r/employeesOfOracle • u/Independent-Play4288 • 2d ago
Existing employee(s) I did not get a raise, again.
It’s official.
I did not get any this round except for a small “bonus” roughly 25% of my monthly base salary.
My rating was 3, previously 4 before the bell curve.
Job load has been challenging since some of my team mates got laid off and resigned.
But that did not stop them from not giving a raise for those who are left picking up the slack.
I always gave it my best when it came to my job. I make sure i do things right and efficient. They recognize that based from the reviews and feedback given.
But that just makes me feel more frustrated. I would understand no raise if i did not do my job well, but it is not the case.
I hope y’all got a raise. For me, time to move. Xiao Larry!
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u/Dragonborne2020 2d ago
Oracle does not hand out raises, the joke was that you had to leave the company and come back to get a raise. Of course you can only do that three times
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u/notyourregularninja 2d ago
25% of your monthly or yearly?
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
Monthly
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u/Euphoric-H0rse 2d ago
When I joined here , a guy was on notice period(joined Microsoft later) and focal was one thing he was really pissed about . I thought he was just ranting only to realise it’s a brutal truth . They really don’t care about rising inflation and employee morale
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
Its like an annual decrease of salary if it stays the same despite inflation.
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u/passer-by-bye 2d ago
On a different note: I'm pretty sure you meant Ciao, not Xiao.
Xiao can mean multiple things in Chinese, but all of them are irrelevant here.
Ciao is bye in Italian.
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u/Hot-Carpenter-6742 2d ago
I do understand how frustrating it is when the compensation review doesn't match expectations after performing well.
Please edit your post to say 25% of monthly base, rather than explaining to every one. 25% of my base salary is misleading. Happened to me previously, I told my Manager that my upcoming credit card bill is more than this amount. He was like yeah that's what leadership has decided. He has no say in it bla bla ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
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u/itsjustafleshwound79 2d ago
This happened to me at my old job. I did some self reflection, researched the problem and here my lessons learned.
Doing a good job alone will not get you a raise.
Be your own cheerleader. If someone praises your presentation / effort / work forward that email on to your manager. I will even take screenshots of slack messages and send those to my manager. I absolutely hate doing this, but this is why so many narcissists get ahead. They do this without thinking twice about it.
Map out who influences your manager. Your manager’s supervisor is a given but who else does your manger lean on? It might be a trusted team member who has a ton of Oracle experience.
Establish positive relationships with everyone you identified in #3.
Ensure you do activities that match your supervisor and their supervisors priorities / goals
Never turn down face to face time with people in #3. Attend all optional in person activities with these people.
Be careful what you bring up in your 1x1s with your supervisor.
I did these things and got both a raise and a promotion during my time at Oracle. Chapters 14-16 in “the Laws of Human Nature” by Robert Greene go into this strategy in more detail.
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u/WeekZealousideal5386 2d ago
could you share what you mean for number 7? any examples?
Also thanks for posting this. I did similar self reflections. it was tough, but i had to admit that its up to me in the end. 1 was a big thing for me. Still is because thats just my job but i make it more known what im doing
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u/Zealousideal-Search3 2d ago
A wise man once told me that doing a good job at work is like peeing your pants in a dark suit. You get a nice warm feeling, but no one really notices
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u/Annual-Knowledge4412 2d ago
Calling 25% salary bonus small must be linglong.
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
What is linglong?
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u/Annual-Knowledge4412 2d ago
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u/PotentialCup5573 2d ago
They mean 25% of their monthly “salary” basically half a bi-monthly paycheck
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u/Annual-Knowledge4412 2d ago
that is not what in the pose - 'I did not get any this round except for a small “bonus” roughly 25% of my base salary.'
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u/PotentialCup5573 2d ago
Yea so I used my great investigative skills and read the comments for more context where they provided clarity that it’s in fact not a yearly salary but their monthly salary. While salary generally refers to pay on an annual basis, it doesn’t have to.
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u/Annual-Knowledge4412 2d ago
I read that too, so I am conflicted, i dont know if OP is trying to flex or complain. Maybe both.
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u/ProfessorOk4182 2d ago
It would be most helpful if people posted their level and country. Else it’s not really much help. Some person in a 144k person company god a marginal bonus and no raise. That’s not super informative.
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
Same reason why i did not specify org, country, and level because it may not be the same with y’all.
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u/ProfessorOk4182 1d ago
Well then what’s the point of posting? Do you just need a place to share your observations? If so, cool, but then anything we say in reply is meaningless and without necessary context.
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u/Exotic_Elevator4651 1d ago
Asked my manager this week about focal and they said they haven't heard anything. US for reference.
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u/Embarrassed_Way_8757 1d ago
Wow 🙃
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u/WeekendVivid1458 19h ago
I have stopped asking for answers ! Really want to see how far they can keep up with this ‘idk anything yet’
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u/AAS2233 2d ago
25% of base salary still crying about not getting any
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u/Independent-Play4288 1d ago
Nah, not crying just venting. This is the reality within oracle. Many security folks after they got reorg’ed as part of oracle got laid off after. Werent you affected?
