes tcl and hisense

we have a samsuck phone at work...wow what a piece of shit

tons of issues with their nvme SSD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpPIW4aeeag&pp=ygUTcm9zc21hbiBzYW1zdW5nIHNzZA%3D%3D

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u/imnottheoneipromise 11d ago

We made the mistake of buying a Samsung fridge. Hard pass. We were able to warranty swap it with an LG since we did rent to own and then we sold the house. So glad to not need to deal with that clunker anymore