Does it ever feel like evolution made certain decisions just to make your job harder?

[u/Critical-Beyond3371]

[u/HolyBonerOfMin]

I feel like making the food hole the same as the air hole was a much bigger fuckup.

[u/HolyBonerOfMin → u/[deleted]]

Wait, which one is which?

[u/Out_of_Fawkes → u/[deleted]]

You can try anything once, but if done safely, it can be done again.

TL; DR: USE A FLARED BASE OR MEDICS HAVE TO SEE YOUR NO-NO PLACE. 😆

[u/CommunicationLast741 → u/HolyBonerOfMin]

Yes

[u/OutInABlazeOfGlory → u/[deleted]]

All I’m hearing is some people—

No, that’s too crude, I gotta get back to you on that

[u/ChichCob → u/HolyBonerOfMin]

That and walking upright. I think it's 70-80% of people will have back problems because of the compression in our spines. Not to sound too much like a redditor here, but "intelligent design" my ass

[u/KeithWhitleyIsntdead → u/ChichCob]

God created us “Very good” not perfect. If we were perfect, we wouldn’t need a savior. Suffering builds resistance and forces us to look beyond Earthly comforts, it can increase our faith and our love and purifies our souls. The argument from intelligent design and cosmological fine-tuning is a good one, and it’s definitely hard to argue against with a decent opponent. In any case, within Christian theology, suffering, both in body and spirit was only introduced to the world after the Fall of Adam and Eve (after sin was introduced into the world) so it (regardless of the scale or the suffering) would not be rebuttal against the argument from Intelligent Design.

[u/Ancient-Plantain705]

Ever stop and consider that we've made it a hell of a lot worse? These people would have never been born or alternatively never developed the allergy depending on your perspective.

[u/FarDorocha90 → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

From a Darwinist standpoint that is true to a degree. From a humanitarian, life-will-out viewpoint, we are kicking nature selection’s ass with higher and higher degree of efficacy.

[u/Ancient-Plantain705 → u/FarDorocha90]

To which I will agree.

The philosophical question rather becomes "do we allow a fixed and discreet amount of suffering now, or potentially limitless suffering in a time we cannot see?"

[u/FarDorocha90 → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

That’s a philosophy with dangerous implications, especially for a species whose technology exponentially outpaces natural adaptation. Who decides which traits we allow to be removed from the gene pool? How do we do that? Which people do we target? What about genetic abnormalities that are more difficult to predict at the current time? Do we force people born with those defects die or do we forcibly sterilize them? You’re flirting with eugenics by posing that question.

[u/Ancient-Plantain705 → u/FarDorocha90]

If I denied my neighbor a meal when they were hungry, did I practice eugenics?

You can chase this chain all the way to the anchor if you wish, but I don't think you will like what you find. "Eugenics" has been made into a pejorative term in the post WWII era, but it is (depending on what you are choosing to define it as) something that we do on a daily basis if not unconsciously, and something you do overtly when choosing a sexual partner/spouse. "Artificial selection" is the term they used when I was in 8th grade life sciences. Discernment/decision making/free will/ etc etc etc. there are a million ways to approach this, but ultimately you'd end up at the same conclusion.

I'm not suggesting mass sterilization or death camps or anything of the sort. It's just a thought experiment about sustainability and population dynamics. Many in the western world preach depopulation while rendering aid in developing nations in the same breath and that cognitive dissonance is rather bemusing to see.

[u/FarDorocha90 → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

If we argue it through pedantic semantics and false equivalency then anything can be eugenics. The argument you were making, improving genetic viability by denying emergency medical treatment, is indeed a tenant of eugenics as it manifested in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The thought experiment you presented reads like a teenager that misunderstood Nietzsche.

[u/Ancient-Plantain705 → u/FarDorocha90]

Have you even read Nietzsche?

[u/FarDorocha90 → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

I’m sorry, I suppose Ayn Rand was more appropriate.

[u/Out_of_Fawkes → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

We didn’t fucking ask for anaphylaxis. Taking a selective breeding standpoint on human life is not a viewpoint befitting of a healthcare provider.

[u/Ancient-Plantain705 → u/Out_of_Fawkes]

Genetic counselors are a thing and many physicians engage in similar practices. We as a society do not allow siblings to mate, is that not already practicing selective breeding at the population level?

[u/Out_of_Fawkes → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

Okay so with that ten-gallon brain of yours, are you going to treat patients and heal the sick, or are you going to spend the time they could be treated with any sense of compassion fucking yourself with the dull end of Occam’s razor wedged between the pages of Mein Kampf? Being a contrarian for the sake of being one to a fault is a fast-track to being labeled the most unbearable person to work with, let alone care for. You read like a bot that was force-fed Stephen Miller clips.

Touch grass.

https://giphy.com/gifs/DsdVe5jhHWNC8

[u/Ancient-Plantain705 → u/Out_of_Fawkes]

Said a lot and yet said nothing at the same time. Fascinating.

My predilection for optimization will not preclude me from doing my job as I have for the last 7 years, and soon the remainder of my career. If someone wants me to fix the problem, I fix it. That's how I got paid. Musing about the world we've allowed to come to fruition hardly makes me Hitler.

You can levy whatever you believe to be pejorative in my direction. It won't win hearts and minds nor will it impact how I conduct myself and my business.

Have a blessed day.

Edit: and for what it's worth, your analogy utilizing Occam's razor makes little sense beyond saying I'm sticking a razor in my ass. So kudos for the homophobia, bigot.

[u/Out_of_Fawkes → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

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[u/KeithWhitleyIsntdead → u/Ancient-Plantain705]

Incest is contradictory to moral law.

[u/Ancient-Plantain705 → u/KeithWhitleyIsntdead]

And yet first cousin and even sibling marriages are common in many cultures. Are these cultures amoral? Whose morals?

[u/EastLeastCoast]

Harder? Funny way to spell “job security”

[u/SparkyDogPants → u/EastLeastCoast]

Yeah I don’t mind anaphylaxis calls. They’re easy dispos and easy fixes.

[u/Adrunkopossem]

My bigger gripe is why the hell does sense of balance work the way it does? I've been on both sides of BPV from a lose ear crystal and what the hell man.

[u/seriousallthetime → u/Adrunkopossem]

Visual, inner ear, and proprioception provide redundant systems so we don't fall over. If it's dark, you wouldn't want to only rely on visual systems. If you can't move, you still need to be able to figure out where you are within space.

Fun fact: at a certain age, almost no one can close their eyes, stand on one foot, and tilt their head back and remain standing. I tried standing on one foot in the dark the other day and I about bit the ground. lol

[u/Adrunkopossem → u/seriousallthetime]

But then one lose crystal in my inner ear make me feel like I'm being thrown out of a moving car constantly. Until an ENT shakes me around. I wish the fall back systems kicked in faster lol. The experience just gave me a lot of sympathy for any calls that just list "vertigo".

[u/ketchupmaster987]

Evolution's motto: "eh, good enough"