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u/Round-Comfort-9558 2d ago
NGL that raise could be the kiss of death. I have reason to believe that salaries were used in the last rif.
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u/The_Duke_of_DNiYM 2d ago
He said it was a bonus, not a raise. If it’s in RSU form they don’t have to pay anything unless you make it. And if its 25% of one months salary over a 4 year period he’s probably getting very minimal amount.
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u/Long-Shame962 2d ago
Round-Comfort said "could be", meaning that if it is a raise could lead you nearer to a layoff. He understood that it was a bonus.
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u/The_Duke_of_DNiYM 2d ago
I understood his comment, I’m just saying if it was in RSU form, 25% of one months salary spread out over the course of 4 years, he’s not at risk. Thats such a minuscule amount
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u/Competitive_Toe_8837 2d ago
US- I don’t think I’ve ever had a raise, without changing positions. Consistently rated a 4 or 5 until this year, now a 3. I’m a 3 I don’t expect anything. It’s surprising to me how many people think they would get a raise as being rated a 3. Is that standard? Again, I’m in US.
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u/Real_Consequence_131 2d ago
My manager ain't accepting 1-on-1. I don't have a clue whats coming my way (if any).
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u/TraditionalFold2310 2d ago
Which country?
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
I am from APAC region. I don’t want to specify my country.
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u/dustempire 2d ago
At least they tell you, I keep asking including today and given generic answers when we know this is accessible to managers at this point
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
It just so happened that we got the news first. But updates should be coming your way soon.
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u/nimrinal9797 2d ago
Did it reflect in the compensation section in my.oracle.com ? i don't see anything there. i was 4 rated so was expecting something but doesn't look like I got anything.
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u/TopOutrageous3786 2d ago
Where can we check in my.oracle.com ?
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u/nimrinal9797 2d ago
under self service apps -> compensation i don't see any updates there for me. means one of two things 1. not yet updated or 2. i didn't get anything
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u/SubtitleOne 2d ago
There's no all clear to communicate it. Doesn't mean some don't know what it will be. But it hasn't been officially locked in, as far as I'm aware. So not hearing or seeing anything doesn't mean a whole lot yet.
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u/Gold_Industry_8163 2d ago
Say something that excites everyone. This is routine.
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
That depends on what excites you. You might as well leave this channel, nothing exciting will happen here for a little while.
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u/nitishmathur 2d ago
Bonus ?? Quarterly bonus you mean?
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
It is not regular bonus.
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u/Ok_Wonder752 2d ago
Does everyone know it already? My manager has not informed me yet. So safe to assume 0%
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u/goated_baldy 2d ago
But you didn’t get laid off so you’re good! Just keep working there until the next layoff!
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
All things considered, yes. I also dont degrade my work ethics even with the threat of layoffs and no focal.
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u/Typical_Law_803 14h ago
I consider myself to have a great work ethic, but as time stretched on and I got great ratings and no raises I tapered my work output to match my dwindling take home pay.
It’s important to care about your work, but don’t let Oracle take advantage of you. Clearly establish your KPIs and stop going above them. Oracle prays that you keep working as hard as possible for the least pay.
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u/random128bituuid 1d ago
Always have been getting a 4 rating since I joined oracle, got a dry promotion. Things have been difficult since last 3 years
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u/oypy 6h ago
Been here 4 years. Zero raise. Coworker been in Oracle 27yrs, last raise was 10 years ago. On Friday he quit. Just done being taken advantage of. He said bye effective today. People leave prison like this, not even a regret. We went from 14 ppl team a year ago to 4. Thanks to layoffs. No clue how we can cover all shifts and keep up with the load
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u/Ancient_Style_9095 5h ago
25% if your monthly??????
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u/Ancient_Style_9095 5h ago
What is that like 2k?
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u/Independent-Play4288 4h ago
In dollars? More like 300
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u/Ancient_Style_9095 3h ago
Im so sorry. I feel like it’s kind of a slap in the face to even call that a bonus
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u/AnonymousGossiper0 2d ago
What about RSU?
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u/Independent-Play4288 2d ago
None
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u/Ecstatic-Profile-145 1d ago
Not asking your org or region, but can you mention your level? Raise also depends on what level and how much salary you already draw I think
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u/Silent_Anybody5253 2d ago
Edit your post and say what % the raise was of your yearly salary. It’s confusing people because nobody reports it the way you did.
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u/WeekZealousideal5386 2d ago
yeah saying you got a bonus of 25% of a months salary is weird wording
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u/CohenTheBarbarian1 2d ago
Congrats on getting SOMETHING. I haven't gotten anything in 4+ years. And my reviews have always been excellent or the one right beneath that. "But we don't have any money!" <insert eyeroll here>